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This is a story of my never-ending battle with congestive heart failure with my 12-year-old Pomeranian named Precious.  Hopefully by sharing this story it may help you deal with your dogs congestive heart failure.

Precious is  a white Pomeranian that was given to me when she was 6 years old. It seems she was passed around from a few different breeders who decided since she wouldn’t breed they had no use for her. So sad.

At least they gave her a name that fits, she really is precious. Whenever I would take her to the vet he would always say “She is so Precious.” He was even able to clean  her teeth without putting her to sleep since her heart condition would not permit giving her the anesthetic.

She was a great addition to our family. I had another Pomeranian who was much older and I didn’t think he would be around much longer.

Precious was pretty healthy until she turned 12 then it started with a little cough so off we went to the vet. After her examination he said she had a heart murmur and congestive heart failure and needed to be on a diuretic.

I don’t really remember how long the diuretic worked but eventually her coughing returned. On our next visit to the vet he then put her on Enapril.  Like before it worked for a while and then off we went to the vet again.  This time he prescribed Vetmedin along with the Enapril and diuretic and told me to let him know how she does.

I wish I could say that this was the magic combination of medicine and that she didn’t have any more visits to the vets, but it just wasn’t so.  I was there so many times that I no longer had to tell them my name when I checked in.

One time on a weekend she coughed so much I had to take her to the animal emergency clinic. Why do these things always happen at night or on a weekend? They gave her a diuretic shot and some oxygen and we were able to return home after a short while.

They told me to follow-up with my vet and when I did he  increased her diuretic to 2 times a day and  said I could give it as much as 3 times a day if necessary. I wish I had know that before my visit to the emergency clinic.  I really hate taking her there. Not only do you need to take out a mortgage to pay them but I never have any confidence in their ability.

Her next episode of coughing began naturally on another weekend, so I gave her another dose of diuretic and thought I might do some research online.  It was then I discovered that one of the drugs she was taking,  Enapril has a side effect of coughing.

Maybe it was I long shot but I mentioned it to my vet and although I’m pretty sure he didn’t think that was the cause of her coughing he did say I could try not giving her the Enapril.

I didn’t tell him that I already stopped giving it to her after I read the side effects of the drug.  Amazingly she coughed less and it did seem to last quite a while before the coughing returned.

This time when it returned it came back with a vengeance.  She would wake up in the middle of night and cough for what seemed like forever. I felt so helpless knowing there was nothing I could do for her.

I started to think maybe it was time to put her down. When I returned to  the vet I asked him “Isn’t there anything else that I can give her for her coughing, I don’t care if it shortens her life, I think the quality of life is more important.”

I’m think he agreed because he then prescribed hydrocodone for her. Since the majority of her coughing was at night I gave her the hydrocodone before bedtime and this really helped us both sleep. Sure she still coughed but it only lasted a few minutes and she would go back to sleep.

Of course nothing lasts forever and as fate was determined I was to take another trip down the yellow brick road.  I started to feel that the great oz ( my vet) just didn’t have any more magic behind the curtain.

But thankfully I was wrong, he suggested an  x-ray of her heart. I have to admit for a split second I thought what was the point it couldn’t show anything we don’t already know. What it did show was that her heart was only slightly enlarged so maybe her coughing was due to some other problem.

He suggested that we give her shot of predisone (a steroid) and see if that helps her.   He also gave me some predisone pills. I guess the great oz  (no disrespect meant, I really love my vet) had fixed her once again, because her coughing seemed to be under control once more.  At least it was  until the next time.

So now I give her predisone one night the next night I give her hydrocodone. She takes the  Vetmedin, and diuretic twice a day. She also has to take thyroid medicine for low thyroid twice a day. Can you believe all these pills?

This year she will be 15 years old and she still is hanging on. She usually wakes up every night (of course she sleeps in my bed) and has to drink water probably due to the diuretic and steroid and coughs for a few minutes but then is able to go back to sleep.

It’s funny how one problem solved just seems to warp into many others. She recently lost control of her bladder. I began to use a pee pad under her for a while but got tired of washing my bedding almost every night. I then found this cute doggy diaper online. I know there is a medicine that is supposed to help with her loss of bladder control but I just don’t think I can give her any more pills.

If that wasn’t enough problems, recently her seizures have returned. It’s odd she only has one when she gets really excited. That is usually when I leave or come home from somewhere. Whenever I return home, I have to quickly go inside and pick her up to try to keep her from getting too excited.

In the beginning her seizures were short (around 20 seconds) in fact if you never seen a seizure in a dog you probably would not really recognize it as one. Unfortunately,  I’ve seen more than a few with my last Pomeranian who lived to be 17.  Now her seizures have become much worse. She falls down looses consciousness along with loosing control of her bladder.

She has always been a very picky eater but lately she is always hungry. She will eat just about anything I put in front of her.  I suspect Cushing’s disease. Perhaps this is why her seizures have returned.  Seizures seem to have a connection with Cushing’s disease.

I mentioned these latest concerns with my vet and diagnosing and treating Cushings involves more blood work,  possible ultrasound of the adrenal gland and drugs with many side effects. I think we both decided with all her current problems it’s best to hold off and see how she does.

I’m always asking myself if I am being fair to her. Everyone says you will just know when the time comes to put her down, but I just don’t feel it yet.  I can only pray that I am doing the right thing for her.

The following is a picture of Precious in days before congestive heart failure.

 

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386 Responses to “Does Your Dog Suffer From Congestive Heart Failure & Coughing?”

  • Barb Noon says:

    Thank you for posting your story. Such a beautiful dog! My Yorkie is 14 and is on Enapril and Lasix. She also is using puppy pads as she can’t control her bladder when she sleeps. We have upped the Lasix twice so far. It is helpful to see what you tried and read about the results. My mother died from congestive heart failure, so I am sad it is happening to my dog as well. Again, thank you for the information!

    • Sandy says:

      Thank you so much after reading this. I also just was told my midnight had this and kidney problems, and she put him on all this too. But he wouldn’t eat. Today God showed me he’s still in control amen. I am believing for a miracle today and thank you for helping me see its OK. Sandy Nichols

  • kcbird says:

    Good post – my long-haired Chihuahua is in beginning stages of chf – and today she is getting ultrasound of her heart (already had x-ray – enlarged heart very evident). I agree that it is very sad to hear coughing and gagging at night, and know there isn’t anything to do. I sometimes pray that she will just go peacefully in her sleep – but I don’t think that is as common as I think. I am sorry that you, I, and so many others are going through the heartache of our ‘babies’ suffering with chf.

  • Christine says:

    I thank you for taking the time to write your experience living with a dog that has CHF. My dog has been experiencing ALL of the symptoms described above, unfortunately, my vet has not been so direct to me in telling my what my dog is having, although all of my dog’s medication suggest that he has CHF. After reading this article, I’m going to a different vet and tells him what I have suspected all these months.

  • have a 13 yr old scottie with chf and murmur. after this, that and the other thing she is now down to vetmedin – 1/2 pill in morning and half at night. lasix 20mg- in morning and prednisone 5 mg-in morning. There has been no coughing forover a month (start of this program). She leaks once a day while sleeping and I never seem to get the diaper use at the right time, so she gets a back half bath each time. I note there is definite weakness in her hind quarters and she is not always with us mind wise, fairly blind and desperately deaf.But she eats well. I just started to cook her food now and she loves that. I still wonder whether I am during her a favour or me one. I don’t want to go back to the vet as he won’t make that decision for me.
    Thanks to all above for the many replies. I helped me a lot!

    • Sue Huss says:

      So many times when I went to the vet I expected him to say it was time to put her down, but he never attempted to help me make that decision either. I finally made the decision when her coughing was non-stop during the day and he just asked me if I was giving her all her meds? I had to find the courage and just say maybe this is the time to just let her rest. It’s always hard but I think we’ll see each other again. I hope you will also know when the time comes to say good-by to your Scottie.

      • Since I have been cooking her meals she is fantastic. She may now cough once a day and that is a single little cough. She started on Vetmedin on Christmas eve 2012 and I was told by the vet 12 months would be max. The computer tells the same story. Now I wonder, she is doing so well. No I don’texpect a miracle, but am truly happy at how she is now.

        • Shannon says:

          Hi, I have a 10 year old Chihuahua rescue that has been diagnosed with CHF. We’ve only had him 8 months, but I’d like to keep him as healthy and happy as I can for the time he has left. I am interested in cooking for him if that seemed to help you… do you have any balanced recipes that you follow? I’ve been looking on line and it’s so hard to figure out what I should be making to be sure he is getting all the nutrients he needs.

  • Brandon says:

    My dog Buddy has CHF. I just want to make sure he is not in any pain when he is coughing or trying to sleep. The vet said if he is not whimpering or crying then he should not be in any pain. How do I know that to be true though. Buddy is on four kind’s of pill’s most two times a day. He drinks a lot of water, although lately he slowed down a bit. He still eats anything we give him. He will run upstairs or follow us. Just hearing him breath that hard is sad. I want to make sure he is given the best quality we can provide. What would your thoughts be on this? He has seizures as well. The first few were short like what you said, then they last a minute. Then he get’s right back up and act’s like nothing happen. I don’t wan’t to be watching tv laughing at a show while he is coughing or breathing o hard its causing pain, ya know. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Has your vet checked Buddy for low thyroid? After my Precious started taking her thyroid medicine she was seizure free right up until the very end when her coughing became non stop. You didn’t mention what meds Buddy was on? If you think his coughing has gotten worse you might ask your vet for hydrocodone which is a cough suppressant. I’m sorry you’re having to go through this but I’m sure your happy for the time you have left with Buddy.

  • It’s so good to hear from other dog lovers that have this particular problem. I have the diapers but Belle is very adept at getting out of them. She is very good, letting me put them on but I have yet to catch her as she gets out of them. I found that the next best thing to fight the “leaking” problem is Resolve, a stiff brush and the Hoover Steam Vac. We all do the best we can firstly for the comfort of our pet.

  • One small item I forgot to mention but a big one as far as
    Belle is concerned. During that horrible heat spell we had we bought a box fan, in hopes of deflecting some of the a/c cool air into the kitchen. It was situated at an angle at the door way. Belle settled down there, within a foot of the fan and spends at least 90% of her time there. She seems to be less laboured in her breathing. We keep our place very cool so I am sure that is why the heat bothered her so much. Yes, I worried about her 1/2 baths but all seems just fine. Anythibg I can say that helps anyone else also helps me. A side problem that I have is my 4 yr old female cat that loves
    Belle. Belle does not return her affection but Cos never gives up, always very close to her and every so often takes time to let me know how sick Belle is and why don’t I do some thing. I get a good scolding! I love my pets.

    • Pat Nelson says:

      Jane
      Hope you did not get that partial post. My computer has a mind of its own.
      There are many articles about how long average breeds live. We tend to forget this when our old dogs go into heart failure. We always say we do not want them to suffer we just want them to be comfortable. If a dog is wetting at night and the dog has always been potty trained that to me says Please mom let me go with some dignity.
      I am sorry but as much as I love my sweet Scottie I will not put her through this. She is on a water pill now and the vet is pushing for more meds. I cannot decide what to do. I do know this and that is she will live only as long as she can still play with her ball, sleep without peeing in her sleep, enjoy her short walk and not be forced to take meds that really are just prolonging a life that she no longer enjoys. She found her old hiding place that she no longer could get into and somehow managed to get in there and hide. I am sure she is telling me its time, mom, its time. Hope I am not offending you but you asked my opinion and thats how I feel.

      • Di says:

        Hi Pat,

        I know what you mean about the quality of life for our pets. I have a 14 year old pomeranian that I’ve had since he was a puppy. He had been diagnosed with a collapsed trachea but has done well for the last several years on medication. In the last 2 weeks his cough has gotten very bad so we took him to the vet this afternoon.

        The vet told me he had an enlarged heart and it was pressing on his trachea. His liver enzymes were extremely high and the vet thought he might have Cushing’s. Then I asked if he was in pain when he coughed, etc. and she told me that she wasn’t sure but that the tests for Cushing’s were tough on pooches. She’s not sure at this point he even has it but with the heart issue and the cough i just told her I didn’t want to put him through that. I was more concerned about his quality of life and I told her that. She said then you’re probably doing the right thing.

        My pooch is deaf too. Right now he’s a happy little pooch just like he is. He loves to bark when he goes outside and he loves to “talk” to his “brothers”. He also loves to “crow” at us over all kinds of things. BUT, when it comes to be the time to let him go, yes, it will be VERY hard, but I can and will do it. For him.

        • You all seem to have a lot of experience with dogs and chf. I have a 18 year poodle who was rescued from a puppy mill at age 11. She was barely alive. I adopted her and she has been a joy. But she developed CHF and now has a collapsed trachea. She has been on Enalapril, lasix and Tussigon. She still coughs a lot has lost some weight nothing drastic. She still eats, she is deaf and now blind. My question is would it be ethical to stop all her meds except her cough meds and let nature take its course? She has brought me much happiness and I don’t know if at this point I’m doing the right thing. She sleeps all day but as I said will eat try to walk around sometimes. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thank you all. Kelley

  • Shanshine says:

    Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve been up all noght after my 11yo malt kept coughing, it happems to be a public holiday so all vets are closed. I’ll have to monitor and bring him to the vet tomorrow.

    • Sue Huss says:

      If this happens on a weekend when only emergency vets are available, as it always does, you might try increasing his diuretic that’s what my vet told me to do. If you’re like me you hate to go to the emergency vet not just because of their price but I don’t think they are really that competent when it comes to issues like this.

      • Shanshine says:

        Hi Sue,

        How would you know how much to up for the diuretics?

        Anyhow, I got my boy to the vet, and he was given an X-ray, a jab of Frusemide (which he is also taking twice daily) and put in an oxygen cage for an hour. Doc says his dosage of Frusemide is already on the high side (1.4ml twice daily) for his size 4.5kg) so there’s only so much that she can push him up, and the next one would have to be a supplement. She did warn that medicine has also a limit to its efficacy.

        Sigh. His liver is also an issue, with crazy elevated ALT and ALKP. On medication and ihopefully, can be controlled with meds.

        Thanks for sharing!

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi, Thanks for your comment I guess I find sharing my dogs health problems therapeutic because you always discover someone else like you have more problems and you can be grateful you’re only dealing with what you have.
          As far as the dosage of the diuretic I believe it is 1 to 2 mg per pound of dog once or twice a day.
          I believe the third dose my vet recommended would not be a every day thing only when your dog seems to be getting worse like in the middle of the night when your unable to speak with your vet.
          I recently found out that there is another diuretic that works differently that my vet gave a dog whom I was pet sitting for. This dog was on all the other regular meds Enapril, Vetmedin and a recently increased dose of his diuretic, but he had a hard day coughing and when I took him to the vet for his owner he gave him a shot which was a diuretic and another prescription for the diuretic I never heard of. He said it works in another way from the one he had been on. I know this was all just to hold him over for a few weeks because I found out his owner had to put him down today. I guess your vet was trying to find the easiest way to tell you that maybe it’s time to put him down. I know if you’re like me I wanted someone to tell me because I didn’t want the guilt of deciding when it was time, but my vet just would never suggest it. If you’re not sure just come out and ask him what he thinks you should do. Sorry for the long rambling answer but I hope everything works out for you.

  • Allison says:

    Hi Sue,

    Thank you for sharing your story. I have a 9 year old Maltese, Chase, who was diagnosed with severe MV insufficiency this past summer (July 2013). At the time, the vet started him on Vetmedin, Enalapril, and Lasix (12.5 mg once a day). A week in to treatment, his platelet count dropped to 30,000 and he was taken off the enalapril and started on prednisone and carafate. After a week, his platelet count normalized and he was on the road to recovery. Over the course of the next few months, the vet doubled his lasix to 12.5 twice a day and added 12.5 mg Aldactone. Recently, I noticed that Chase was coughing, not breathing as well and was having more activity intolerance than usual. I listened to his lungs (I’m an RN and currently in medical school) and I heard crackles, which of course meant fluid was building up in his lungs. He was also diagnosed with a collapsing trachea and so I gave him several PRN doses torbutrol to help with the cough and to calm his anxiety, but nothing seemed to help. I took him in to see his internal medicine/cardiologist vet this morning and they told me he had gone into full blown heart failure. By the time we made it to the vet, his tongue and gums were blue! I was so devastated. They immediately gave in 40 mg IV Lasix and placed him on Oxygen. At that point, they gave me two options: 1) Put him to sleep or 2)Place him in an oxygen chamber and continue to diurese him with IV lasix until his breathing improves. Well, at this point, #1 was not an option for me b/c before we got to the vet, Chase was running around and barking with my other 2 dogs like nothing was wrong. Of course, it wasn’t like he used to do it when he was a puppy, but he was holding his own with the other dogs. The vet told me that his prognosis with the IV Lasix and Oxygen chamber was good. If we can see him through this, we can increase his Lasix and he will have at least 6 months or longer. Right now, I’m sitting at home and my baby Chase is still at the vet receiving all of his treatments. I’m waiting to hear back from the vet about how he’s doing. The last I heard is that he is starting to “pink up”, but his breathing is not out of the woods yet. I’m so torn up and I just keep crying when I think about it. Sue, I don’t know how remained so strong during when you were going through this with Precious. By the way, I also have a Pomeranian, too. His name is Flash. He’s all black with with a little white streak on his belly :) I’m sorry to have written a book here, but I wanted to thank you again for sharing your story. It has truly been an inspiration to me and is helping me to cope with what I am going through with Chase. Thanks! Allison

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Allison, Your story is the true inspiration, I can’t imagine holding it together after all you’ve been through. On a brighter note my last Pomeranian before Precious lived to be almost 18. I hope your Flash lives a long healthy life. I’ll be thinking about you and Chase and hope your last days together are good.

      • Allison says:

        Hi Sue,

        I am so sorry for taking so long to reply to your response. Things got so hectic with Chase being so sick…I was in the middle of final exams and the holidays were right around the corner. After everything we went through, I had to decompress and by the time things got back to normal, classes were back in session. Anyhow, I wanted to thank you for your sweet words of encouragement during my difficult time. We have had a few ups and downs since Dec, but I am so happy to report that Chase is doing remarkably well now. I am going to respond to Shirley Hart’s post and detail the medical and holistic protocol that I have Chase following.

        Allison

        • missy says:

          I have an 18 yr old Maltese that means the world to me. Taking all of the above. Heartbroken any holistic help would be much appreciated!!!

    • Peta Bray says:

      Hi Allison,
      I’ve been reading all that you have written about Chase, and I have a 13 year old Bichon who has the same problem.
      Please would you be kind enough to send me the PDF of the natural meds he is on and also the food that you cook him.
      We have just lost our cockapoo due to an infection that consumed her body, and it was heartbreaking. I do not want to lose Baxter, our Bichon too.
      Thanks so much for posting your story.
      God Bless –
      Peta Bray

      • RICK says:

        hello Peta Bray,
        I just wanted to say that I have a 17 year old Chihuahua tha is going thru severe coughing and my vet put her on Lasix and she hasnst coughed in 4 days since start of Lasix. I was hoping you would send me a copy of that diet the other lady cooks for her precious?

        Sincerely
        Rick

  • Cher says:

    my 11 yr old toy poodle shitzu mix …6 pds was diag w chf in october. her coughing is most severe when sleeping or when dad or mom come home from work. she is on furosemide 3x a day .6mg and 1mg of liquid pimobendan 1x day ….question i see mention of a steroid being given. i know the pimobendan is an appetite suppressor so we hv added 1\4 of .5mg pred to her food. that is helping here eat now..not by dr. script’ but hv our other dog taken it daily for past 3 years. so we hv it on hand.
    scared…not sure of proper course to take w her….she pee’d today on the couch, she looks sad …. and tht makes us equally sad.
    i know nothing can be done i just felt the need to write…

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi, I’m glad you wrote. It seems so many pet owners are going through the same problems with CHF. Pimobendan the generic form of Vetmedin is what my Precious was on also. It’s not really an appetite suppressant but the side effects can be nausea, diarrhea and loss of appetite. I personally wouldn’t give a steroid to increase her appetite because steroids have their own set of side effects including increased thirst and suppressing their immune system which is why maybe she peed on your couch. Why don’t you try real food to get her to eat, if that doesn’t work just tell your Vet that Pimobendan is not something you want to continue with because of it’s side effects. Perhaps he can suggest lowering the dose and see if that works.
      If her coughing at night gets too bad don’t be afraid to ask your vet for a cough suppressant to give her a better quality of life while she is still here. My vet gave my Precious hydrocodone but not until I insisted she must have something. Precious never peed on my couch but she would frequently be incontinent because of the diuretics. I used a pee pad and towel on the couch where she always slept during the day and a doggie cloth diaper at night because she slept with me. I hope this helps.

  • sandi davidson says:

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Buster my ten year old Boston Terrier was just diagnosed with CHF. Aside from the diuretic and en April he is also on an antibiotic for an upper – respiratory infection. He started his meds last Thursday and I have seen zero improvement. I don’t know what to expect since it’s been a few short days. His vet believes the prognosis is good, which makes me cautiously optimistic. My biggest concern right now is getting him to eat. Forget dog food, he even turns away from doggy treats including freeze dried chicken and yummy duck jerky. At first I cooked rice and chicken. That worked once. Then hamburger and rice. Again worked once. Moved on to steak, which he accepted hand fed a few times. Now nothing. I’m at my wits end. I wonder if anyone else experienced appetite loss with any of the meds? I’ll call the vet tomorrow to see if a steroid shot is advisable.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Sandi,
      Thank you for your comment. I was wondering what was the vet’s reason for your Buster’s lack of appetite.
      My Precious had no problem eating more than usual. I don’t know if any CHF drugs cause a loss of appetite. Could he have another problem for appetite loss such as low thyroid, dental problems, or even more serious health problems like kidney failure, liver problenms or cancer? I think a steroid might help temporarily but it’s just masking the real problem of his lack of appetite. It’s possible your vet seeing your concern over Buster’s CHF didn’t want to alarm you with the possibility of any other health problems. I hope you and your vet can find out the reason for his appetite loss. I hope you will let me know.

      • sandi davidson says:

        Hi Sue,
        Eventually Buster did get his appetite back and we had three months of him being his normal self before he took a turn for the worse very dramatically and suddenly. We took him to the vet, where he stayed for several days. One morning we were called to be told he had passed in the night. Heartbreaking.

        • Sue Huss says:

          It’s sad he couldn’t die at home but perhaps Buster felt that it would be easier on you this way. I’m so happy you had 3 good months with him before he got worse, I’m sorry it couldn’t have been longer. Blessings to you.

  • jennifer says:

    your story hit home with me. my 11 year old chihuahua has chf and was diagnosed 2 months ago. at first the vetmedin and lasix worked like a charm — then the coughing started. now she has steriods and the cough medicine plus the other two. you story is so similar to mine. my ferret is also in chf and adrenal gland disease and was diagnosed 6 months ago and has no true signs of either too often.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Jennifer,
      You didn’t mention if your chihuahua was on Enapril also. You might want to try eliminating that drug if it is O.K. with your vet and see if the coughing improves for a while. It worked for me, but like everything else it was just a temporary fix. I hope your last days with her are good.

      • jennifer says:

        no she isnt on that medicine. the only thing they added was a steriod for a week to help with inflammation. she goes back on wed to see if there is any progress

  • Shirley Hart says:

    Just wanted to say I am going through the same thing with my little yorkie “tiki” – she has had this for about 2 years — they have her on vetmedin and Lasix — but she is coughing most of the time. She will not take her meds – I have to force them down her –morning and night — she has swelling etc. She has no problem eating but I do notice her not breathing to well at times. I am afraid to almost pick her up because I am afraid she can’t breathe with any pressure on her. Do you think the vetmedin is making her cough more? I hate to take her to the vets because she gets so upset that the last time she passed out. It just kills me to see her like this. I am not sure what to do. Have any of you tried natural herbs to help? Are they a waste of money. The vets just want to push more pills and more tests and like I said she can’t take that. I just don’t think I can put her down but then again I do not want her to suffer. This is so hard. Friends that come around and hear her coughing want to pick her up and pet her and I am like – that won’t help, just makes her worse . You just feel helpless. well thanks for listening!

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi, From what I read the most reported side effects of Vetmedin are poor appetite, lethargy, diarrhea, dyspnea, and weakness. The Vetmedin is such a large pill it was hard to give even a half of a pill to my dog also. I broke it down into two smaller pieces and put it in braunschweiger. If you’ve never heard of it is a sticky meat composed of liver and pork, you can find it by the lunchmeat. I’ve never found a dog who doesn’t love it.
      The trick is put a small piece of pill into a small piece of meat. If the piece of meat is to big your dog will have to chew it and usually ends up spitting the pill out. They are so clever aren’t they. It the meat is a small piece they will gobble it up with hardly a second thought, especially if you already let them try it and they liked it. Hope this works for getting her pills down.
      I have tried natural products but I’m not sure if it made any difference perhaps it gave her a little longer to live it’s hard to say. I agree picking your dog up just puts pressure on her lungs and possibly make the coughing worse. If she is coughing continuously I think maybe you should ask your vet if he thinks it is time to put her down, I know it is a terrible decision to make on your own and I don’t think vets will bring the topic up first. I hope you can find the courage to make the right decision, it’s so hard parting with our canine children many people just don’t understand.

      • Mary DiDia says:

        Peanut butter with 1/2 vetmedin works fine with my dog. He licks it off my finger and just swallows it. So easy!

    • Allison says:

      Hi Shirley,

      I posted back on Dec 3, 2013, when my Maltese, Chase, had an acute decompensation episode with his heart failure. If you have a minute, you can take a look at my post. At the time, Chase was extremely sick as he was in severe pulmonary edema (he was literally drowning internally due to the excessive fluid inside of his lungs). He was kept overnight in the ICU part of the ER. During his stay, he received over 300 mg of IV Lasix and had to spend 12 hrs in the oxygen chamber.

      When I was finally able to take him home, he was better, but he was still walking a fine line b/c he still had some fluid in his right lung. I am an RN and also I’m currently in medical school so I have extensive medical training. I am able to listen to Chase’s lungs with my stethoscope and the vet was comfortable with my titrating Chase’s Lasix until his lungs were clear (meaning I could hear no fluid with my stethoscope). For about a week, I listened to Chase’s lungs before every dose of Lasix (he was taking 20 mg BID [twice a day). If I heard fluid, I would increase his dose of Lasix. After the 1st week of him being home, I had increased his Lasix from 25 mg daily (12.5mg in the AM and 12.5 mg in the PM) to 72.5 mg daily (40 mg in the AM and 32.5 mg in the PM). The vet has also increased his Vetmedin from 1.25 mg BID to 2.85 mg BID and his Spironolactone from 6.25 mg BID to 12.5 mg BID. Despite my increasing his Lasix and the increase in all of his other medication doses, he still had fluid in his right lung! Although he was asymptomatic, I was beside myself because I knew that the residual fluid in his right lung was not a good sign bc it meant that he could decompensate and we would be back to square and in the ICU/ER again.

      I researched and read studies about dogs with heart failure. I wanted to make sure we weren’t missing anything with his medical treatment. I learned that we had all of the medical bases covered so I then started researching holistic and complementary therapies for dogs with heart failure (HF). I worked as an RN in cardiology for several years and one thing I know is that diet is critical with HF patients, especially salt intake. I spoke with my vet about it and she didn’t think that changing his diet would make much of a difference (he was eating Blue Buffalo- Salmon and Sweet potato formula). The medical treatment that animals receives strongly parallels human treatments so it made sense to me that if changing a human’s diet can lead to health improvement, it should be true for a dog.

      In my research about homemade dog food, I learned that dog food manufacturers aren’t required by law to report the amount of sodium in there food. However, you can get this info by contacting the company directly. A dog with severe heart failure should not consume more than 20 mg of sodium per day. Most commercial dog foods exceed this 5-10 fold! Also, I want to bring up another point. I have a hard time giving Chase his pills so I would coat them in peanut butter. 2 TBSP of peanut butter contains about 160 mg of sodium. I was giving about 1 tsp with his pills twice a day, which worked out to be about 50 mg sodium. The is more than double the amt of sodium he should have per day and that didn’t even include the sodium in his commercial dog food. A super bright light bulb went off and I knew that I had to have 100% control over his food.

      I started making his food myself. Dr. Becker’s Real Food for Healthy Dogs and Cats“>When making these recipes, you have to add a supplement so I added Dinovite and Lickochops. As far his pill delivery, I don’t like to mix it in with his food b/c I want to ensure he take all of it. I bought a pill crusher and I crush all of his meds into a fine powder. I either mix the powder with a little bland baby food, a tsp of the lickochops, or a little of his homemade food and we haven’t had any issues.

      Chase’s HF is due to severe mitral valve insufficiency (MVI) so focused on therapies that were directed toward MVI. This is the following holistic protocol I have him on:

      -Ubiquinol Ubiquinol for Pets (Enhanced Bioactivity Coq10 for Cats and Dogs)
      Ubiquinol strengthens the pumping action of the heart- we call it the EF)
      -Krill Oil
      Krill Oil for Pets 3.92 fl oz Liquid

      -Vitamin E drops (dogs with HF have been shown to be deficient in Vit E)Pet Vitamins Supplements for Dogs - Promotes Good Health - Can Help Strengthen The Dog Immune System - Also Contains Glutamic Acid and Arginine

      -Arginine, GPLC-Carnitine, and Taurine (these are all amino acids that have been found to be deficient in dogs with HF. Arginine is thought to help with activity intolerance and shortness of breath. I have the powdered form of Arginine and Taurine, but I have to crush the Carnitine).
      -DRibose: This has been shown to specifically improve the strength of the heart in dogs with HF due to MVI. Comes in a powder
      -B Complex: Another deficiency seen in dogs with CHF
      -Hawthorne Berry and Red Clover:
      Animal Apawthecary Hawthorn Plus Blend Dog Cat Herbal Remedy 2 oz
      I am using these herbs is used for their diuretic effects.

      I think that's pretty much it for the holistic protocol, but if I realize I left something out I'll let you know.

      Ok...now, for the great news. After being on homemade food and the holistic protocol for 1 month, Chase was a completely different dog. The months leading up to his diagnosis and he literally looked depressed. When he started his initial treatment, he didn't seem as depressed and lethargic, but he wasn't the playful, energetic, happy-go-lucky dog that he used to be. I took Chase in for his follow up. After starting my holistic protocol, Chase was full of energy and running around like a puppy and his lungs were COMPLETELY clear!!! I was so pleased and I couldn't wait to go back for our 1 month follow up with the vet.

      The vet could not believe her eyes when she saw Chase. She said she had never seen him looking this full of life since she started treating him. She took him back to run labs and do a follow up echocardiogram and she came back with phenomenal news. All of his blood work was perfect, but I have even better news! The size of his Left atrium has decrease 2 mm from his baseline measurement when he was first diagnosed in July 2013. His dilated left atrium was decreasing in size and his heart function was starting to show improvement! She was happy and shocked at the same time! She just told me to keep doing everything that I was doing, lol! It's been 2 months since that last visit and we have another follow up tomorrow so I will definitely keep you posted.

      I'm so sorry for writing a book, but I just hope that some of this information is helpful. I know exactly where you are b/c I was at that place 3 months ago. My heart goes out to you and Tiki <3. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I will try to give you as much info as I can.

      Allison

      • Shanshine says:

        Wow Allison, your post has been greatly informative. My dog has been on homecooked food + kibbles all along. After he came down with CHF, I added in supplements, but only those that my vet ‘gave’ the okay for, based on what she knows as medically, she cannot attest to the efficacy of alternate/holistic medicine which I would be more keen to pursue.

        Since the one episode of having breathing issues in Nov 2013 (he was diagnosed in Apr 2013), there has been one other recurrence on Valentine’s Day this year and he is on increased dosage of Frusemide and added in a second diuretic, Spironolactone. Since then, incidence of him coughing has reduced significantly, but he has started wheezing, owing to a second condition that has developed; canine bronchial disease, which is quite similar to asthma in human. Oral medications are out as it would worsen his heart condition, and he is currently on antibiotics and if it gets worse, he may have to be on Ventolin.

      • Beth says:

        Can you please tell me how much of each holistic supplements u give your dog please and post where u buy them from!! Thank u so much!!

      • Ruth says:

        Howdy is a 16.5 year old maltese mini size. He has a heart murmur and cushings disease. I too started cooking him his own meals months ago. It made a huge difference. I just stick chicken breast, a piece of liver (for flavor eventhough high in cholesterol) can of pumpkin, brown rice and water in the crock pot. When done, I run it through the food grinder. At first he didn’t like it so I sprinkled some fresh cooked hamburger on top. It made a huge difference with the coughing but now the coughing has returned. Of course, this always happens on the weekends! I have him on 2 Pimobenden per day + 20 mg. Lasix. I started him on Amoxil yesterday to prevent pneumonia. I know he needs a shot of prednisone but taking him to the vet is so stressful on him. His tongue gets purple. Right now, his tongue and gums are a great shade of pink! Any suggestions for him until the vet opens in the morning? I have Prednisone here but with his Cushings, I am reluctant to give it to him. Thanks. Ruth

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Ruth, While I hate to give any advise when it could be wrong but I can tell you what my vet told me that it would have been OK to give my Precious another dose of her diuretic, this it what the emergency clinic gave my Precious a shot of Lasix and oxygen. They tried to keep her overnight but I said no she needs to be with me.
          I guess it all comes down to Howdy’s weight and when you gave it to him last. I now how you feel it always happens on weekends and nights. Why don’t you call the emergency clinic and tell them you are unable to come for whatever reason and ask to speak to their vet for some advice. Then next time your at your vet ask him what you can give Howdy if it happens again on a weekend (because you know it will), perhaps he can give you a prescription for hydrocodone also which suppresses cough. I know it is frustrating and a never ending battle with drugs that only work temporarily. Good Luck

      • Laura says:

        Hi Allison: I too have a 10 lb. maltese with Advanced Heart Disease/CHF. I was hoping you could send me your holistic regiment and dosage information. I’d like to give it a try. He is on Lasix 2 pills/2x day, Vetmedin and Enalapril. Along with hydrocodone at night.

      • Lisa says:

        Thank you. I’ve been looking for a natural treatment for my little Teddy. Teddy is 10 lbs.. I have ordered everything on your list. could you email me the dosage for 10 lbs. dog?

      • Lisa says:

        Hi Allison, It been several years since you posted this and while you probably won’t see this i wanted to ask just in case there was a chance. My 14 yr old Jack Russell has CHF and I too have been making her food and started supplementing with the EXACT same meds you have listed. I couldn’t believe your post when I saw it!! I was so worried that I might be hurting her and not helping her (even though she seems better, less coughing). I”m trying to get her off the lasix completely as she had bad kidney labs. Not sure how much of the Hawthorne / Red clover to give her. I also give dandelion. I am a little worried about the dosage of the L carnitine/taurine/arginine as well. Could you tell me how much per day? Thank you so much for your post!!

      • Ann Fosnacht says:

        Thank your for such an indepth article on CHF. It will help me (and others) tremendously.

      • Rachel says:

        Hi Allison, I saw your post on your successful holistic approach for Chase. As my maltese has enlarged heart and coughing, would you pls share with me yr holistic protocols and dosage? Also, do you still continue with the vet’s medicine while on the holistic items? My email address is hsl_rachel@yahoo.com.sg. Thanksso much.

      • laurie LADNER says:

        hi…when you started giving your dog these supplements did you take it off of the meds?, or did you continue giving it in addition ?
        Please let me know…thank you.
        laurie

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Laurie, not sure if your question is for me or other people who have commented. I don’t hink taking your dog off her heart medication is a good idea. Supplements given are not a cure just a way to help your dog live a longer healthier life.

  • Sue says:

    CHF stinks!!! My Eli is about 11, not sure of his exact age because I adopted him from a shelter. Best dog ever. Diagnosed with CHF 7 months ago. I was told statistically 50% of dogs live 6-12 months longer after diagnosis. It was a wait and see to see what 50% he fell into. Well, he’s at the Animal Emergency Hospital right now and will be there for at least the next 12 hours, IV Lasix and oxygen tank. Respiratory rate is 60 (normal is around 20). He was coughing and coughing for some reason and would cough up foam. I gave him another dose of his Lasix but after 2 hours took him to the hospital. Had to put down a deposit and it was over $1000. Money was never an object with my furkids (not that I make a lot), but I’ll worry about how to pay for it later. I am now struggling with the thought of even if he rebounds, when will be the next time. What about when I’m at work and he’s crated, what if he starts the non-stop coughing when I’m gone and he’s suffering for hours and hours and I’m oblivious at work? As CHF progresses it will be more trips to the vet (hopefully not the emergency vet!) and increase in meds which means more thirst, urination, lethargy, weight loss….is that really quality of life for my doggy soul mate?? I don’t know. Guess I’ll know more in the morning. But now just reminding myself to not redefine what a “good day” is (in terms of Eli’s days) and his quality of life, not unfortunately longevity, is what matters most. Hard to not use those interchangeably…

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m sorry Eli is doing so bad. When Precious started coughing non stop during the day, that was when I decided it was just too much for her. It’s so hard to make that decision so I hope you have the strength to make yours since it sounds like you’ve done so much for Eli already.

  • Shirley Hart says:

    Thanks for your reply Sue, and you may be right – It might be time to let her go which breaks my heart, but I can tell she has trouble breathing some days. She might have a day or so of not coughing most of the day, but then the next day she is right back to it. She is worse when she is around me because she is so attached to me and gets more excited when I talk to her, etc. I just told my husband today that by the time her next refill is due on her meds., (she has been taking these meds for about 2 years) that if she is still coughing and kinda gasping for air at times, that I am going to have to make that decision. Thanks for your post, it lets us know we are not alone in this.

  • Shirley Hart says:

    I meant to check the box to notify me of follow up and forgot so that is the reason for this post!

    • Shirley Hart says:

      Gosh, thanks Allison for the report on your dog. I know that dog food that we buy is bad, I try to buy the organic – natural stuff – but you never know. I am going to try making her food and the supplements you talked about. She is so sweet and gentle to everyone, she is a perfect little yorkie – she holds her ears up and she is very tiny (Which I think might have been her downfall – being so small). She is not doing well at all the last couple of days — coughing, etc. I am going back to your post and look at those cooking ideas and see what I can do. Glad your little doggie is doing well and congrats on going to medical school – sounds like you will be the type of Dr. that we need. Maybe you should become a vet., yep you would be great. Thank you very much for your concern. Shirley

  • Karen says:

    Sue I read your article with tears in my eyes-I have a 13 year Boston that is my old girl and I love her so much. It started with a cough and off to the vet we went. He tells me she has a heart murmur and put her on benzapril for the murmur and furosemide for the fluid build up-she has been on it for about a week now and the cough seems to be worse not better-I am off to the vet again tomo-I am going to have him xray her heart and some other things to cover my basis-I do know that this is the start of end which according to him is still 3 to 4 years but I feel so helpless and like I am not doing enough to make her comfortable-Thanks for this article I am glad I found it

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Karen, I feel your pain I hope you can have a little longer cough-free time with your girl. I know every case is different but I think maybe your vet is stretching the facts a little when he says that the end is 3 or 4 years away. That would make her 17 years old which is usually the age that healthy small dogs live until. I’m not saying this to upset you but only so you don’t end up thinking you did something wrong.

  • Miri says:

    Hi Sue

    I have a chihuahua furkid called Akie. He is 13 yrs old and he has been diagnosed with CHF stage 3 recently. Aparts of this he also having trachea collapsing which contribute to his coughing daily. I have been in and out to the vet quite often recently and nothing seems to ease his coughing.. His coughing is getting worst. Apparently, he is having Fortekor, Vetmedin and Furosemide for his heart enlargement. As for his coughing, he have to take Codeine, Butorphanol Injection and Pentosan Injection. I feel so depress whenever he is coughing… Nothing I can’t help to make him feel better…
    I am still working very hard and hope that he could be better because I really don’t want and couldn’t let go of him.. I know he is suffering and I don’t want him to suffer too… But I really couldn’t take it anymore…

    He has been diagnosed with heart enlargement 3 yrs ago, during that time he has been hospitalized but he recovered… I have been maintaining him by all the medication in correct timing each day, low sodium diet and no strenuous activities. Apart of all the medications, he is also been taking Taurine, CoQ10, Hawthorne, Omega Fish Oil and etc supplements… I really have no idea where goes wrong recently… I just wish n hope that he will speedy recovery the soonest. The vet just told me that if I would have him for another 6 to 12 months… He should consider that I am extremely happy and lucky…

    Love,
    Miri

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Miri,
      It sounds like your blaming yourself for him not getting better. Perhaps it’s just time for him to go. Maybe if you believe in reincarnation like myself you can take comfort in knowing that he may possibly come back to you, if not in this life maybe the next.

  • Laura says:

    Hello Everyone,

    I’m so grateful to have found this site. I’ve read everyone’s story and the love that is evident for all of the pups is palpable. I thought I’d share my story as well just to add to the pool of support.

    My little TatorTot is a poodle/min pin mix. Crazy cute! She is currently 15 and a half years old and acts like a puppy. She has been diagnosed with collapsing trachea and CHF. The official diagnosis for CT was about 6 yrs ago and CHF was about a year and half ago. I kicked into high gear as things unfolded and so Tatie has a cardiologist, a general practitioner, a holistic vet and an energy worker. Like so many of you I feel as though I should be doing MORE and I often feel guilty when I balance her healthcare with my wallet. I haven’t curtailed any treatment for her yet, but my cash flow is not unlimited!

    She never needed any treatment for CT. It has progressed and since there’s such a fine-tuned balance between the respiratory system and cardiac system, when one progresses it effects the other. Since her CHF diagnosis, she’s been on Pimobendan, enacard (enalapril), furosemide, and amlodipine. None of these meds dosages have needed to be changed since her original diagnosis. She sees her cardio three times a year and he does diagnostics every other visit (blood work, xray and sonogram if needed). Tatie’s heart actually diminished in size a bit as of last August. I was thrilled. I realize, however, that these conditions continue to change and new plateaus are reached which is hard to adjust to, but like so many of you mentioned, we adjust until we KNOW we can’t (they can’t) any longer. Ugh. Don’t want to think about that right now….

    As I mentioned, Tatie sees a holistic vet as well. She takes 4 Chinese herbs for cardiac/lung support, and is on 9 supplements that I mix into her food. (Standard Process brand). The supplements are designed for cardiac/pulmonary support plus whole body support, arthritis support, etc. In addition, she received cold laser treatments for heart/lung every 10 days-2 wks. Every month or two she also receives acupuncture or chiropractic in addition to the cold laser treatments. I cook for her- beef and chicken boiled, a little broccoli and pasta, and no sodium. She weighs about 8 lbs and has been on a wonderful plateau for some time now.

    Last week, her hacking/coughing (and that ‘honking’ sound associated with CT) increased after the excitement of her having a bath. She could not get out of the loop. It was awful…a HUGE sound, very guttural, coming from a little dog. I took her to her cardio the very next day. He thought either the bath excitement triggered her or perhaps she aspirated a little water. I’d been resistant to starting her on hydrocodone as a cough/hack suppressant (she coughs/hacks after drinking and grooming herself) but after last week, I relented. So between Thursday and today, I’m playing the hydrocodone game: trying to figure out the best dosage to suppress her cough without too much of a sedative effect. It’s hard. But today I think I’m onto something. Interestingly, even though I ask a lot of questions and thought I had a handle on this drug, I didn’t ask if it has any ‘build up’ effect…..because I’ve only had to dose her once today as opposed to the many doses of the last few days.

    The issue today is that her belly is off…so now she’s in another loop: the hydro has suppressed her cough and I believe upset her stomach. What a trade off. So she needs to eat to handle the effects of a drug that upsets her belly! So unsure how it’s all going to go as tonight unfolds and we get into tomorrow (and someone mentioned how these things always happen on weekends or at night)but we’ll see. My concern is that when it comes time to give her her next dosage of meds (the cardiac/BP meds and/or more hydro) it’ll upset her stomach further. I don’t want to skip a dosage of anything.

    I should also mention that I get her meds compounded. It can be very expensive, but it ensures she’ll get the meds even if she doesn’t feel like eating or taking a pill. I nearly fainted upon getting the hydro compounded- 30 mls is $145. God…..but, as long as I can do this for my girl, I will.

    I mentioned that I also have an energy worker/healer work with her. She does distance healings and I’ve found them to be wonderful and so helpful. For anyone interested, the healer’s name is Ginger Krantz and her website is: http://www.earthhorsehealing.com. It’s a great supportive therapy.

    And so I go forth- one step at a time with Tatie. I try to really “listen” to her and her needs. It’s so easy to make this all about me because I love her so much, but I want HER to call the shots. Oh, and someone mentioned something I deal with as well: when I show her affection, it can get her coughing. It’s so hard to want to comfort your dog but in trying to do so, be the cause of the problem. Catch 22…

    Thank you all so much for posting you own stories. Support is so key to dealing with these difficult conditions.

    Thank you,
    Laura

  • Ruth says:

    My maltese “Howdy” turned 16 in Nov. He has had CHF for over 2 years starting with massive seizures. He is on pimobenden and after reading all these posts, I have added the Enepril also (which I had here on hand from Fluppy). He takes 20 mg. Lasix per day but vet told me NOT to increase this dose since it can damage kidneys. He coughed all night and wheezed. So sad to listen to. He got up and walked around many times, probably for water. He is on cough suppressents and also has had steroid injections. He also has Cushings Disease. Howdy is a medium sized Maltese and the largest one I have. He is just a happy go lucky kind of dog, never a problem. I am going to start cooking his food too. I give him his meds in Liverwurst but now reading the posts about SALT, going to change that plan too…Looks like I will be making my own liverwurst too! Thanks for sharing all.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Ruth, I’m not convinced with all of Howdy’s conditions that such a small amount of Liverwurst for his pills should worry you, but you certainly should use your best judgement.

  • Peter says:

    Hi All,
    I have read your stories and feel mine may be of use.
    My dog was a rescue dog from Spain a small honey coloured terrier. I homed her 7 years ago when she was roughly about 4 years old then.she came to me with a cough after drinking water. I had her screened two years ago when we were coming back to the Uk and the vet diagnosed a heart murmur. She was well and happy up to last Easter Monday when her resting respiratory rate was 70, coughing on exertion and she was breathing using her abdominal muscles, very lethargic and mucous membranes not pink at all. I went to the emergency vet and she diagnosed a grossly enlarged heart and CHF. After treating with diuretics and cardisure she was released after 3 hours. She made a slow recovery on these meds but this morning she vomited 3 times loosing bile and frothy fluid she then drank three full bowls of water and her breathing was 60 per minute with blueish mucous membranes. I went to the vet who gave me the choice of aggressive treatment or euthanasia.i could not bear the distress she was goingthroughand chose the latter. I am now very sad but glad she did not have to live with this condition over a longtime. She was a much loved dog but I could not stay with her I did see her shortly afterwards and she was at peace. It was a very tough decision but one which has to be taken bearing in mind the suffering of the dog. I hope if anyone reads this they will find some strength to make the hardest decision of all.
    Peter

  • Ruth says:

    Howdy is doing MUCH better. He is even lively and wagging! I did notice that once again, he is starting to EAT DIRT outside. THis comes from the LASIX and dogs know what they need! He is a maltese, 16.5 years old and 9.2 poundsl not a toy but a mini maltese. Poor guy is bowlegged too! I bought him in Kansas from a home breeder. He’s just a good old, dog and so friendly. His coughing has greatly reduced using the small amount of Hycodan twice a day with the Pimobenden, Lasix and Vetrol for his Cushings Disease. He’s a happy boy. I also have CEASED feeding him ANY dog food or people food with salt in it which has helped so much. I boil his chicken with rice in the rice cooker with some garlic powder. I add doggie vitamins and he is just thrilled with his meal! He turned a HUGE corner which I was dreading and instead out of no where, my other “son” Lil Bit, had a massive convulsion (age 15) followed by a RUSH to the vet to find out he had no platletes. God must have needed my precious baby boy because I had to send him to heaven the next day. The vet does not know what was causing it, but he was bleeding internally somewhere, possibly from the Previcox he took daily for his deteriorated spine. I miss him every second but when you love someone so much, you have to let them go instead of suffering. RIP Lil’ Bit.

  • Linda says:

    My little boy (Banjo – 13) has CHF and he is also being treated with Lasix and Vetmedin (at least two years). He coughs a lot and I wonder if I’m doing the right thing by keeping him around. Although he still eats and loves his treats. It makes me so
    sad to see/hear him cough and cough. It isn’t all the time but it’s often enough to make me wonder what I should do. I have had to make that dreaded decision many times and it gets no easier.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I think we all can sympathize with what your dealing with. I have to say my Precious coughed a lot also but all at once the cough got deeper and pretty much non-stop. I think you’ll know when it’s time. Have you tried hydro codone to help suppress some of the coughing?

  • Bonnie says:

    My KC is 19+ & has CHF. She has been doing amazingly well thinks to the medications she has been on. The last two days the cough has increased. She has not been to the vet for a while, so maybe we will go for a visit this morning. The coughing makes sleep difficult for both of us.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Wow, I have to say you are lucky that your dog has lived to her age of 19. I hope she lives even longer.

      • Bonnie says:

        So sorry to report that I lost my precious little girl May 7, 2014. I am having a terrible time adjusting to the loss. A true companion who was at my side, on my lap, or in my bed for 19 + years. I miss her terribly. I realize I was lucky to have her for so long, but it doesn’t make the loss any less bearable. I am thinkful that she passed at home and in the arms of those who loved her.

    • Joann says:

      My dog has chf, she is 13. She coughs more at nite. Started on lasiz for about a week, cough continued. Will take the Vets advice for heart medication and I guess return to the lasiz also. She was on 40 mg a day, heart meds scare me because iam unsure of what might happen. She cough an gags . What medication did you have you dog on, that she lived to be amazingly 19 yrs old?? Iam beside my self of what to do. If not for the cough my dog Cindy is fine. Plays runs around eats like a horse. Please give me an insight into the medications or combination of meds. That work. So I will be knowledgable when I talk to my Vet. We will be devastated to loose her. What to save my dog, need to help her so bad, just breaks my heart to hear her cough so much. And i cant do anything.Thank you so very much.

      • Sue Huss says:

        Hi Joann,
        I don’t know of any dogs with CHF who lived to be 19, my Precious only lived to be 14. I think the heart meds most likely kept her live a little longer so I wouldn’t let that scare you too much. Mostly your vet will start with one or two drugs and as time goes by and her coughing gets worse as it usually does they add more drugs. Just because my dog had trouble with one drug your dog may be fine, it’s always a trial and error thing. Your veterinarian should know what’s best for her. God bless.

  • jen says:

    Thank you for sharing precious’ story. I am going through a similar situation but my babies heart is enlarged quite a bit. It seems they say the coughing is normal but maybe its worse with enalipril I’ll bring it up to my vet. You would think with the advances we have in medicine there was more they could do.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I have to say when I wrote this article I never dreamed it would connect with so many other pet lovers.

      • Jill says:

        It’s 330am, and I can’t stop reading these posts. My point Sammy was a rescue, but if I had to guess he is probably 12. CHF. diagnosed 7 months ago. He has had a cough since about 10 years ago, I thought crushed trac., turns out not. Only CHF, he’s only on Vet me den and Enalipril. He has been passing out(sort of seizure) but not, lasts for 2-10 seconds and then he’s up. And almost like both nothing happened. ..this also happens when he had a sneezing fit (also very strange, has since pup). I just hope he keeps ticking because although he intentionally posses everywhere in spite, I really adore him. So do my two boxers-who he chooses to not acknowledge(he’s more a people person).

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Jill, what you described are seizures. My Precious had the same thing and as time went on they did get worse. Eventually the vet determined she had low thyroid ( a possible cause of seizures) and was started on thyroid medicine. I wrote a post about seizures that might interest you or others who are not sure if their dog is having seizures. Sammy is lucky to have you. Blessings to you both.

  • Omar says:

    Hi Sue,

    Thanks so much for sharing your story. My cockerspaniel Carter which i’ve had for 9 years was recently diagnosed with a stage 4 heart murmor. He was initially diagnosed back in November as stage 2, and in May stage 3. Two weeks after receiving the stage 3 diagnosis he quickly went to a stage 4 and the cardiologist began treatment with enalapril, furosemide, and vetmedin.
    He’s very cooperative when taking the pills and swallows them whole without food or coating. So far he’s been on the meds for a week and has been coughing here and there in his sleep or when he gets excited. He seems a little more energetic. I plan to start adding supplements such as the vitamin E, fish oils, etc that everyone has mentioned. The cardiologist said we got there “just in time”.

    One thing that I found strange was that my vet’s cardiologist when they interpreted his x-rays and echocardiogram results specifically said that he was NOT suffering from CHF and the only worry was an arrhythmia. At this time Carter was not showing all the symptoms of CHF such as coughing and wheezing, only lethargy and sleeping alot.
    Hopefully his condition will improve and give him some extra time with me.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for your story, I was wondering when he was diagnosed with the arrhythmia did he do any tests to possible determine what the possible cause could be? I know arrhythmia can be the result of things like hypothyroidism. My Precious had low thyroid but surprisingly when looking at her you would never guess. She really had no outward appearances of low thyroid. I suspect your vet probably feels Carter has bigger problems to worry about but I just like to mention this for other readers. Good luck, I hope Carter is with you a little longer he seems to young to have to leave you yet.

  • Laurel says:

    My furry one was diagnosed with CHF in November of 2012.

    It began with a cough, and when she did not get better with antibiotics they did an x-ray which showed an enlargement.

    From there we had an echo with the cardiologist and she did better until April of 2103, when she ended up in critical condition and on oxygen for several days in the hospital.

    Thank G-d they stabilized her and she has been on Lasix 25 mg three times a day, she is only 10 pounds, little thing, Vetmedin and Enalopril, until the Enalopril was stopped just two days to give her kidneys a break.

    A couple of months ago, April 2014, she had stomach issues and the internist diagnosed her with a gall bladder mucoecele. She needed her gall bladder out, but because of her heart failure this was not possible. So, added to the medication mix, are Denamarin and Ursodial for her gall bladder, liver and pancreas.

    Just two days ago, her blood levels for her kidneys were elevated so we stopped the Enalopril and are waiting for the tests for her kidneys to come back.

    I am devastated, heartbroken.

    I was told every day now is gravy so I am holding her tight, and thanking G-d for every moment.

    Thank you so much for this thread. My Sophia was my Mom’s furry one first, and came to me when my Mom passed away in 2009. We got through the loss together.

    Laurel

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Laurel,
      Since your Mom has past away maybe if you just tell yourself that she wants to be with Sophia again that it will be easier to let her go.
      You will be in our thoughts.

      • Laurel says:

        Thank you Sue for your kind response and also for hosting this web page. I think it has provided not only valuable information but solace from and connection with others who understand.

        My beautiful furry one is at peace now and I do believe that my Mom was waiting for her.

        She took care of me until the end. She normally shakes like crazy at the vet, but a tranquility and serenity took over, and it was her signal to me that yes, it was okay, it was time. I was so ambivalent thinking it was too early.

        I will cherish her memory always.

        Laurel

  • donna crawford says:

    I have been reading all the posts, Allison I am very Interested in trying your treatment for chase. I have a rescue shitzu that was used for breeding only for seven years of her life from a puppy mill. she did not no how to drink from a bowl and new nothing about life. We were allowed to get her because we have 2 dogs she could learn from , we have had her 5 years and she was supposed to be 7 when we got her. She is the most precious soulful little dog . Just in the past couple years has she caught on that like can be grand and she seems so happy. Of course shortly after we got her we found out she had a grade 4 heart murmer and also had to have bladder stones surgically removed. She is very peppy, but has a nasty cough. sometimes worse than others. vet says she is in chf. has her on enalapril 2 a day vet medin and a half a day Lasix 2 a day. He seemed to think there wasn’t. much else we could do and is she layed around sick then a decision would be a bit easier, but she runs in from outside tail a wagin. I would like to get you amounts of these supplements, Molly weighs about 17 lbs. Your help would be appreciated. I had them on holistic grain free food but then molly and lucy my Lhasa were put on the urinary tract dry food, which from what I have read isn’t exactly healthy. looking forward to hearing from you. thank you. donna

  • donna crawford says:

    Oh I forgot to mention she has a trachea problem also that when she drinks she chokes and coughs on it. we us raised water bowls which did not help so vet said use ice cubes. sorry did not know if you needed that info also

  • R. Strange says:

    I appreciate all this info. Thank you. Rose

  • Well, I believe I have found the correct site. My little tiny Dusti is a 13yr. old Maltese. A yr.ago she was diagnosed with heart murmur, enlarged heart, collapsed trachea and CHF. She is also on the Vetmedin, Enalapril & Lasix. Her cough is now turning into a high pitched sqeak where as before it was more of a hack. She sleeps on her right side with her little left paw extended every time. I’m sure it is a comfortable breathing position for her. Like many of you I don’t have a “Lot” of money, but will spend all that I do have on her. Mine & my husbands hearts are broken everytime we look at her. I guess tomorrow I will take her to the vet. Bless all of you for we are all basically going thru the same thing. Thank you for starting this post.

    • Sue Huss says:

      It sounds like you found some comfort here, which I am glad. I hope everything goes well with Dusti at vet.

      • Hi Sue, Took Dusti to the vet, he said her lungs sounded clearer. Must be doing something right! We adjusted her Furosemide to 12,5 mg & she feels much better.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thanks for the update Debbie. I’m glad Dusti is feeling better.

          • Debra Taylor says:

            Well, the day I dreaded came a week ago, my little angel Dusti lost her battle & passed away as we were rushing her to emergency late that nite. The day before she had acted so happy, full of energy & even wanted to go for a car ride. Then, the next day the dreaded coughing again began. I held her in my arms promising my love for her was eternal. She didn’t make it to the hospital…my husband & I were devastated. The last week has been unbearable. Her sister Deenie is grieving & I don’t know what to do for her. She is clingy, looks all over the house for dusti, & throws up. Guess I will have to take her to Dr. soon…

          • Sue Huss says:

            How old is Deenie, is it possible you can get her a new companion? Maybe an older dog if she is not that energetic anymore.

          • debbie says:

            Deenie is 13 also. We have an 8yr.old Morkie, but She pretty much ignores her. Too busy running around trying to find Dusti.(Who was her sister) I try showing her more attention. I imagine it’s going to take a while until she realizes that Dusti is not coming back…

  • Michelle says:

    My dachshund/chihuahua, Olivia, has CHF and is very difficult to give meds to. We think she was maltreated as a puppy, we adopted her from the shelter when she was about a year old. I crush her meds with a pestle, then mix with peanut butter using a miniature spatula, then use my finger to spread it on the roof of her mouth. She licks it down while I kiss her nose and tell her how much I love her. It probably helps that I am a hospice nurse, but it’s still so hard seeing her get weaker.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m sure lots of people have trouble getting their little one to take their meds. Thanks for sharing how you get yours to take her medicine. Maybe it can help others who have tried just about everything.

      • Bonnie says:

        You might try “Pill Pockets”. A soft treat you can hide a pill in. You can form them to any size.

      • Debra Taylor says:

        I crush my babies pills with a pestle & mortar then wet it with the juice of the boiled chicken I give her. I use a syringe (like a baby one, a pharmacy will just give u one if u ask) Then it is so easy to administer.
        y or

        • judyq says:

          Depending on the meds, do not crush!have you ever tasted some of these meds? Yikes! Especially tramadol, that is nasty. my last dog would swallow the pills in butter or peanut butter. I often hid between a spoon full of wet food. If she got a taste of even the residue from my hands, that was it, I had a fight on my hands. She was also a dog with she wont eatpeanutbutter or butter, or cheese LOL.
          I was shocked! So, now I make tuna salad with low sodium tuna and that slides down. Another thing that works really well is a tiny piece of wonder bread with the meds squished between it. I would put on her wet food or dip in something meaty and that worked great for hiding the pill and hiding the taste. Last but not least, there are gel caps pills are made from you can order on Amazon,, I will put the pills in there, that way my pup doesn’t taste it and it slides down and it’s disguised easily. Good luck everyone, WHAT ever works, just some more suggestions

  • Angel says:

    My little Chihuahua, Daisy, was diagnosed with CHF about 3 months ago. She is on Vetmedin (1/2 pill), Enapril(1/4 pill) and Lasix started at 1mg now 3mg) she is barely 4lbs. She has very few accidents. She started having some at first, now she can sleep all night without having one. She is crated at night with a bowl of water and potty pads just in case. She just recently started coughing/hacking. After reading these stories, I upped her Lasix just a wee bit this morning to a little over 3mg to see if that will help until I can get her back to the vet. I think her diet may have a lot to do with it, but she is extremely picky. She wants to eat what the other dogs eat (Beneful)with milk bones for treats and chicken (she loves chicken). I tried Purina pro plan salmon that I read was g0od for dogs with CHF. And I tried the NF Kidney the vet suggested. Both, she ate well for a couple days and then just wouldn’t eat it anymore. It is hard to keep her out of the food I feed my other two dogs. I lost her mother last year to diabetes and renal failure. I tried a homemade diet for her and I was always concerned she wasn’t getting all the nutrition she needed so I would add some dog food to help. I guess this is not a good idea unless you can find a good food that your dog likes that is low sodium. I agree with someone above who said, “CHF sucks?” :(

    • Sue Huss says:

      I can’t say I’m much of a fan of Beneful.I know dog’s love it but I feel it’s comparable to humans craving fast food filled with grains and by-products. You might want to read my article “What’s really in my dog’s food”
      My Precious was very picky eater also so I just started making her a homemade diet, yes it is a pain to have to
      make this every week but she was worth it. I do have a recipe for a homemade diet that was given to me from my Naturpathic Vet if you want it it’s at the end of this article about my overweight dog not being able to loose weight. I did add vitamins, digestive enzymes and probiotics. I do agree CHF sucks.

    • Shannon says:

      I have a Chihuahua that I am fostering who was diagnosed with CHF almost a year ago. He is on Fortekor (2.5 mg/day) and furosemide (can’t remember the mg but he gets 1 and a 1/4 pills a day spread out over the day). We recently switched his food to Canine Life muffins and I have noticed a big difference with his cough. Luckily, he didn’t cough TOO much before either… but since we switched the food he hardly ever coughs now!
      You can buy the muffins pre-made or you can buy the mix and make them yourself. You should look into it. He loves them.. when I feed him I break up his portion of the muffin and add a little hot water (he has no teeth)they smell like pop pies when they are warmed up.. yum lol
      Here is the link to Canine Life
      http://www.theskyesthelimit.com/canine_life.htm

      You can order them or you can find them at some higher end pet stores.. just call around. They cost more.. but the change was quick and worth it for my little one. Good luck!

    • Terry Lee says:

      Well, we all seem to be in the same boat, heart failure seems to have its course no matter what we do to try to make them more comfortable. I have always fed my dogs people meat, dogs are exclusive meat eaters no matter what the vet or TV commercials say. We boil gizzards,hearts,livers, and all meats really including chicken, vitamin pill makes up for the rest. The coughing is getting worse, and always much worse when he gets excited, his appetite has improved lately eating things he never would before, starting to get a little leaking. He has put on weight over the past three years, combination of illness, meds and no incantation to get exercise as before. I am going to increase his water pill to three times a day, it seems all we can do is make them comfortable till we can no longer do this for them.

  • Angel says:

    I failed to say that those dosages are twice daily for Daisy who is 4lb Chihuahua. I also had extreme difficulty getting her to take her meds that were in pill form. She had a seizure while I was trying to get her to swallow a pill one day and then I thought of crushing them up and adding a bit of water and sucking into a syringe. She takes it very well this way. I have thought of trying a low sodium broth, but haven’t tried it yet.

  • lisa says:

    My dog was recently diagnosed with CHF and one thing that actually helps (but sounds funny) is all natural healthy dry cat food- there is an ingredient in cat food that actually helps dog’s with heart failure. Dogs with CHF are missing an enzyme in cat food that they need for a healthy heart. We have been giving her a little cat food with her other food and meds and it really does help ALOT. We tried seeing what she was like without it- and she did horrible- we put her back on it and she went back to her normal healthy vigorous self. The vet agreed that that it was indeed helping and to continue as long as we want. I do believe that the rabies shot that my vet gave her was what caused her heart failure. She was perfectly healthy until the day he gave her the shot- and 3 hours later- she had to be rushed to the vets (another one) and they saved her life. The vet agreed that he should have never given her the shot and that many people are losing their pets right after receiving this round of rabies shots. NEVER GIVE YOUR PETS A RABIES SHOT. IT IS A SCAM- you don’t know what is in it and tey are KILLING OUR PETS. They make it illegal so you have to give your vet the money for vaccinations. Vets make a 800 dollar mark up on all vaccinations and you don’t know what is safe and what is not. Inside pets do not need a rabies shot every 3 years. They need once per lifetime and there have been ZERO cases of rabies reported it the US in the past 60 yrs.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Lisa, if you are talking about coenzyme Q10 wouldn’t it better to buy the supplement and give it to your dog in his food. I don’t think a dog occasionally eating cat food is bad but there are nutritional differences in cat and dog food. Cat are carnivores and cat food contains a lot of meat or meat by-products and high in protein. Dogs are omnivores and require a more balanced diet of meat, vegetables and carbohydrates and healthy fat like coconut oil. The higher protein in the cat food might be the reason most dogs love it but it alsomight upset his stomach and give him diarrhea. With cat food a dog can become easily obese and you also have to worry that a high protein diet can cause kidney problems.

      As far as vaccines go I can’t agree more we just over-vaccinate our pets, in fact I wrote an article about a dog I pet sit for who we believe had a bad reaction after some vaccinations.
      According to the CDC the number of rabies-related human deaths in the United States has declined from more than 100 annually at the turn of the century to one or two per year in the 1990’s and it still is possible that our pet can get rabies from wildlife or a bat.
      There are alternatives to booster vaccinations. It is a blood titer test. It test the level of antibodies to disease in their blood. The problem with this as we all know blood work can end up being more costly than the vaccination and it is the law to have our pets vaccinated against rabies. I have to admit I am not one who vaccinates my dog every year like the postcard from the vet suggests.

  • Cissy says:

    Mickey my 12 year old Chihuahua was diaognoised with CHF/heart murmur. A year ago he stopped eating and started having seizures. He went down hill fast. I have a wonderful vet Dr. Ware who took care of him and even took him home with her as he could not be left over the weekend at her facility. When I walked in Monday everyone there was in amazement that he had pulled through. We have been blessed with another year that we didn’t think we would have at this time last year. He is on enalapril, Vetmedin, keppra, cardizem and lasix. He started coughing and quit eating and his breathing got very labored. We have now changed him over to injectable Lasix. While at the vet for the day yesterday with an iv and Lasix he came home with Lasix injections every 4 hrs and was to start today every six hours. He is some better but his coughing gets really bad between the 4 1/2 – 5 hr mark. Not able to get any of his other meds down with the exception of 1 dose of the Cardizem this afternoon. He ate a little today. My heart breaks for him when his cough gets bad and his breathing becomes labored. Will talk to Dr. tomorrow about how long he can stay on the Lasix so close together.

  • Allie Arlt says:

    Anyone have any tips for at-home remedies for extreme & relentless coughing/gagging for my poor 14 year old yorkie/jack Russell mix with CHF? I brought her to the vet last week & they upped her Lasix but it hasn’t helped her coughing episodes at all & now it’s the weekend & she hasn’t had a restful hour of sleep in 5 straight days. We are BOTH miserable. How can I help my poor baby’s cough on my own?! What has worked for you guys?

    • Sue Huss says:

      I know things are always worse on weekends. I tried honey before without much help but at least it might help her throat. It sounds like she needs something more than just Lasix take her back to vet Monday and insist on something.

    • Beth Paradis says:

      Tussigon is a great medication for the coughing, I use it up to 4 times a day. Also in a pinch I use DM cough syrup you can buy over the counter. Hopes this helps! Its the worst feeling to hear them cough like that!! Good Luck!

    • Terry Lee says:

      Hydrocodone is the only thing that gives them some relief, nothing else works, period.

  • Beth Paradis says:

    Yes my Chihuahua has chf and grade 5 heart murmur. Been 9 months and he is doing quite well. On two different heart medications, lasik, cough med but must say he is holding his own!

  • Kim says:

    My pom Tucker is only 9 – we adopted him with a broken leg when he was about 7 months old. He is little only 7 lbs…but has recently stopped eating and is down to 6 lbs… He’s hear murmur went quickly from two to four, he also has a bad trachea he was on Torbutrol 1mg a day, which is where he started loosing his appetite. I discontinued his Torbutrol, but he started refusing all food…Even homemade food… He is currently on Enalapril 2.5mg 2x/day, Salax 12.5mg/2x/day, and Vetmedin 1.25mg 2x/day… He is still very lethargic I would think due to not eating enough…I have to force feed him the last two weeks, or he only wants treats… If anyone can supply some advise on how to help with increasing pups appetite….He is still so young for a pom and is breaking our hearts that he will not eat…

    • Sue Huss says:

      I feed my dogs home made food also and my middle Pomeranian won’t eat sometimes either. My best advice is dogs like people get tired of eating the same thing so I constantly have to change recipes from chicken, beef pork or liver with different vegetables like green beans, carrots, peas and rice or orzo with some coconut oil for their healthy fat. It’s a pain but they’re worth it. Sometimes I still have to put cheese on top of her food she is so picky.

  • Amy Greer says:

    I lost my beloved 10 yr. old Chihuahua Priscilla to CHF on May 9th, 2014. I still feel immense guilt & sadness over this loss as I feel it could have been prevented.
    Priscilla was diagnosed with tracheal collapse around age 5. She also started having seizures when she was around 4 yr. old, though they were infrequent. (about 2-4X a yr.)
    The day she passed away I noticed her breathing seemed labored. I brought her into my vet who listened to her breathing, examined her & said she believed it was allergies & gave her a steroid shot & prescribed allergy pills. Her breathing seemed to get worse while we were in there & I even said “are you sure it’s not her heart? It seems 2 severe to be allergies.” She suggested doing xrays but like a fool I agreed to let her do the allergy shot 1st & take her home to see how she did. Within 15 min. home her breathing got worse & she went under the couch to hide. I brought her back up, did Xray, found she had fluid in her lungs & her heart was enlarged. They had to put her on oxygen several times just to get the xray done. they gave her th diuretic shot & sent me home. (they were already closed at this point) I was scared to death at this point to leave & told them I didn’t think she’d make it through the night. I said “don’t you think she needs to be on the oxygen? What am I going to do if her breathing gets labored & I can’t make it to the emergency vet?” They said just try to calm her down. Great! So I left & she started breathing very hard & gasping within a minute down the rd. I turned into my driveway screaming at my husband to drive me back up to the vet as I was trying to breathe into her mouth. I called vet on the way (it’s 2 miles, if that from my house) but vet said they were gone & couldn’t get back up there. said to go to Emerg. vet. WE wouldn’t make it I said. (which we didn’t) she started coughing up liquid with blood in it, gasping in my arms & died quickly after. So within finding out she had CHF my dog was dead less than 2 hrs. later.
    Needless to say, I was devastated! I was hysterical, inconsolable. I didn’t let go over her for my husband to bury her for 2 hrs. It was a nightmare. I’ll never forget it & still cry for her, have nightmares & feel like I’ll never get over it. My eyes r filled with tears now thinking about my poor little princess & how I should’ve done more, known more, not trusted the stupid vet, etc…
    I have since found a new vet, although I still go to this place occasionally as it’s so close, but I always ask for a different vet. they have one I love & trust. My new vet said sometimes it just happens like this & it may have been too far gone. He said he’s put dogs in an oxygen tent only to still watch them gasp & pass away. I feel like if I had had that option maybe I could have treated her with some natural remedies as the other lady mentioned here & my baby may have lived longer. It’s so hard to live with the guilt. I go back & forth from that & anger, blaming the vet. I feel like she should’ve been able to hear the fluid listening to her heart. If she had & we treated for that 1st, rather than giving that steroid shot, maybe she’d be alive today.
    I have adopted a new Chihuahua. I was in such agony I felt I needed another companion. I adopted my Roxie from a shelter with a very high euthanasia rate. She is a love & I’m glad I have her. She came with kennel cough & took over a month to be over it. She does the tell tale honking cough of trachea collapse. Fabulous! Over the last 3 wks. or so she has been retching & spitting up either clear foam & sometimes yellowish foam. I’m scared to death she has CHF. I’m trying to wait until next month to go in for xrays & blood work as it costs a small fortune here. (No VA- DC area) I may take her in for a regular exam in the meantime but it seems both vets just think everything is allergies & want to prescribe steroids and antibiotics for everything.
    Thank you for reading this very long comment. It’s actually the 1st time I’ve written about losing my baby. It was probably 5 wks. b4 I went a day without crying.
    Any advice/insight is definitely appreciated. I’m glad I found this site as it has great info. I found it like 3 months ago but wasn’t able to write my story yet.
    Thanks again,
    Amy

    • Sue Huss says:

      Oh my gosh!! I couldn’t read your story without tears in my eyes.
      I have to tell you almost the same thing happened to me. I rescued a 6 year old Pomeranian who also had kennel cough forever. She gets excited and coughs all the time. My vet did say she had allergies which I have to agree but she also has the beginning of collapsing trachea. She also has frequent episodes of reverse sneezing which I know many dogs have but they only last a few minutes but hers last hours where I have to take her to the vet for a steroid shot. I have steroid pills to also give if she has an episode on the weekend but sometimes it’s not enough.
      My point of all this is I guess instead of thinking we chose this dog perhaps somehow this dog chose us because they knew what love and commitment we gave to our previous pet. It may be another uphill battle with their health but I know you can do it, as can I.
      Please don’t feel so guilty about her dying on your way home. I like to think that your Priscilla much like my Precious chose that time to make room for your next pet who needs you just as much.
      I thank God everyday for sending me Precious #2, can you believe since she was a stray with no name I named her Precious because she looks just like Precious #1.
      Good luck give Roxie my love.

      • Amy Greer says:

        Sue,
        Thank u so very much for your heartfelt response. Though I cried while reading most of it, it also brought me a lot of peace. I think I really needed to write my story to move on a little. Also reaching out to someone who has been through similar experiences seems to help.
        Your words are so helpful to me. I didn’t think about it in the way you put it but it makes a lot of sense. Priscilla may have left to make room for Roxie. That is a positive way to look at it. Little Roxie had no apps on her when I applied to adopt her & her time was quickly running out. She is an adorable little Chi/Corgi mix with coloring like a tiny German shepherd. She looks like she has black eyeliner around her eyes, has the sweetest face. When I saw her standing in the corner, her whole body shivering I knew I had to adopt her. I just looked at that tiny body & those soulful eyes & I wanted to bring her home. She has been a bit of a handful as she has separation anxiety (understandable) & has a lot of fear of men so the 1st few wks. it was very difficult with my husband. She kept growling, barking & lunging at him. With patience, lots of love, & consistency she has improved dramatically. She rarely ever barks at him anymore, doesn’t try to bite him & is even starting to allow him to pet her. She is very protective of my other dog (a pitbull- yeah, funny!) & my son. If my hubby does any rough housing/playing with them she gets nervous as she thinks they’re going to be hurt. So I have to remind him not to do that in front of her- at least not yet. She’s getting there, but she’s not completely sure of him yet. She is learning to trust, slowly. It’s obvious she was abused by a man. Funny, she has no problems with children at all, fast moving or not.
        My one saving grace with the way Priscilla went is that it was so fast. Strange to say as it was also horrible, but if I had to make the decision to put her down and/or watched her suffer a long time it would’ve killed me. I got her while my son was in the hospital just after he was born as a preemie. She helped get me through that very difficult time & we had a very close bond. So I kind of got 2 babies at the same time. My son is 10 too & he grew up with her. It was a hard time for our whole family. Even my hubby (whom never had pets b4 marrying me) was crying a lot & rather sad for a while. Priscilla was a special & wonderful little dog. She won over everyone who met her. Even my brother in law, whom swore he hated little dogs, loved her dearly. When we went to Maine to visit she’d always run right up to him & camp out in his lap. She was a joy to have around.
        Roxie is here warming my lap. I adore her. So you are right in that she knew I was meant to be her mommy. She gets & will get the best of care. She is part of our family now.
        Thanks again for your kind & very helpful words. I will continue to come here & read all the great comments.
        Blessings,
        Amy

  • Sue Huss says:

    I’m so happy that I have been able to bring you a little peace. Perhaps Priscilla knew how painful it would of been for you to make that decision to put her down and leaving when she did was her last way of thanking you for your love and trying to spare you that pain.
    Blessings to you also.

  • CHERYL says:

    Hi Sue, I understand exactly how you feel,my beautiful Lil 10 year old Pomeranian Chester was diagnosed with heart failure in January this year. It broke my heart literally when the vet told me he had that as well as fluid in his lungs. Chester’s story before he came to me is one of a poor Lil boy who had 3 homes, breeder who didn’t care about the animals just the Money, next the owner who loved him too much, but over fed him so that by the time he was 6 months old he was too heavy for his Lil legs and couldn’t walk. Sorry for interruption, Chester is snoring so loud beside me on the bed I can’t think. Where was I, oh yes, the owner before me wasn’t cruel in any way, they just didn’t understand him. Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of a Pomeranian in their life will understand where I’m coming from. They are not a dog in the sense of a dog, they are your best friend, a most wonderful companion and have a face that lights up your heart with a single smile. He was only 18 months old when I first met him, I had recently lost my two beautiful longhaired Chihuahuas to old age and wasn’t even looking for another dog as yet. Until he strutted his stuff on the end of lead in front of me. I had to ask about him, it was like he was willing me to. Anyway, turned out he was looking for a new home. Now, I also rescued and rehomed cats at that time , I sat down on the grass talking to the lady when he jumped into my lap, looked up at me and smiled. I asked if I could take him home and see how he got on with the mob, who were used to dogs. I put him down in the house, the cats all circled him, looked him up and down, looked at me and walked away, he was approved of,I rang the lady and just said he is staying. That was the start of a love affair to last a lifetime. We have been inseparable,Chester goes everywhere, does everything and has friends everywhere. I can’t post a photo, but he is a red chestnut, and handsome as. Now, back to his heart problems,I actually had him xrayed in January for another problem when we found out about his heart, he died at 9 o’clock that night from complications due to the anaesthetic,I gave him mouth to mouth and CPR, rang the vet and rang a friend to drive us to the vets.By the time we got there he was back in the land of the living. He was put on oxygen for 2 hours and was in intensive care overnight, the vet kept in touch through out the night until he stabilized at 3am, my baby boy was back with me the next day. It was the first time he wasn’t beside me on the bed since he came to stay,even his best mate,Huey, a young cat who since the time he could climb on the bed and snuggle into Chester was lost without him that night. I couldn’t sleep and felt so sick,I wasn’t prepared to lose my best friend,not then, not now. Chester had another bad turn in August, once again another rush job to the vets, more oxygen, this time he had to share with me as I was holding it on him and I started to feel faint. More xrays, this time I just held him, cause he can’t have anaesthetic anymore,he was so good he just laid there looking up at me. Bad news, his Lil heart had enlarged a wee bit more and there was thickening of the lungs, he was in final stage heart failure. I was told every day with him was a bonus and he had maybe 6 months.His weight had dropped to 3.8 kilos, the vet said he would just keep losing weight no matter what I fed him or how much. My life without Chester,I couldn’t and wouldn’t believe it. After a night of crying and cuddling my baby boy I was willing to try anything. I eventually found a site called CANINE HEART HEALTH. The reviews alone made me ring a lady named Amanda in CANADA,by the way I am in Australia. She has cured dogs with heart failure the natural way, I had nothing to lose except Chester. Amanda was wonderful, she had been thru the same thing with two of her dogs. I did everything she said to do until I got his bundle of goodies from her. It’s only been a month and a half since Chester started on his new diets and treatment and he has gone from a listless sick baby to my old friend again, he has gained weight ( 4.1 kilos, the vets are shocked ). He has more energy that I have to slow him down for fear of over taxing his heart. He visits the vets every 2 weeks for checks, when he gets there he struts in with his tail proudly over his back and says look at me, don’t give ME up for dead yet. Now, don’t get me wrong, Chester is not out of the woods yet, but he is happier and so am I, he will continue to take the horrible heart meds until the day the vets say otherwise and he will always be on his natural foods and treatment for life. Hopefully it will be a long healthy life. What I am saying is don’t give up on the Best friend in your life. LOVE CHERYL and CHESTER. PS. I am using a friends email address so please don’t use it. Ta.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for the website. Unfortunately for me I had to put Precious down last year. It was extremely hard but I know the time had come. I had 3 Pomeranians for so long it just didn’t feel right with only two, so after several months I rescued a Pomeranian who looks just like her. She was a stray with no name so naturally I had to name her Precious. It’s funny when I talk to my friends about her I have to say things like Precious #2 acts just like Precious #1 did.
      Anyway I’m glad your Chester is doing better and maybe others will be helped with your advice. Thanks and blessings to both of you.

  • CHERYL says:

    KIM, I FOUND WHEN CHESTER GOT PICKY WITH FOOD I PUREED SEMI-COOKED PUMPKIN, CARROTS AND PEAS AND GAVE HIM RAW DICED CHICKEN, HE HAD GONE OFF COOKED CHICKEN. YOU CAN USE WHATEVER MEAT YOUR BABY LIKES BEST. IF NEED BE PURÉE THE MEAT IN WITH THE VEGETABLES AND SYRINGE IT SLOWLY INTO HIS MOUTH TILL HE EATS ON HIS OWN. ALL CHESTERS FOOD IS ORGANIC, HIS WATER IS TRIPLE FILTERED PURE, HE GETS ENOUGH CHEMICALS IN THE DRUGS FOR HIS HEART. I ALSO GIVE HIM PLAIN GREEK YOGURT WITH PROBIOTICS IN IT. MAKE SURE IT HAS NO SALT OR SUGAR ADDED. I FIND IT HELPS HIS TUMMY AND HE LOVES IT,A TEASPOON AFTER EVERY MEAL.HE HAS 3-4 MEALS A DAY. I HOPE THAT THIS HELPS YOU AND YOUR LIL BABY. CHERYL AND CHESTER.

    • Kim says:

      Hi Cheryl, thank you for your reply. I have been pureeing Tucker’s food for about two weeks and he has started to put a few ounces back on! I will also give him some plain Greek yogurt today to see if he will take that. I am hopeful that Mr. Tucker will start enjoying food again and eat on his own. Thank you Kim & Tucker

  • CHERYL says:

    SUE, I’VE JUST ONLY REALISED THAT ONLY ONE OF REPLIES I SENT EARLIER WENT THRU, THE ONE TO YOU ABOUT MY SORRY ON YOUR LOSS OF YOUR BEAUTIFUL PRECIOUS #1 DIDN’T WORK FOR WHATEVER REASON. IN ANSWER TO PRECIOUS #2 BEING LIKE PRECIOUS #1, I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE GREATEST LOVE OUR ANIMALS HAVE FOR US WILL ALWAYS FIND A BACK TO US, USUALLY IN A BODY VERY MUCH LIKE THE ONE THEY HAD BEFORE. AFTER ALL IT IS THE SOUL WHICH LIVES ON FOR ETERNITY. I HAD A BEAUTIFUL TABBY AND WHITE CAT I NAMED TABITHA THE MOMENT I SAW HER WHEN SHE WAS 6 WEEKS OLD. SHE WAS BORN ON A DAIRY FARM NOT FAR FROM WHERE I LIVED, HER MOTHER AND 2 SIBLINGS WERE KILLED BY DOGS, TABITHA AND 1 BROTHER WERE RESCUED AND SHE CAME TO LIVE WITH ME. I LIVED AND WORKED ON 100 ACRES, WHEREVER I WENT, SHE WAS ALWAYS WITH ME OF HER OWN ACCORD, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME JUST WALKING TOGETHER, SHE WOULD EVEN JUMP ON THE TRACTOR. SHE SLEPT ON MY STOMACH AND EVEN LAID ON THE EDGE OF THE BATH PADDLING HER LIL PAWS IN THE BUBBLES. FINE YOU ALL SAW WHEN YOU SPEND A LIFETIME WITH AN ANIMAL. TABITHA’S LIFE STARTED THE MOMENT I SAFELY TUCKED HER INTO MY SHIRT TO TAKE HER HOME UNTIL 2 YEARS LATER WHEN SHE WENT TO CAT HEAVEN AFTER CONTRACTING MAD COW DISEASE. TABITHA IN MY EYES WAS MY SOUL MATE. WHY I HAVE TOLD YOU ALL THAT, WAS BECAUSE TABITHA FOUND HER WAY BACK TO ME, NOT AS SOON AS YOUR PRECIOUS, BUT 2 YEARS LATER IN A BODY SIMILAR TO HERSELF, WHAT MADE THIS CAT STAND OUT WAS TABITHAS BEAUTIFUL BLUE EYES IN THIS NEW BODY. SAME MANNERISMS’, FOLLOWED ME EVERYWHERE, SLEPT ON MY STOMACH AND HAD THE SAME MEOW, OH, YEH, SHE WAS A RESCUED 6 WEEK OLD. GYPSY LADY WAS HER NAME AND SHE LIVED TILL SHE WAS 14 AND THEN GOT BREAST CANCER THE SAME TIME I DID, WE WERE BOTH OPERATED ON 1 WEEK APART. HER TUMOR WAS BIGGER THAN MINE AND HAD SPREAD, OF COURSE SHE HAD MORE BREASTS’ THAN ME. GOTTA GO THAT ONE BETTER THAN ME SHE DID. 4 YEARS AGO TABITHA CAME BACK AGAIN, IN AN IDENTICAL BODY TO GYPSY, ONCE AGAIN. 6 WEEKS OLD WITH BLUE EYES,( BY THE WAY THEY ALL KEPT THEIR BABY BLUES INTO ADULTHOOD.) AND IS STILL WITH ME NOW WITH ONE LIL HICCUP, SHE IS NOW A HE, JESSIE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 20 YEARS NOW. ALSO REMEMBER, I RESCUED CATS SO I WOULD HAVE UP TO 30 CATS AT ONE TIME, ( I HAD CAT PROOF FENCES AROUND THE PROPERTY. FOR THOSE WHO THINK I HAD CATS RUNNING EVERYWHERE.) IT WASN’T JUST ME AND HER, OTHERS WOULD COME FOR WALKS, BUT NOT EVERYTHING ELSE. SUE, IN YOUR HOME I BELIEVE PRECIOUS #1 IS HOME. I LOVE YOUR SITE, I DON’T HAD OTHERS AROUND ME WHO HAD OR HAVE BABES WITH SIMILAR PROBLEMS. THANK YOU… CHERYL AND CHESTER.

  • Sue Huss says:

    Thank you for your beautiful story Cheryl. I do believe our pets return either with reincarnation or what some call soul walk-ins. I don’t talk much about it here on my blog because I don’t want anyone to think I am too far out. I can’t help but think Precious #2 is definitely not just a look alike Pomeranian but truly the same soul inside her. Whatever the facts are my beliefs bring me peace.
    Many blessings to you.

  • Donna Thomas says:

    I have a 14 year old chihuahua that I have had since he was 1, he was just diagnosed with CHF and heart murmur. The vet put him on furosemide 10mg 0.5 twice daily and Vetmedin 1.25mg 1/2 tablet twice daily. His coughing has gotten so much better. He has been on this for about 2 months now. Well 3 days ago he quit eating,until last night he ate some but not a whole lot. He continues to drink water. I called the vet to see if there was anything I could give him to increase his appetite, the receptionist said he would have to see him first and probably give him some fluids, obviously she didn’t know what his condition was , because he has CHF which he has fluid around his heart and doesn’t need anymore, I use to work at the vet for9 years and I thought without stressing him out he could give me some advice without driving an hour to get there. I was going to see if maybe prednisone may help, but of course I have to carry him in for him to answer that question. Just a simple yes or no would of helped. I am not asking for free advice, If the receptionist would of just taken a few minutes out of her so called busy schedule to ask would of been nice. Any suggestions?

    • Sue Huss says:

      Next time ask to talk to your vet directly if that doesn’t work find another Veternairian. My vet will always talk to me on the phone if I need some advice. I know predisone has a side effect of increasing appetite but I don’t feel that is the answer for a pet who doesn’t want to eat.
      What are you feeding him, soft food home made food? I always cook home made food for my dogs but my one Pomeranian can be very picky. I have resorted to cheese or braunschweiger on top of food for her to eat. When my cat wouldn’t eat my vet suggested he could give her an injection of b-12.

    • Terry Lee says:

      Try to relax honey, your dog will eat when they feel better. Don’t rush to get more medicine into your dog. We have been on heart meds for about two years, my dog has his days when he is not hungry and other days he eats fine. I have always build my dogs gizzards, livers, etc, chicken some beef and Turkey wings and legs, vets complain for one reason or another, but dogs are carnivores, period. I cut meat into small pieces.I do snacks when he is not eating well, I buy only USA chicken strips which I cut into very small pieces.. Dogs Well has good fresh snacks they love.I insisted the dog get cough medicine with codeine I give twice a day, it helps when the coughing goes on and on and on.
      All my dogs live a long time and only have health issues when
      they get over 13 and this is normal aging. I know my 14 year old is in his closing days, his coughing is allot now, when he gets up to move around he starts coughing, he’s happy otherwise and until that changes, we will just make him comfortable.

  • Donna Thomas says:

    Thanks for your suggestion, I have been cooking everything under the sun it seems, even his favorite rib eye steak. I was able to get him to eat tonight, some gravy out of a can of Alpo Lamb and rice, he went to the bowl I had for another one of my dogs and was licking that so I fixed him some of the gravy and he ate more than he had in the last 3 days. I will nurse him along over the weekend with your suggestions and call my vet again on Monday. God Bless you and, I pray it works.

  • donna crawford says:

    I am so glad I found this site . we have a puppy mill breeder shitzu.. She was 6 or 7 when we got her and shortly after we got her was told she had a grade 4 heart murmer. this past year has been so hard because she was diagnosed as having heart failure. She is the sweetest dog and if she were a person she would be one of those people that took everything in stride and would find something good about it. She has always had trouble drinking water, coughs when she drinks, we have tried raised bowls and now just use ice cubes. to keep this short I will start at where we are now. At this point she is taking 1 and a half vet medin 2 x a day 2 Lasix a day 2 enalapril a day 1/4 theophylin 2 x a day an antibiotic because of throat issues and spirolactin 1/2 two times a day. She has had a cough for a while but this last week it sounded congested. another vet gave me pred. to give her, but after 3 I quit them. Now she is coughing so much and sometimes I sit up and hold her upright which helps some. she coughs more when she anticipates food or attention also. she seems so happy and takes the coughing in stride. trots around the house, wagging her tail. How do you decide to put a pet down when she seems to accept her lot and is still happy? This kills me listening to her , they say they will let you know when they are ready. When I take her to the vet she never coughs there and sometimes if something gets her attention it stops the cough.Her heart is quite enlarged and they say it is compressing the throat area, not sure which part to call it. she loves to eat so that is not a problem. I put her pills in bread and she gobbles them down. Oh and she is on a combination cough syrup that is compounded. She is twelve years old if we were told correctly. I keep telling myself that I need to make that decision soon, I had it in mind for today but I keep hoping the newest meds. will kick in as she has been on them only two days, spirolactin and antibiotic. Please Sue do you have any suggestions? Would the suppliments be something that I should try? By the way her name is molly.

    • Laurel says:

      Hi Donna,

      My heart goes out to you. I am sending you much comfort and many positive thoughts and well wishes.

      I posted on June 29th, facing the same heart wrenching decision for my Sophia.

      On July 4th, I posted again, after she was at peace.

      The day I brought her in I was still not sure if I was doing the right thing. But, she let me know.

      It is has been 3 months now and I know I did the right thing.

      Our furry ones will hide their pain from us, protect us and love us until the end.

      You will know in your heart when the time is right. Listen to your inner wisdom. It will not fail you.

      Sending you all the support and caring for you and your furry one.

      Laurel

      • Donna Thomas says:

        Laurel, Thank you sooooo.. much for your post, I struggle daily with my Spikie, I just have so much love for this little dog, it is comforting to know that you said that I would know when the time is right. I have sat and wondered how would I know. He has good days then bad days, and the good ones so out weigh the bad right now, I hope and pray I do know when its time. God Bless you.

      • donna crawford says:

        Thank u for your reply. The last couple days have been mostly bad with molly coughing and gaggi ng . I get up with her at night as layimg in bed listening to her struggle is unbearable. If I hold her in an upright sitting up position like wnen they sit up to beg that this usually stops the coughing. Takes about 10 minutes and somtimes when I let her down it controls the cough for a while. Sounds strange but , maybe it relieves the pressure from the enlarged heart making an appointment today, which will probably end in her euthanasia. So hard. Trying to get the crying over now so I dont blubber like a fool there. Iknow anything else is just prolonging the inevitable at this point, they said she was agrade 5 last week. It is weird that she usually doesnt cough on the way there or while there. Then I worry she is trying to show she is not ready. As they say they let u know and with our other dogs we did know, doesnt make it easier even then. I just hope I am doing the right thing if I end this for her. It is like you are putting a death sentence on them. My old vet would gently say he thought it was time. Which I had complete faith in his opinion. Ugh sorry I have rambled on, I have to tell u last night one of thd stray cats I feed was on the porch with molly when I let her out, she laid down and he came over and started kneeding her side like he knew she needed comforting. I could have cried. Thank u for caring enough to reply

        • Donna Thomas says:

          Oh my. The tears are pouring down my face. So sorry that you and your sweet baby have to go through this. I pray that God eases the pain that you are in right now . I just hate that these innocent loving creatures have to experience such things. I know that your baby has been lucky to have experienced the love that you have give her. God Bless you and you will continue to be in my Prayers today and in the coming days. God Bless Molly.

        • Laurel says:

          Dearest Donna,

          Much strength and wisdom your way, today, Donna.

          You are doing the kindest and most loving thing you could do for your Molly. She will be with you in your heart, always.

          Much love,

          Laurel

      • donna crawford says:

        Thank you so much Today has been very hard. Took molly to vet and for the first time she coughed in the office. He said she was having difficulty breatning. He x rayed her and took me back and showed me comparison from a year ago. They took several over the past couple years. He said her heart was the largest he has seen in a dog her size? Very little room left and pressing on her lungs and trachae. He said could try to keep her comfortable a few more days. I said what would you do if she was yours, he said I cant say, but she was in a struggle for breath and lots of belly breathing. She was not herself today and when she was sitting on table she looked at me so sadly, ifelt guilty. My husband left work early to go with me. He knew this one was especially hard for me . I gave them the go ahead and left the room.i could not stay there. Thank heaven for hubby. I have loved all of our pets through the years, but some touch your heartin a special way and this is one of them. I still feel guilty because of the way she looked at me in such a sad way. The vet said he was surprised she had done as well as she has in the past weeks. In two weeks four trips for check ups and new meds.when I got home our other two dogs were looking for her. One is a lhasa, lucy and a pom, chloe. Nine and ten years old. Hope they stay healthy for a long time. No more pills , no more mopping accidents on the floor, stupid me , I will miss that because it was part of her this past couple years. I never saw a mean bone in her little body and being a puppymill breeder dog for six of her twelve years is awful but if her puppies were anything like her they had to be sweethearts. Thank you all for your support and caring about molly and all the others who are going through tough times. This site is awesome.

        • Amy Greer says:

          Dear Donna,

          I’ve been following your story & am so very saddened to hear of your loss today. ): My heart & prayers go out to you. I’m glad you have a supportive hubby who was there with you as you lost your beloved baby. I totally get what you said about some that are just special & touch you more deeply. My Priscilla, whom I lost May 9th was one such pet for me. She was my precious little sidekick. I loved her so dearly & our relationship was very special. I luckily had my supportive loving hubby with me when I lost her also. Although it was very sudden, unexpected & traumatic, he was with me nonetheless. I would’ve been going through exactly what you just did had I known in advance she had heart disease. I’m not sure I’ be able to hold it together very well watching her as you had to & making the decision. I hope you find some healing through communicating with others who share your pain & experience. There are some very supportive & loving people on here. It’s a great resource of info too as people post what has worked for them, supplements, etc, that we can use with our other dogs.
          You are in my thoughts. Virtual hugs sent you way.
          God bless,
          Amy

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Donna,
      Why did you stop the predisone? As a pet sitter I have cared for dogs have been on Predisone for years. I know there are long term bad side effects but it is about quality of life. If the predisone helped please try it again. If it didn’t and you are unsure of what to do just ask your vet his or her opinion if they think it is time. I know it is always hard to make that decision by yourself. My new Pomeranian, Precious #2 also coughs a lot when she gets excited and I was told she has the beginning of collapsing trachea. It sounds like this is happening to your Molly now since her heart is enlarged. I guess she has a double whammy now for her health. I hope you can find the strength for making the decision that sounds like is near. I really believe that pets who we love this much will return to us again. I think Molly will also find her way back to you.

  • Jen says:

    I am crying like a baby reading through all of this. My 14 year old pallpiolln named Blossom is dealing with Chf. She also is on enalpril and furosemide but I will look into removing the enalpril from her diet. She was diagnosed almost 2 years ago and was doing well on the meds, just the occasional coughing spell. Recently she has gotten much worse and is coughing nonstop and every breath seems to be a struggle. I am going to the vet as soon as possible but she gets extremely stressed out when she leaves home, to the point of anxiety attacks. I don’t want to even think about sending her to heaven yet but looking into her eyes is so hard now… I just see sadness and pain. It is so hard to make this decision as I have had her since I was only 6 years old. She has been there ever since I can remember. I feel that she is telling me that it is her time, but my other family members think otherwise, as she is still walking and eating. Thank you so much for posting this thread it truly did help.

    • Sue Huss says:

      It’s obvious you feel her suffering more than family members. Do what your heart tells you. I know I’ve said it before but I do believe your Blossom will come back to you, how could she not you both grew up together.
      Blessings to you both.

  • donna crawford says:

    Sue I quit the pred because she wasnt putting out the urine as much as before she took it and her cough was getting worse. It was so kind of you to start this site because of what you went through with prec ious. You have certainly helped a lot of us. Thank you . I think I will have to let molly go today as I am afraid she is at the point she is not feeling well at all. Again thank you donna this is so hard and I wish everyone peace over whatever their outcome will be with their precious pets

    • Donna Thomas says:

      Peace be with you and Molly too Dear Friend.

      • donna crawford says:

        Donna , I hope all goes well for your spikie and you have him for many more years. Thank you for your prayers for molly. Sending you my thanks and my prayers for spikie. Sue did such an unselfish thing when she started this site so others could share in the struggle with chf. It helps to be able to talk with someone who knows and cares what you are going through. Some never understand how you can get so attached to what they refer to as just a dog. But for us is part of our family. They dont know the love and comfort our little ones bring. I know we did what was kindest for molly. It is just hard to be sure when sometimes. Thoughts and prayers for you and spikie. Donna c.

        • Donna Thomas says:

          Thank you Soo much Donna. I too am grateful for this site. I am so glad to be able to talk to someone that feels the same way I do when it comes to my pets. They are, as you said, a part of of our families. But I am especially grateful for meeting you. You have really help me. I am truly sorry about Mollie, I wish you could kept her forever. One thing I do know Spike will have the pleasure of Mollie when it is time for him to go. Thanks again. You will continue to be in my Prayers.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thank you to both Donna’s for your kind words. I’m glad it has helped people. My thoughts are with you and everyone who has shared their feelings. Blessings to everyone.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m so sorry Donna I guess some drugs just don’t work for all dogs. I hope you were able to make that hard decision without too much guilt.

  • claudette says:

    Hi Sue,
    Don’t know how or why I ended up on your site but so glad I did.My dog Misty aka precious is 15 years old,and sadly has chf.She is on all 3 meds,lasix,vetmedin,and fortekor.Her cough has gotten worse this last week and I struggle every day wondering if I am doing the right thing or bring selfish keeping her alive.I do not want her suffering,but she is still eating drinking,and going outside to use the washroom.She does have seizures if she gets excited and runs around,and that breaks my heart because that was something she would do a lot.(run around like a like a lunatic,and she loved doing it)I feel so sad that she can no longer run like that,but I feel if I put her to sleep I’m not doing right by her either.I would rather that she died at home surrounded by her family,but fear she will not be comfortable.Its a hard decision that a lot of people do not understand.This little dog has been such a big part of my life,and I’ve been through a lot in my life but nothing has prepared me for how hard this was going to be.I found all your article very comforting as I sit hear crying my eyes out,knowing I’m not the only one going through this helps somewhat.Shes asleep in her recliner and the rescued 15 year old English setter is looking at me.Shes not well either but not so acute as misty.I just hope I have the strength when the time comes.I can’t imagine any day without her.I have increased her lasix today and if the cough doesn’t settle will have to visit her Dr this week.I guess only time will tell,but right now she is with me,appears comfortable and that’s all I can ask for.Thanks so much for sharing your story,it certainly helped me today.Both of her sisters died 2 years ago after being on meds for years,Misty never started lasix until august of this year,and January started the other 2.She us a fighter.I never thought she would make it so long,but however long it takes I will do my best to keep her comfortable.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Claudette,
      Don’t feel too bad if your Misty died at home you probably would feel guilty that if only you could of taken her to the vet he might of been able to do something. I do know some veterinarians will come to your house when it’s time to put her down. Maybe that would make you feel better. I’m sure it would be less stressful on Misty. The problem with that is we always think our vet has some more magic. Thank you for your kind words, I think we all draw comfort from everyone’s story here. Blessings to you and Misty.

      • claudette says:

        Thank you Sue.Misty does not struggle to breathe but the cough is gut wrenching to hear.She doesn’t seem bothered by it,I think it bothers me more,not being able to stop it for her.I have an excellent vet,who has been very kind and compassionate.I actually thought we were going to put Misty to sleep in july but we never tried lasix and with our vets gentle coaxing we went home,and it hasn’t been perfect but I have had some quality time with my precious(its so funny that is the only reason I started reading this,the fact you called your dog precious,and I always refer to Misty has “the precious”)anytime I need advice or help my vet is only a call away.If she is not there when I call,all I have to do is leave a message,and not long after she calls to see how our baby is doing.Since Misty is basically palliative care she will call her prescription in to the pharmacy,and I know will come to my home to administer the needle should I need her to.I live 2 hours away,but have a home in the city near the vet that I can take her for her final days.Right now we are at our country/bay home and Misty can roam outside without boundaries.I actually moved here for the sole purpose both my dogs could enjoy the freedom without fences and leashes.My city cat has even ventured outside and captured his first mouse at the age of 12.Every day has its ups and downs,but to actually talk to someone who has been through this and feels the same about their beloved pet is so comforting.I am a retired nurse,and presently a small business owner who normally is the problem solver,and advice giver,and I find it difficult to be the person who needs to be comforted,if you know what I mean.I have to be the strong one,and it’s very hard for me to let you guard down,so to talk freely about my feelings is very difficult.I do know my heart is broken,and I am crying here now as I write this.I have always had a soft spot in my heart for animals,and have rescued a good few,but this little dog has my heart like no other animal,my faithful friend and companion.I can’t even think about her being gone,but I know it’s not possible for her to stay much longer.So for now I will do everything in my power to make her comfortable and let her know she is loved beyond words.I will keep you updated,and God Bless all of you who are going through this terrible disease with your babies.

  • claudette says:

    Update on Misty.Back to vet last Tues.Decreased lasix and added spironolactone.I know it is only a bandaid,but her coughing has decreased significantly.She did have a seizure today,but was chasing a squirrel and running hard.It was a short seizure and she responded really quick.I started her on a different soft food,Blue,and the difference in her coat and overall appearance is amazing.Wish I had tried her on it long before now.anyway for now Misty is still with me,comfortable and happy.Her vet did do an x-ray to compare,and even though her little heart has gotten bigger her lungs are completely clear.He was amazed she didn’t have any fluid build up.I think the country air has been a key in keeping her lungs so strong,that and chasing squirrels.I discussed euthanasia with her vet and he asked me why since she was fine at the office.He assured me that if he was in my shoes he would continue her care,and would only euthanize her if she was suffering and in his opinion Misty was still treatable and happy.I have to say her vet care has been exceptional and they call regularly to check on”our baby”.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m so happy Misty is doing well. It sounds like she will be here for a long while yet. You are lucky to have a great vet. Give Misty a kiss from all of us.

  • Juliette says:

    I am really struggling with the recent death of my little 9 year old chihuahua x mini foxy. My little guy had been in and out of the ICU for two weeks with CHF. After 4 nights they gave him back to us apparently ‘stable’. But he was skin and bones, could hardly breathe and could hardly walk. I got such a shock when I saw him. He was obviously suffering and I knew the medication wasn’t working anymore. They kept giving us false hope telling us he was stable and eating which he clearly wasn’t.

    We only had him home for 18 hours before he went into respiratory distress. We rushed him back to the ICU where they put him in the oxygen tent. They insisted on doing a whole battery of tests like X-rays, bloods etc which at that stage were really unnecessary and I feel so stupid for agreeing. They told us he was breathing ok and to go home. Three hours later they rang me to get permission to euthanise him immediately as he had ‘suddenly decompensated’. He was in cardiac arrest before the end of that 2 minute phone call and died a horrible, frightening and painful death.

    My little dog was the most precious thing to me in the world and we didn’t even get to say goodbye. I had to leave him with them overnight because he died at 5pm on a Sunday and we couldn’t get in touch with the crematorium. I picked him up the next day in a white plastic bag cold and stiff from the ‘morgue’. I took him out of the bag at the crematorium and he still had the staples in his nose from were they had ventilated him. It was the worst experience of my life and something I feel I will never recover from. I am very angry that a cardiology specialist and ICU vet couldn’t see that my little dog was so sick. I feel like they just gave us false hope and I was too stupid and too desperate to keep my little guy alive to realise.

    My little guy was my constant companion and I feel extremely traumatised by all of this. More than anything I feel so sorry for our little dog. I really feel like I let him down and he died in deplorable (and avoidable) circumstances. I really don’t care about myself at all but I am 5 1/2 months pregnant so I have no choice but to try to get better as fast as I can. Everyone is now relying on me to give birth to a healthy, happy baby but I am completely heartbroken and unable to move forward.

    So many people feel so guilty after euthanising their pets. Believe me, you are the lucky ones. I am currently living the alternative and I wish I could have given my buddy the pain free, respectful death he deserved. Also we were promised 18 months from the cardiology specialist and barely got 3 months. He was on so much medication- Lasix, Pimobendan, Amlodipine, Fortekor, Codeine, Theophylline. He had side effects and I saw him get worse on the Pimobendan. All side effects were reported multiple times and ignored. We thought we were getting the best help for our little fur baby- I now feel very differently.

    I would encourage people to explore holistic remedies and if they have any doubts about their vet please, please get a second opinion as fast as you can. NO ONE knows your pet like you do. You are bonded to them and you are the best observer of their health. Don’t let your vet try to convince you otherwise. Don’t let your pet be treated with statistical evidence rather than individual evaluation. Trust your instincts, listen to your hearts and follow your gut.

    Good luck to everyone whose dog is suffering this horrible disease. I wish you all many more happy, healthy years with your pets.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Juliette, thank you so much for your story. I think it will help so many pet lovers who feel so much guilt when they have to put their pet down. It sounds like that cardiologist was just trying to make more money at your and Foxy’s expense. I’m positive your story can help many. Please take care so you can have a healthy delivery and perhaps another little guy when you are ready. Blessings to you and your unborn baby.

  • Dianna says:

    we have a almost 12 yr. old Chi. that just recently has been Dx with
    CHF. On vetmedin, lasix twice a day and benazapril. in addition to her medication we also put her on a cardiac diet.science diet has wet/dry food with almost no sodium in it. and she loves it. after we started adding up all the sodium in doggie treats her wet food and in the meat and cheese that we would roll her pills up in it was astounding. high levels of sodium given to dogs can make CHF worse just like in ppl. it has definetley made a difference!

    • Sue Huss says:

      You bring up a very good point Dianna, frequently we forget how many calories, sodium and even sugar is in some of the treats we feed our babies. I’m glad your baby is doing better.

  • Debra in Oregon says:

    Hello all – I have tears rolling down my face as I type this, having just found this site last night (actually at 2:00 am because I’m having difficulty sleeping.) We lost our beloved Maltese, Cooper, to CHF, pneumonia, bronchitis? last Tuesday 11/25/14. He was 10.5 years old and developed the nasty cough and goose honking like many of you have described. It was so weird, I brought him to the vet for his annual checkup and he asked if Cooper had started coughing as he detected a heart murmur. He wasn’t coughing then at all. But two days after that visit, the cough started. Cooper was put on the common CHF drug protocol and had multiple blood tests and x-rays. The vet determined his heart was enlarged, and they could see fluid in his lungs. Unfortunately, none of the medicines seemed to help his cough or his lungs. Cooper still ate his food and behaved like normal, so our vet wasn’t too concerned. I kept saying that nothing is helping him get better – should we be doing something different? The vet just kept changing heart meds and/or increasing doses…After nearly $2,500 in vet bills and medicines, Cooper went into respiratory distress early Tuesday morning. He had a rapid, shallow panting breath and he was panicking because he couldn’t get any air. I drove him to the vet ER as fast as I could but I wasn’t sure he was going to even make it to the hospital. He also began spitting up this pink frothy material which was scary. The poor baby was practically collapsed on the side of the car door trying to get more air from the wide open car window. I will never forgot the helplessness and guilt I felt – we had no idea he was so sick, or that his time was so short. It all happened so quickly. I could tell the ER Vet was quite concerned when she came to talk to me – her eyes said more than her words – I knew it was bad. Cooper was put in an oxygen cage and sedated because he was freaking out. I was totally there freaking out with him. He was then transferred to a specialist vet referral clinic (brand new, state-of-the-art facility) where they continued his emergency care.

    Unfortunately, he was not responding well to the medicines and they found that his bronchial tubes had collapsed. No way to repair and because he wasn’t responding to treatment, the vet suggested he be put to sleep. Cooper was put to rest around 7:30 pm that same evening. My two kids begged me to keep him alive overnight because they were so sure he was going to pull through by morning. When the vet called saying that Cooper was going downhill fast, I couldn’t bear to have him suffer any more, so I approved the euthanasia. One of the most difficult things I have ever done – and I have been through hell and back helping my two youngest kids survive pediatric cancers (they are young adults now.)

    I found it interesting that the specialist vet kept telling me that Cooper was not in heart failure. I’m not sure exactly what caused his bronchi to collapse and I was way too emotional to even comprehend what was being told to me. Since we didn’t get to say goodbye, my daughter and I got to hold his frozen body (which was nicely wrapped in a blanket) to say our final goodbyes. And then my son and daughter wanted to say goodbye one last time at the Crematorium before he was cremated. Very hard to see the sadness and guilt in my kids eyes as they have already been through so much. If we had known how sick Cooper was, we would have done things differently in his last days – but this is something we all have to deal with in our own way, in our own time.

    The empty void in our home is palpable – I haven’t had the energy or desire to put away any of his toys, food/water dish, pet beds…We couldn’t even celebrate Thanksgiving dinner until Sunday – and I’m still dealing with eyes that continue to leak….

    My husband read somewhere that grieving takes approximately 120 hours…that is such total BULL*&%$! Like some of you, I am dealing with guilt that I did not research his cough more, that I blindly trusted our family vet when Cooper’s cough did not improve, that I didn’t feed him the very best, natural foods, that I did not supplement his food with nutritional supplements. I don’t think we realize how much our furry companions fill our days with love and joy until it’s gone. No longer is “going to check the mail” or “taking out the garbage” have the same importance as it did when Cooper got so excited to do these simple, everyday things with me. He was the happiest and calmest when our four adult children were all home together…(sorry eyes leaking again….)

    Honestly, I’ve been feeling like our family just was not good enough for him – he loved so unconditionally his loss will haunt me forever.

    I’m trying to re-frame my depressed thoughts and be thankful for the wonderful 10.5 years we shared with him. I am so filled with gratitude that we were able to share his life with our family. We think his time was cut short but he was truly a blessing for our family, especially my two youngest cancer kids. Cooper knew when someone was not feeling well, knew when my kids were recuperating from their many hospital stays; he would actually worry about my daughter if she didn’t come home (like when she had sleepovers.) My daughter is having a hard time sleeping at night because Cooper always slept with her – she misses his breathing and warmth. And my son has lost his constant buddy. My son had a difficult childhood being diagnosed with a brain tumor at the age of ten; and all the surgeries and complications that resulted from the tumor. My son is now 26, and is stable, but he now suffers from some deficits and does not have any friends. Strong family connection helps him there, but Cooper was his only true friend. I’m trying to help them deal with their loss, but it’s something they have to come to terms with on their own, in their own time.

    And I made myself a promise that next time, I’ll do better. We have already begun looking for another male maltese puppy that can join our close-knit family. Allison on this site has some wonderful suggestions on homemade dog food and nutritional supplements that I am taking to heart. I will never go back to our old family vet as I have lost all trust in them, but any future pups will see the new vet that handled Cooper’s final hours with compassion and gentle care (along with that state-of-the-art facility!)

    I know some of you may think it is too soon for a new puppy but it is the one thing that has us thinking positively for the future. I was dreading the upcoming holidays, not even wanting to leave the house, go walking or go to my yoga classes. I feel lighter and hopeful as we might have a fluffy puppy in time for Christmas! I want and need no other gifts, because I cherish the joy and love that Cooper has given us; and all the priceless moments that a new furry companion will bring to our family.

    My son, daughter and I are planning a roadtrip this weekend to meet our prospective new puppy or puppies. Our family has so much love to share we may get two puppies! My husband is fully supportive of whatever decision we make because I think it has been very hard on him to see the genuine, constant sorrow and regret that we feel. He’s sad too, but he took the 120 hours thing to heart! And there is one amazing silver lining to our sad, tear-filled cloud – I have to say that grieving together with my son and my daughter has brought us even closer together.

    Thank you all for letting me share my LONG story. It is therapeutic to be able to share stories, to know others have gone through similar experiences with their beloved pets and that they truly understand how you feel. As of this moment, my eyes have stopped “leaking…” and I’m so glad I have found you! Thank you!

    • Sue Huss says:

      I too have tears when reading your story. I am so sorry for your loss. I do not think it is too early for another pet to share in your family’s love. I do believe any love that strong will return and I know when you get another dog you will be surprised when little things he does have you saying to yourself “That’s so like Cooper”. I have experienced this myself with my last two Pomeranians who have passed and come back to me in another body. And if only I believe this that’s O.K. because it gives me comfort and that’s all that really matters. I hope you will let us know when you get another pet. Blessings to all of you.

    • Shannon says:

      I am so sorry for your loss. Brought tears to my eyes at my desk at work. I have a 10 year old Chihuahua that was diagnosed over a year go with CHF. I am fostering him and he will stay with me for the rest of his life… however long that is. Fortunately for Memi the meds have been helping. I also try to give him the best of everything else… he eats Canine Life Muffins, natural supplements (coconut oil etc.), and I just started him on Dehydrated Red Beats which I read help people in heart failure, so I am hoping the same for him.
      He came to me over a year ago after 9 long years of neglect from his previous owners. They finally surrendered him at 9 years old. He was terrified of everyone and everything. I am spoiling him and giving him enough love to try and make up for those years he wasn’t with me. And I think he appreciates it. The vets never thought he’d be doing so well… I think he is happy so he is fighting a good fight!
      Please don’t feel guilty about what happened with Cooper! You did what you thought was best! Cooper can breathe deeply now and will wait for you all to meet again!
      I dread the day I have to say goodbye to Memi. The thought of him struggling to breathe terrifies me. It must have been so hard for you both, and I am sorry for that. Cooper knows he was loved and he knows you were trying to help him! There is no time limit on grieving so don’t pressure yourself with that. Everyone grieves differently.. you just do what you gotta do and that’s it!
      Good luck with the new pups!.. I bet Cooper loves that someone else will be there to love you all like he did!
      RIP little Cooper… until you meet again!

  • Annette H. says:

    So wonderful to have found a site where other pet parents of CHF pups can exchange tips, info, and comfort when that date with the inevitable rainbow bridge inevitably comes… My 13 y.o. terrier mix Aida (15 lbs) was diagnosed with Stage 3 murmur/enlargement about 2 years ago and had been stable on low sodium diet and Enalapril until late November. Now I can’t seem to get her coughing (intermittent) under control despite high doses of Lasix & Spirolactone. She was prescribed & will go on Pimobendan as soon as it arrives, so I am hopeful. Was searching for home/natural remedies while I wait for the package, and stumbled upon Allison’s list of supplements. Allison It would be fantastic if you see this post and could list the quantities of each supplement that you gave your 10 lb maltese Chase and how often! I printed out your list and and went shopping, but only human suggested dosages are given. Thanks!

  • Janice says:

    I have a 13 year chocolate cocker spaniel. Gibson was diagnosed about two years ago. Our vet is a good friend so I am very fortunate to have his ear whenever I want. The cough has changed in the last few weeks and I think he is having some trouble with his breathing. It breaks my heart to think that his time with me is coming to an end. We are going away for a week and I just don’t know if I should leave him with our sitter. She lives in our home to take care of him when we are away. I don’t know if it is fair to her. My gut tells me that we should help him to go to sleep. So hard to make this decision. . He is on all the meds that everyone has mentioned. He is still eating and does not leave my side. I sure do not want to end his life sooner than I have to.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Janice,

      I think you should go away as planned and just give your pet sitter a little extra for taking good care of Gibson. I really believe if any thing happens while your gone it is because Gibson has decided that leaving then would be easier on him and you. He surely must know how this is stressing you out. Have faith things will happen as they are suppose to happen. Blessings to you and Gibson.

      • Janice says:

        Our doctor changed some dosage of meds and coughing is much better today. He added Vetmedin. We still have 10 days before we leave so I’m hoping I will have an idea how this new med is working. I can’t tell you how much this website has helped me. Thank you. God is working through you to help others with this health issue that we share with our beloved pets. Merry Christmas to you. I will keep you posted on our baby.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thank you Janice for your kind words. I never expected so much of a response from my post. I hope your right and it has helped others. Try not to worry too much about Gibson on your trip. Happy New Year to you too.

  • Heidi Smith says:

    Hello! I just have to chime in on how crucial the right diet is. My Renny, a 13 year old Papillion was diagnosed with CHF and a significant murmur in November 2013. He was very lethargic, listless. He only wanted to be held and kept his head on my shoulder. I felt such distress. My lively, fun-loving little man was no more.

    After being on vetmedin and lisinopril for a full month he had made no improvement as the vet thought he would. However, after I started him on a raw food diet he began coming back alive! After just three days I saw a difference. After a week he was no longer listless. By the end of a month he was hopping around like a little bunny, eyes shiny and dancing! In fact, his energy level has been so high for the last year that he’s forever getting “romantic” with my female Papillion or a pillow, lol. He hadn’t been like that in years! And yes, they were both altered when young.

    But get this . . . the vet says it’s not the food! Insanity and denial! I saw his partner one day for Renny’s checkup and they readily agreed it was the diet change “it must be.”

    Note the precursor to treatment with herbs, cayenne and hydrotherapy. . . they MUST be on a raw food diet to for this to be effective!

    Best wishes!

    Heidi

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m glad your Renny is doing better although I feel a raw food diet is very controversial. Both my vets, a regular vet and a naturopathic vet I visit do not recommend it. I do believe real food such as organic meat cooked along with vegetables in a proper balance with supplements and probiotics can also help extend life. I can’t help but wonder what kind of food were you feeding Renny before you changed diets. Was it a product with by-products?

  • Carol says:

    Hi everyone. I need advice. Our little boy is a 12 year old miniature dachshund was diagnosed with an enlarged heart with fluid surrounding it. No heart murmur found. I took him to the vet right before thanksgiving because his breathing was snore like loud and he was throwing up white thick foam. Vet put him on lastix and Vetmedin. Vet thought we would see a huge improvement within a week. Nope. Took Spud back to vet increased lastix and in addition to the vetmedin but him on another heart pill. Enalapril. Spud kept getting sicker and sicker. He was not keeping them in and appeared to make him sicker then he was before. No coughing but stopped eating and lost another 2 pounds in that month between thanksgiving the Christmas. He is at 8 pounds. He used to be a chunk. Took him back into vet again and they put him on Mirtazapine, which increases his appetite, shot him up with vit B did IV fluids. If it were not for that pill Spud would not still be here today. Vet said on Monday Jan 5th that Spud was on a very slippery slope and he would either respond to the meds this week…. Or not. I was sure Spud was going to die Tuesday. He was so weak not eating or drinking. We continued the IV at home for another day but that was not going so well. Long story short. Spud will eat on his own now and drink but he throws up a lot. And the times when he is throwing up the white phelmy foam I think he is going to choke to death. If I could get this white foam stuff under control I might have a chance. My week is not up yet. Any suggestions and prayers would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Carol, I’m so sorry for what you are going through. I know vomiting white foam can be the result of so many things,what did your vet say it was from? As far as Spud not eating I can tell you my other Pomeranian all of the sudden became a very picky eater and would hardly eat even though I cook regular food for them. I found out that they make a product which is a high calorie booster gel. You can squeeze some on your finger and at least know that he is getting enough calories. I think it also is a appetite stimulant because several times when I used it my Pomeranian would decide to eat her food. Can you give him water in a syringe. Has your vet done any tests on him to figure out why he is vomiting the foam all the time?
      I’ve cared for a daschund for the last 5 years who has megaesophagus and her symptoms are so similar. Whenever she would drink too much she would vomit white foam.
      If it is by chance the same condition it is under control with steroids and the dog must eat in a upright position. I would hold her bowl up when she would eat so she would be leaning her two front paws on my leg. Please seek another vet if Spud is not helped.
      Let us know. Our prayers are with you.

    • christal says:

      Hello carol,
      I was drawn to your posts because it reminded me of myself just a few weeks ago..2 months ago I took my 5 year old Chihuahua to the vet because she kept making a awful sound like she had to cough somthing up..she had no interest in playing and just seem sick..first vet said allergies and this was the same vet since she was born after a month i wasnt happy with the way she was doing decided another vet and this time the awful news CHF ..within a few days rushed to vet she wasnt acting right and was told the same as you..increase meds and see how would react but it would only be a temp fix and she would never get better…the selfish part of me was willing to do whatever to keep her alive…medication every 4 hours…had to tear food into tiny pieces and feed her or it would get stuck and she would end up choking and would also have the foam problem real bad..lost so much weight she weighed 3 lbs healthy and drop to 1 1/2..I thought we had finaly got her stable and even made a comment to a friend how she was improving when that night it all changed and in the end my molly had passed..if anything i.wish i knew then what i know now..it was the most horrible thing to go through it wasnt like they just go to sleep..i wish i would have not been selfish and try to hold on..and also would have been better prepared for what comes after..i hope your baby takes to the medicine but remember they never get better they just maintain once diagnosed..

      • Sue Huss says:

        I think everyone including myself just thinks if they can just find the right supplement or the right diet even the right vet our babies will be cured when sometimes it’s just their time to leave us. We need the strength to let them go.

  • Amy Greer says:

    Hi again everyone,
    I wrote after my Chihuahua Priscilla passed from CHF in May. I have since adopted a Chihuahua (Roxy) from a local shelter. Just my luck she also has Tracheal collapse, as my Priscilla did, along with a slightly enlarged heart. I had Xrays done. Vet didn’t think it warranted meds yet but I’m not so sure & am getting very concerned. She coughs a lot, more so than my Priscilla did. Priscilla used to have the honking, loud cough from the Tracheal collapse. Roxy does that sometimes but she also coughs daily, a slight, dry, hacking kind of cough, usually a light cough. It’s similar to what my other dog Brady does, whom has a stage 2 murmur. Sometimes she’ll have a day where she has coughing spells several times a day & others it’s just a few times, but rarely does she have a day with no coughing. This is very bothersome to me & I’m going to bringing her back to the vet. Actually I’m looking into a holistic vet. My question to all of you is, do you have any suggestions for supplements? Also, are there a lot of side effects from heart meds? I don’t want to give her something that will cause more problems. On the other hand I don’t want to wait & not have her on anything only for her to end up with her lungs filled with fluid. That’s what happened to my precious Priscilla. I would’ve given anything to have known sooner & had the chance to help her. I miss my baby girl so much. ):
    I currently give Roxy CoQ10 daily, Niacinamide for blood flow & fish oil. She seems to have poor blood circulation & occasionally gets black crusty spots form on her ear tips. From my research & the vets input I’ve gathered it’s likely Eartip Vasculitis. So the Niacinamide helps. I also put coconut oil on it when she has a flare up.
    Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated.
    I also need to have her teeth cleaned but am a bit concerned about general anesthesia. Her teeth are pretty brown & it’s apparent they weren’t taken care of. So they should be done.
    Thanks for listening guys.
    Amy

    • Amy Greer says:

      I forgot to mention… Roxy also vomits foam sometimes too. Wretches, then just foam comes out & some liquid. I noticed it happens less when she eats more frequently & I make a point of giving her a couple treats first thing when I get up before her breakfast.

      • Sue Huss says:

        That is interesting vomiting foam is what the last comment was about. I wonder how many others experience this problem. Perhaps if anyone has had this problem and what they did to help it will please leave us a comment it would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Amy,
      It seems you are giving Priscilla quite a few supplements already. I think finding a naturalpathic vet to give you suggestions on what supplements might help Roxy is really a good idea. Depending where you live this can be a problem finding one. I personally travel 50 minutes to the naturalpathic vet I see. Of course I have a close vet to me also whom I usually go to first.
      I understand your concern about cleaning Roxy’s teeth, my vet could not clean my Precious’s teeth because of the anesthesia and her having CHF but somehow he was able to clean them a little without putting her to sleep. I don’t know if that would work with all dogs she had an exceptional temperament. While I’m not a big fan of the product they do make a product you put in dogs water that is suppose eliminate plaque and tarter. Hope this helps a little. Good luck and please keep us informed on what you discover about supplements.

      • Amy Greer says:

        We just got back from the vets. The xrays showed she actually does NOT have tracheal collapse, as formerly thought. Her heart is enlarged so vet believes it is her heart condition that’s causing the coughing. Darn it! I have to have an ultrasound done now to find out exactly what’s going on. Then we can see what, if any, meds she needs. I just hope & pray it’s not real bad & can be treated at least enough to extend her life & give her comfort. I’ve only had her 6 months & am already so attached to her. She is VERY attached to me. Loves me dearly, follows me everywhere, always in my lap. My devoted little companion. She really helped me a lot after I lost my Priscilla. I miss Priscilla daily & still beat myself up over not having all these tests done with her. Perhaps I could’ve prevented her death. Maybe she’d still be with me.
        The comment you made Sue really helps, although painful to think about. You said “I choose to believe our baby’s leave us to make room for a new pet that needs us.”
        Had Priscilla not passed when she did I wouldn’t have been looking for another baby & wouldn’t have found Roxy. Roxy had been in the shelter 2 wks. & shelter was full. This is a shelter in MD that has a very high euthanasia rate. The animal rescue I work with takes dogs from there. Roxy was an owner surrender so she could’ve been put down at any time. Plus she no applications on her. Also, I can’t help but think if someone else adopted her, with her condition & fears/separation anxiety/behavior issues, they would likely have brought her back. Which means she may have been put down. Soooo…. it probably worked out the way it was supposed. Roxy was meant to be with me. Although I can’t help but feel it’s unfair I adopted a dog that has the same issue my dog had I just lost. ): How bad does that suck? I want to get another Chihuahua, from a wonderful breeder I know in Maine, but feel a bit guilty about it. That’s the reason I adopted rather than buying. I work in rescue. It didn’t seem right or ethical to buy when there’s all these dogs in shelters. However, when you adopt from a shelter you don’t know what you’re getting & it can be very costly, emotionally & monetarily. I want a dog, a puppy, that I get the right way this time. From a great breeder, with show quality dogs, a health guarantee, been tested for genetic conditions, the parents have been tested, decades back. I feel guilty a bit as it seems like I’m saying “this dog is defective, I’m going to get a better one.”
        There’s no way I’ll give up on Roxy. I will love her, treat her, give her the absolute best care & life I can. But after what I just went through & am now going through with Roxy I feel a bit cheated. Priscilla was only 10 when she died. I thought I’d have her until she was at least 15. Chihuahuas are the longest lived breed, usually. Also, Roxy has NOT bonded with my pitbull Brady. My Priscilla was VERY close to him. They were buddies. She slept on his back. Roxy tolerates him, but will never snuggle with him. Brady misses Priscilla. I think Brady & I both need a baby, we can raise that will bond with both of us. (:
        Thanks for listening.
        I have the ultrasound scheduled for Roxy Tues. the 20th. Please keep us in your prayers. I am so worried about her. Trying to be strong. Spending me time looking for a part time job to help with the bills. Thank God for Care Credit.
        I’ll update with the ultrasound results.
        Blessings to you all. Stay strong. I’m so glad we have this site & the support. Thank u Sue

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Amy, I glad anything I said could help you. I often wonder why I ended up adopting another Pomeranian with so many problems also. I’ve been calling her my little lemon. I guess we took such good care of our last baby the universe decided we would be a good pet parent to care for the one we now have.
          I’m convinced the new puppy you are meant to have is still in the future. You just have to help Roxy first have the best life with you.
          Don’t feel guilty about wanting a healthy dog caring for a sick dog with CHF or some other serious condition is extremely stressfull as we all know here. I hope the ultrasound goes well. Let us know.
          Blessings to you and Roxy.

    • Moira says:

      We have a 14 year old Shih Tzu with heart disease. When she was diagnosed, I did alot of searching on the internet for natural solutions and came across a product Throat Gold for Dogs and Cats – A Natural, Herbal Supplement – Soothes Cough & Throat 2 Ounces” target=”_blank”>. She’s just been on the drops for 5 days, but she has not had the cough since she started on the drops. The many reviews look promising. We’ll see how it works.

  • Carol says:

    Thank u for getting back to me Sue. Vet said from the x rays it is CHF and his foam is a result of complications that comes with that. Liquid pooling around his heart. But I don’t hear alot of people on here complaining that this foam thing is a huge problem for them. Vet did not hear a murmur. Most CHF seems they do. Spud has had a world of health issues sence he was a baby. Nothing life threatening really. He has had 2 breast reductions fatty cysts and a toe removed and teeth pulled many times and eye problems. He’s a piebald with blue eyes. I will research what u said about megaesophagus. Spud just ate a decent dinner and do far is keeping it in. We have to time when he can have water or he looses everything. I’ll get some of that gel too. Thank God… And thank u. This is the second vet we have gone too. First one said he is 12 and life span is about 12.3 but if we wanted him too he would run a battery of tests and go from there. We ran to another vet. Thank u for having this site so we can help each other with our furry best friends.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I too have never heard of that problem but your vet should know especially since he took
      x-rays. Perhaps people reading this who have also experienced this issue could drop you a line. I would of ran to another vet also. Why would he say Spu is 12 and his lifespan is 12.3 implying you are just wasting your time. This comment makes me want to scream. Keep in touch.

    • Laurel says:

      Hi Carol,

      I am sorry you are having such a difficult time and am sending you support and love for your furry one.

      Are you seeing a veterinary cardiologist?

      I had to put my Sophia down 6 months ago from CHF, but the veterinary cardiologist made all the difference in her quality of life and care, especially during the last year.

      Laurel

  • Carol says:

    Hi Laurel, can u tell me what the Cardiolost did to help your baby? And if u don’t mind me asking….when did u know enough was enough. I don’t know how much to put him through.
    Thanks for your support.
    Carol

    • Laurel says:

      I don’t mind responding, Carol. I was so grateful for the support I felt in just reading the site when I first found it, with tears streaming, many months ago. It is a gift to have the support of others who care and understand.

      I posted here on June 29, 2014 and again on July 4th. If you scroll upwards you can easily find those posts and they may answer more of your questions.

      Had I not had Sophia treated by the cardiologist, however, I doubt I would have had her for that entire last year.

      About five months after she was diagnosed I nearly lost her. The cardiologist not only saved her, she was hospitalized in an oxygen tent, but she was able to stabilize her medications so that her symptoms were managed well and she was once again my “happy girl.”

      The extensive training they have was evident to me, and it definitely impacted Sophia’s quality of life, as well as prolonged her life. It was worth every visit, every penny.

      I do not know exactly how I knew “when” it was time, but I knew. Just trust in yourself and you will know.

      All the Best Wishes,

      Laurel

  • Carol says:

    Hey Laurel I thought more about my question about how did u know. You do not need to answer that. That’s personal. I did a bunch more research and have a better idea about that. I’m sorry I asked. But if u can share what the Cardiolost did to help I’d be grateful..

    Thank you so much
    Carol

  • Shannon says:

    Carol, don’t apologize. You were just looking for support and comfort. I think it’s a personal thing as in.. you know your dog like no one else does.
    I wish you and your pup the best. And always remember.. you will meet again!

  • Janice says:

    Vetmedin has made a huge difference in our cocker spaniel. We were so close to putting him down. Our doctor asked us to try this. His coughing has stopped totally and he is so much more energetic. I know this is not a cure but it sure is wonderful to have our baby back.

  • brandi says:

    Hello all,

    I would just like to start by saying I have spent all morning/afternoon reading every single post here trying to take in all the advice that has been shared for a pet with CHF.

    I had 2 yorkies however my female passed away unexpededly at the end of November. She was completely fine the day before and fine when I left for work, but when my husband woke up (he was off that day) he found her curled up not breathing. I say she was fine but she would sometimes cough when she tried to bark and had become very lethargic, got cold often, but I never thought anything of it because she was just so little but looking back I’m sure it was her heart.

    A week after she passed, my other yorkie, her brother, started acting really lethargic and his breathing was at like 50 breaths per minute. He did eat a cupcake wrapper the afternoon it started happening so I figured it was that and when I got him home that night he threw it up but his breathing never got better. Monday I took him to the vet and the vet thought it may be CHF and prescribed Lasix, however I didn’t give it to him that night, thinking we would start it in the morning at by 5 a.m. he had severely labored breathing. Rushed him back to the vet Tuesday morning and the vet was sure we were losing him, put him on a lasix IV and 15 minutes later his breathing was much improved. We then put him on medication for bronchitis and pnemonia just in case and kept him on lasix.

    After Christmas we got a second opinion and decided to have him checked out by a cardiologist and he got an echocardiogram done. The cardiologist said he couldn’t find any major heart problems aside from a level 3 heart murmur but instead thought it was an airway disease and took him off of lasix, put him on theopoline and some other meds. After 4 days of this (this past Friday)his breathing took a turn for the worse and I started giving him the lasix, took him in for a lasix shot and we got his breathing back to normal.

    My vet called the cardiologist that afternoon to say she feel like he missed something and spoke to him along with his collegue and upon review they both believed he could have a torn chordae tendineae and put him on Vetmedin. I started the Vetmedin Friday night and his breathing is the best I have seen it since early December and he finally does not look uncomfortable when he sleeps. However, it has caused him to be extremely sleepy and lose his appiteite however he did take quite a bit of boiled chicken for me today.

    I’m pleased with his breathing on the Vetmedin however he is so lifeless I wonder if it is worth it if it is just going to make him a walking zombie? Does it get better after his system adjusts to it?

    I am also heading to the grocery store to pick up meats, brown rice, vegetables so I can try to get him to eat tonight.

    Anyone have any supplements I should give to him? So far from reading this fish oil has really stood out. He is only going to be 9 in May, I’m not ready to let go and aside from elevated breathing and a little less active he has not had any other crazy symptoms.

    Any help or support is greatly appreciated, this is such a scary and stressful road to go down especially after having lost my little girl so recently :(

  • Sarah says:

    Hi. I’ve just read all the comments and its so good to hear everyone’s stories and the support offered.
    Almost 4 years ago I had to make the heart breaking decision to say goodbye to my beloved Springer spaniel Dexter. He had battled with CHF for 18 months after being given a prognosis of 6 weeks. It is so true that you know when the time is right to say goodbye and he sure as hell put up a fight!
    I’m gutted to say that my Springer bitch is now displaying the same early symptoms. You’d think it would be easy to take her to the vet seeing as I’ve been here before…..but I’m terrified! She is such a lively girl for 12 and, having rescued her from horrific conditions at 2, I know that we have given her a wonderful life; but it doesn’t make it any easier.
    Strangely though, having written this down, I now feel better. Thank you for sharing all your stories. Remember fondly those pups who have passed on and treasure those still with us. X

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Sarah, thanks for sharing your story. I’m sorry you have to go through this so soon again. I think there are so many pet owners including myself who find themselves caring for another pet requiring extra care because of their many problems. My newest Pomeranian that I rescued after Precious died has been to the vet so many times with different issues, I have started calling her fondly my little lemon. I often wonder why so many dogs are developing CHF among other things. I can tell you dogs I had back in my 20’s (that was 40 years ago) always seemed to die of old age. My Pomeranian I had back then lived to be 17 and was never sick. Oh well, sorry for going off on a tangent but I guess it helps me also to express my thoughts. Blessings to you and your Springer.

  • Annette H. says:

    LESSON LEARNED (the hard way)- Be careful giving your CHF dog a bath! Mine has been stable on Pimobendan & Enalipril, with Lasix 2-3 times per week as needed. The day before yesterday, she got into something “unmentionable” in the back yard and I promptly put her in the sink to bathe. The water was on the warm side, but not hot, and she became lethargic during the bathing – conscious, but almost so relaxed I had to hold her upright. Looking back I realize this was hypotension from blood vessels dilating in response to the warm water. I towel dried her immediately, but the damage was done – despite double doses of Lasix, she is having coughing spells that can last an hour or more several times per day. Hoping I can get her re-stabilized soon – it is such a fine line to cross into decompensation!

  • Carol says:

    Good morning fellow dog lovers. First time I posted was jan 11. My lil Spud is still amongst the living. We took him off all meds. He was getting so sick and loosing so much weight. He threw up all the pills anyway. He rallied for about a week eating on his own and even kind of begging. Well that has not lasted. I have cooked him everything under the sun to get him to eat. Sometimes I can get life cereal, Chinese food,and beef soup in him. The white foam has stopped. Now if I’m not right by his side he well throw up everything I worked so hard to get in him. Here is a strange thing I have been doing. When he starts to gag I put two fingers on the side of his neck and apply a small amount pressure. It seems to stop the progression of the gag and then I can feel the gurgle as it goes back down. So after he eats I hold him on my chest in a upright position ready to stop the gag. I know this is all temporary. I know he will not be healthy again. We are a hospice house right now. Spud does not seem to be in pain but I know he does not feel well. But the wag in his tail keeps my Husband in denial. He feels very strongly to have him pass on his own. I do not feel the same way….but for now doing it his way. Just sharing if it helps anyone out there. Love to all.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Carol, I’m glad you have figured a way to help Spud keep his food down. If he has been loosing weight you might consider what I mentioned to previous pet lover. Get some of that high calorie supplement found here Enercal High Calorie Gel – 5 oz. Tube” target=”_blank”>that you only need a little and hopefully he can at least stop loosing weight.

    • Christine says:

      Hi Sue, Carol, and everyone else here! I, too am so glad to have found this supportive site. I have a Jack Russell, Britty who is 15, diagnosed with chf about 18 mos ago, but for a long time was stabilized with the same 3 meds mentioned here (enalapril, furosemide, and vetmedin). Last night was terrible, she is coughing very frequently and can’t sleep ( neither can I, she sleeps with me).
      Where I’m at is hoping she will rebound once again, as she has the last year with the vet and I tweaking her meds dosages. She is at the upper limit of safe dosages of all meds.
      At 5 am today I turned on my bedroom light, and the ceiling fan and opened the bedroom door and that seemed to ease her cough for about 2 hrs (????why?) so we both had a little sleep. I tried giving her a little Cesar wet food and she ate eagerly in the night( to see if it might “snap her out of” her coughing spells- sometimes distraction helps!, and she even stopped coughing for a while! (I’ve found the Cesar wet food in the little squarish containers, about a teaspoon scoop of it work best for the pills, if you keep it in the frige it’s firmer for pushing the pills into, and I follow it up with another smaller piece of Cesar as a chaser, she swallows the first “spoonful” with her pills pushed in much faster when she knows there’s another bite to come. Also the vet told me the Vetmedin, a large capsule, is to be given on an empty stomach!!!! twice a day. Impossible, I found older dogs know all the tricks and it’s impossible to force it down with conventional methods. She knows it’s coming and runs away, So I give the vetmedin with a little Cesar with her other pills.) It’s like trial and error, I never know what will help. She is also on 2 other meds for arthritis, Metacam and TriActa. Sometimes I feel like I’m going crazy. ( I also have a 4 yr old JRT with diabetes, so there’s her diet and insulin and tests on going too).
      Just want to mention, something that has helped a lot with Britty, the 15 yr old with chf, is to proactively remove all salt from her diet- we used to do the peanut butter thing for her pills, or liverwurst (really bad I’ve heard), even dog biscuits and treats have salt (some). When we cook bacon, or other meats she comes and wants some and we’ve stopped giving her that. She still likes the dried chicken, liver, or duck that’s available now for a treat.
      I realize this post is all over the place, and I apologize! I’m just so glad to have read these posts on this site, and know I’m not crazy, or alone! People tell me I’m crazy to spend so much $ and energy on a dog and should put her down, she’s going to die anyway. But she has responded to treatment for 18 mos.quite well. I’m on a fixed income and it’s a strain but I feel I want to care for her thoroughly til the end. I’m not going to start into specialist visits and extensive tests for her, just what I can for as long as she responds to treatments, and seems happy with her life. (mostly lol). My observations with Britty:
      -appetite still amazingly strong
      -hot, humid weather triggers her coughing, use fans or a/c
      -no salt
      -incontinent at night about 1-2 x a wk, also daytime. Proactively taking her out in the night when I’m up for the washroom anyway helps decrease peeing in bed. (Standing outside in the dark at 3 am, waiting for her to finish peeing is a nightly thing)
      -excitement triggers cough, like me leaving and returning home, or change in her routine, or thunderstorms
      -definitely find a vet who will take time to explain and discuss, even over the phone at times….I changed vets til I found a good one. They do exist. And make a list of questions when you go
      -and yes, episodes of worsening cough so often seem to happen on weekends and holidays! wonder why?
      Anyway I’m so relieved to have found this support, Right now Britty is sitting here nice and calm, no cough or distress, while I feel like a zombie from lack of sleep and stress!
      So many times Britty has rebounded, it’s such a preoccupation though, and emotionally draining. Her unconditional love and loyalty make it all worth it, to do all I’m able to for her.
      Thanks for listening!
      Christine in Ontario

  • Pat says:

    I have just come across this website and glad I am not alone. Our Maggie, 12 yrs old Mini Schnauzer just was diagnosed with CHF, severe heart disease, Enlarged heart, stage 5 of heart Murmur. On Heart meds, lasix that makes her pee like a horse! Don’t know how long she has with us but being that bad off I am preparing myself for the worse……Which frighten’s me & and my hubby.
    in Diapers but really don’t work if she has to pee so much. However, we now are taking her out about every 3 hours. She is stable and responding to meds so far. Hard to keep a Schnauzer quiet as she is supposed to but she does get tired. Our only problem is leaving her in the crate all day when we are at work as we are trying to come up with a solution for her bedding in the crate. Come home everyday this week to her bed being soaked, washing it every day but don’t mind the washing just don’t like her sitting in her wet bed. We don’t leave a diaper on her in crate because why bother. Looking at elevated beds online that lets to pee go to the bottom of crate and away from her skin. But then there is no room for water bowl. Thought of a water bottle like puppies would use but would she get enough water from that? Any suggestions in for the crate? Wonder if I should ask the Vet if she has any other suggestions for lasix? I read early on in the posts about someone reducing the amount of Lasix? I know she just started the meds since the last weekend and the Vet at Emergency says we should give it some time.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat,
      How about using a really large crate like one for large dogs and having her bed in one half of it and the half could be where she pees. Maybe you could use pee pads. There would be room for water also. Use a small bed in crate not blankets that could be dragged to other side. I don’t think she would pee in her bed if she had room to pee outside of it. Hope this is helpful.

      • Pat says:

        Sue, Thanks for your advice. We do have a large crate but not enough room for a bed, pee pad & water bowl. However, the very next size up I will have to see. Then maybe I could put a small bed not blanket and would have more room? Have to go do some measurements again. When she was in the oxygen chamber it was bigger than her crate and they had bedding on one side & pee pad on other. Thanks so much!

      • Tracy close says:

        Hi sue I have been reading all the post and surprised nobody’s mention herbal remedies. I did loads of research on heart failur and tracular collapse. And found a website called paw healer they have some herbal tablets called heart tonic and they have made his life a lot easier less coughing.It is a American website with good reviews.I am in Yorkshire in England.Pawhealer is for all different animal problems.hope this might help some of the people’s pets you talk to.They have worked well for my Yorkshire terrier Tiny who was diagnosed last April . Tracy Close

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Tracy, I am aware and purchased these products. Unfortunately it comes in a powder form to add to dog’s food and my dog would not eat her food with it on it. I wish it came in pill form so I could hide it in a pill pocket.

          • Jen says:

            I thought I would leave an update from my last post months ago.

            After a very hard year Beau finally passed with help and returned to spirit on December 28, 2015. He had an amazing month, and was actually doing so well but the coughing was getting worse and we knew it was coming. We both felt so blessed he was able to enjoy Christmas and I let him play all he wanted and the pictures we took were some of the happiest I had seen him all year. Around 1 am 28th he was panting uncontrollably and his eyes were bulging. I said my goodbyes and he went to the er vet to see if there was anything left to do. He was in oxygen for about an hr and improved slightly, and suddenly he was at the point where he could not breathe without an actual oxygen mask on. It all happened so fast and he passed so peacefully.

            Two weeks prior he had seen two of the best holistic and partially holistic vets in the area. He was tested and found that he had high levels of heavy metals in his body. I had not vaccinated him since he went into heart failure and the only vaccines he did receive were rabies every few years, but due to the possibility of some reactions I did not think vaccines were worth the risk.

            Obviously I am not a doctor but I have to share this part of the story before someone else makes a mistake they cannot take back. With the titer test he had already passed with enough levels. In the state of Ma and RI there is a waiver a vet can use for rabies if your dog is not 100 percent healthy. Heart murmur counts for this. According to both vets we saw, when beau had been diagnosed with a low grade murmur that original holistic vet should have never vaccinated him after. The worst part was is that his original vet was “holistic”. She even tried to get us to vaccinate him after he went into heart failure the first time. His cardiologist also noted that is a known side affect that vets are aware of. I cannot place blame on any person. Although she left her practice after 20 years without notice to any of her patients. I realize now something was very off.

            We were told he had to have his rabies and that it was the law, ultimately we confirmed it. There is no saying whether or not he would have gone into full blown heart failure a few months after but my other small yorkie who received the oral vaccine (because it was supposed to be better for a small dog) weeks later was in the er vet with stomach problems and his perfectly healthy teeth were rotting. He lost 6 teeth total. We feed our dogs organic, raw and freeze dried. My house is entirely non toxic, even the furniture and I am convinced these vaccines did a lot of damage and no other factors. Our other two dogs have not had any vaccines in years and have come out 100 prevent healthy every 6 month checkup and blood test. That was the first vaccine my yorkie and beau had recieved in years, normally we take them in two at a time. After Oliver lost his teeth I decided not to vaccinate my other two.

            Beau’s new vet wrote and signed the waiver for him and told us if we wanted they cannot force us to ever use a vaccine on our dog again. That is a personal decision we each have to make. But had I have known that a dog with a heart murmur (even low grade) can die or go into heart failure after receiving a vaccine I obviously would not have given it to him despite this “law”.

            Beau was on herbals given to him by one holistic vet who used blood work and muscle testing, incorporating Chinese herbs. He was on oils, spark powder, cardiac support as well as vetmedin, viagra, enalipril (spelling?) and lasix. He was known as the miracle dog for defying the odds of his cardiologist and other vets which I know his herbs helped. I saw a comment on using herbs and I have to note that although I did hundreds of hours of research and used pet well being as well as paw healer and another site, I was not an expert and it was not until he saw a specialist that the real results came. There were certain herbs he could not be on while taking any meds and certain herbs his body wouldn’t react well to, or didn’t sit well with him and she was able to see that in his tests vs just my observations.

            I must say I thought my life would never go on (not really but I sure didn’t know how I’d manage) without my best friend who passed only a month after his 7th birthday, but within a few weeks I found a sense of peace realizing he wasn’t suffering anymore and taking comfort in that has made a huge difference in this house. I am so lucky I had the time I did and if you focus on that it makes all of the difference. For the last three months of his life he lived every day like it was his last and we made sure of that so in the end there were no regrets on how happy we made him. At some point the end comes for us all, so take all of the pictures you can, make the memories count no matter their health status is, and realize after it’s all done, peace can and will be found again. You absolutely have to give them a happy life while they are still here so I made sure to keep my house as joyful as I could so that he knew he was loved. Watching him suffer for the past year and losing my best friend was the hardest thing in the world, but I am glad to know I have a fur angel watching over me now.

            I send so much love to those of you going through the same thing. I tried convincing myself he could be the exception, live ten years and defy all odds. This is a cruel disease, there are no words for how horrible it truly is. All we can do is love them with all our hearts until they make their way to spirit once again.

  • Pat says:

    It’s me again. We are trying out a bigger crate as you suggested Sue. we will see how that works. However, over the weekend maggie developed a rash starting on her back. She is a White Schnauzer and you can see her skin being even more pink too. On the heart meds and lasix. Wonder if the meds are giving her a rash? She is going to the Vet today as my hubby is taking her. So, we shall see. Maggie has been waking up more because she is uncomfortable besides having to pee more. Wonder if we should put her in the crate with her pee pad at night without the diaper. Only thing is our other dog Molly might want to go on it too and make her think she can go potty in her crate. Right now they both sleep in the bed with us. Might just have to resort to Maggie being crated at night so we can all sleep. It has been very stressful. I hope the Vet today has some ideas for us and help her with her rash.

  • Pat says:

    Better news…..Our Maggie has a slight reaction to meds that could cause her skin to look so pink as the blood is pumping in her heart really well with help of meds. Vet said that it could be her body just adjusting to it all and prescribed her with some Dog Antihistamine & she had wax build up in her ear they cleaned out. So, she sleep better last night and so did we!

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m glad you guys are getting some rest now. Blessings to both of you.

      • Pat says:

        Thank you Sue. Maggie is stable with the meds but sometimes she is restless at night when we are sleeping or jumps down from bed to drink water so I am not getting proper sleep as every time she moves i wake up. And I am a heavy sleeper. Must be the Doggie mommy in me:)

        • Sue Huss says:

          At least she is able to get up and drink her water by herself. My Pomeranian was too small to jump up or down on my bed so in the middle of the night she would wake up and get right next to your face and stare. You know that feeling when someone is staring at you. I would have to reach down and get her water dish so she could drink and then she would let me go back to sleep. Either way neither of us gets much sleep right?

    • Lisa says:

      All of these posts are so wonderful and helpful. We adopted Molly a cocker spaniel from the shelter in December. It took us a week to figure out she was deaf because she is so loving. Her teeth were super horrible so we took her to get them cleaned and they had to pull 14 of them! Shortly after that visit We found a vet we wanted to use for our normal vet and they diagnosed her as having a slight heart murmur guessed her age to be around 10 years old. She had zero symptoms this whole time. A couple of weeks later I noticed Molly breathing really fast and coughing after drinking some. Took her back to vet and they diagnosed her as stage 4 heart murmur and CHF. They put her on lasix once per day and promised to send me results of all the tests the put her through. Well after a week we still hadn’t gotten any results and Molly had another respiratory distress episode so we took her to the emergency vet and they were so much better! They put Molly on Vetmedin and Enalipril along with increasing her Lasix. My first vet finally sent us her results along with two other patients test results. We fired that vet and made the emergency vet our primary. Molly has her good days and bad days now. She seems to be somewhat incontinent when she sleeps. We had her on Science Diet for small dogs – dry, and then tried her on a cheaper food and she started having lots of coughing, vomit,lethargy and breathing distress. I did some research and noticed some mention of low sodium diet helping. I found a list on a vet school website that had Science Diet sensitive skin/stomach as one of the lowest sodium dry commercial foods available. The difference was almost immediate! Molly is so good about taking her pills that we just throw them in her dog food and she gobbles them up. If she misses one of the tiny lasix pills I usually put a small smear of peanut butter in her bowl and stick the pill in it. I firmly believe that all this CHF problems started with the anesthesia and teeth cleaning when we first got her. And I also believe that finding her new vet has changed her life. Sorry for the book but I wanted to share in hopes it can help someone like the posts above helped me.

  • Donna Fox says:

    My dog max is a brindle pit bull and eight years old. He has always been there for me now it is my turn. As I write this he has been diagnosed with CHF in october 2014. He is on vetmedin, 2 diareutics, and another pill twice a day. He coughs some and is doing well but he has had to be drained twice the prescription dog food is for heart and is 70 a bag but seems to help keep usm in your prays as I will your alls.

  • Pat says:

    So Maggie has to be taken out 2-3 times during the night to pee. We have to set the alarm and take turns. It has affected my sleep as not getting my proper sleep time. I could try putting the dogs in their crate at night and let her pee on pee pads and / or her bed as she sometimes leaks on her bed. But the two dogs have always been in the bed with us and afraid Maggie would get stressed out causing a heart attack. I about fall asleep going to work today too! Any suggestions for at night?

    • claudette says:

      I know about losing sleep due to the lasix!My Misty sleeps with me and in bed I use the washable baby water proof blankets.She hated the plastic disposable ones,and will only use them if they are on the floor.Hope this helps.Its so hard at times,but everyday I have left with her is a blessing.God bless you and hang in there.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat,
      I understand more than you know about doing the best for your Maggie, but you have to think about your health also. Without you where would Maggie be? Can you put a crate in your bedroom right next to your bed so they can see you. I think if they have each other Maggie will not be so stressed out that you have to worry any more than you already are doing. They may cry at first because they are used to sleeping in your bed, but you have to be strong and just tell them “it’s ok just go to sleep”. I promise you this has worked more than a few times for me. I’ve been a pet sitter for 12 years and many pets I watch for several days are used to sleeping with their owner. Naturally they want to sleep with me in my bed but it is already filled to capacity with my 3 dogs. So I put a dog bed next to my bed and just keep telling them to get in their bed. It may take a lot of patience the first night because they are used to getting their own way but I promise you the second day it will be much easier. I hope this helps you. Blessings to you and Maggie.

      • Pat says:

        Sue, I appreciate you caring and for my health too! I think I am going to give something like that a try and see if it works for her. I have too big of a crate to put next to the bed as we got a bigger one to put her pee pads in. She wets those but sometimes or most times leaks onto her bed too in crate when we leave her there during the day when we are at work. But the crates are in our bedroom so maybe her knowing were are there steps away in front of the bed and maybeshe will get use to it. Blessing right back at you!

    • Christine says:

      Something I do that helps some for my 15 yr old Jack Russell who is sometimes incontinent at night- all 3 of my JRTs sleep in bed with me. What I started doing is put 1 or 2 dog beds in my bed beside me, cover with a waterproof pad/blanket and then another sm blanket or towel. Luckily, Britty, with her chf prefers to sleep in the dogbed in my bed, and not directly on my mattress (usually lol) and this helps keep my part of the bed dry. You have to have space in your bed though for the dogbeds.

      • Bless all of you! I have been down the same road with my sweet Dusti (A tiny maltese) It was heart retching and made me cry over and over, but now that she’s gone, I would do it all over again in a heartbeat. She brought me so much joy & I tried to bring her all of the comfort I possibly could in her last days. She was my little angel & will forever remain in my heart.

  • Pat says:

    Well, the dog crate thing did not last. We caved in last night and let the two dogs back in the bed with us as they were stressing licking an scratching making too much noise stressing us out. So, now we leave Maggie with diaper on and if she gets up with wet diaper during night I am just going to change it like a baby and have her come back to sleep instead of taking her outside. They were so happy to be back in the bed with us last night she only got up once.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat, sorry that did not work for you. I am happy to hear it has been a little easier on you. If the diaper works for you that’s great, do you use pads inside of diaper like human female menstrual products. That could keep her dryer longer.

  • Pat says:

    Maggie is sleeping better in the bed with us. But have noticed she is sleeping more & tired more. Think that is sign of getting worse?

  • Nate says:

    Well at 12:30 today I have to take my 11 year old Boston Terrier to the vet to see what we can do. About two months ago he was diagnosed with CHF. He’s on all the similar medicines spoken of above. I took him to our vet to board for the weekend and got him back in bad shape. He was fine when I took him there, but when I picked him up he was very frail. They promised me they had given him his medicine as I required them to. He’s just not doing well now. I am afraid of what’s to come at 12:30. Everyone here understands the best friend factor. That’s exactly what he has been for me. We’ve been through a lot together. I was hoping he would make it to see my first born child, but that isn’t looking likely. Sounds silly, but he is like a brother. I don’t like seeing him suffer like this and don’t want to be selfish. I hope there is something they will tell me they can do to get him through a little longer. Need some prayers and I appreciate the thread.

    • Shannon says:

      Awe.. maybe he was just stressed at the vets over the weekend. Hopefully they can adjust his meds and he will get back on track. Don’t give up hope.
      It’s not silly at all to think of him as a brother. They are family 100%… my boys are my babies!
      My little one with CHF came to me at 9 years old in bad shape. We just celebrated his 11th bday in Feb. You never know what will happen so try to stay positive and he will feel that positivity. Prayers for him!

    • Sue Huss says:

      Don’t worry Nate I’m sure your Boston Terrier can meet your first born child on the other side and perhaps he can then help watch over your first born child when he is born.
      Maybe instead of an imaginary friend your son will grow to have an imaginary dog friend.
      Blessings to both of you.

  • Nate says:

    Sue and Shannon,
    Thanks for your kind comments. Well I wish I had some positive new, but I have lost my best friend today. It’s still really fresh. Pretty much a hot mess typing this right now. It was like he was waiting on me to show up to pass. My wife and I went to take him to the vet and put him in the passenger seat of my wives car. We had to take separate cars due to my work. I get in my car and my wife starts yelling that he has all the sudden passed out and she thought he was gone. I gave him CPR and he came back shortly. On the way again trying to get him to the vet he passed. I know this was what was meant to happen. I was just not ready to lose my best bud. Been through a lot together in 11 years. I hate that we lose them so soon. I have one more boston and a pug. The pug is 9 and the other boston is 4. The pug and my boston that just passed were never apart for those 9 years. It breaks my heart that my pug has lost her partner in life. She still has the four year old, but those two had a bond like I’ve never seen before between animals. I appreciate finding this thread that I could vent on.

    • Shannon says:

      Awe. I am so sorry to hear this. I believe fully that we will meet them again on the other side. He is still with you.. just in a different way.
      He was loved and had a great life with you and your family I am sure so just remember that.
      RIP little buddy…. until you meet again. I will ask my dogs on the other side to show him around at the Rainbow bridge.

      Rainbow Bridge

      Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
      When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

      All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
      They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

      You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

      Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together….

    • Patty says:

      Nate,
      I am so sorry to hear this of your beloved pet. At least he did not suffer a long drawn out thing but the sudden of it is hard. I am sure your Boston terrier is pain free and playing with other pets on that Rainbow bridge. As much as it would hurt I hope when my schnauzer Maggie’s time is up she goes quickly. My prayers are with you on your loss.

    • claudette says:

      Update on Misty.We said good bye to our precious on March 17th.It was one if the hardest things I have ever had to do but my dear little dog was beginning to suffer,and her meds were no longer working for her cough and she wasn’t eating enough to give them to her on the final days.My heart goes out to each and everyone of you going through this terrible disease with your furry loved ones.I miss my dear little dog so much,there are still times I look in her chair to see if she’s still there.Its been a very rough couple weeks,and I still tear up(as I am now) whenever I talk about her.She was 15 years 7months old and when diagnosed was given 2 months with medication,no more than a year.She showed them,she went past the year and totally amazed the vet on how strong she was.The last few days of her life she still walked down the stairs to go outside.She would not let me carry her,but I knew it was time.Its almost like she was saying she had enough.Our vet was exceptional and made the process so much more bearable for all of us.I have locks of her hair done for a keepsake and for our other 2 pets to have closure.We also have her paw prints done for a walking stone in our garden.This site was a godsend for me the past year and I hope each person who avails of this site will find the comfort I found the first night I stumbled upon it.God bless you all for loving your pets as you do.

    • My heart goes out to you and your wife. The very same thing happened to me & my husband with our tiny maltese “Dusti” last October. I have her sister, she has seemed to have gone down hill since. We both miss her still so much. I wouldn’t trade the world for all of the love and happiness that Dusti brought into our lives. That’s what makes it all worth while. ;) Bless you.

  • Shar says:

    I am so glad to have found your post(s). My heart goes out to all of you and your babies. My 11 year old Shih Tzu was diagnosed with a heart murmur last year, a level 3. No meds right away. But then she started “fainting” in her sleep, I’d be awoken with her scream and then she’d urinate and be laying on her side like she was gone. I could wake her up by rolling her over. Then she was ok, like nothing happened. I told the vet of this and thats when she got on Lasix (furosemide) and Enalapril. So far, no more night fainting (that happened 4 times in 6 months) and only once after the pills. She’s doing well as she can be, however she does cough. Especially after exertion. She vomits liquids up periodically. When that happens I don’t know whether to give her her meds or not. But I always do give her meds unless she absolutely cannot keep them down. Her blood tests come back perfectly normal so the pills are not affecting her adversely. Do any of your pups vomit up liquid? Also my girls appetite was never great but now it’s even less. Unless of course it’s for treats. :-) I’ve begun cooking chicken breasts for my dogs. One of my dogs without heart problems eats the chicken plus dog food, however my heart problem girl just eats a little of the chicken most days, but some days refuses. My vet has never said she has CHF either, but all symptoms point to that. Vet just said Heart Murmur. Other than all this she is as active as she needs to be, happy, barks at passerby and neighbor dogs, and plays.

    • Shannon says:

      Hi Shar,

      My baby was fainting with exertion but there was no screams or urination with it… that sounds so scary. Poor her and poor you!! (My boy was diagnosed with CHF due to Heartworm almost 2 years ago. He was just supposed to be a foster for a few days for me but I couldn’t let him go knowing how sick he was/could get…so almost 2 years later he is still with me!)
      He does vomit sometimes, but I switched his food to a balanced “home cooked” diet (Canine Life Muffins) and he vomits much less now. I would definitely speak to your vet about the not eating/decrease in appetite.. maybe her tummy is upset with the meds and there is something that can be done to help that. If you continue to cook for her she will need more than just chicken or she will lack the vitamins and nutrients she needs to be as healthy as can be.

      Good luck with everything!

  • Nadine says:

    Awe that is so awful! Why on earth do these poor helpless innocent animals gotta go thru hell. It seems almost every dog dies from some sort of medical condition. At least all of mine had…i had a jack russel terrier my first dog of my own besides the 2 my dad had growing up but this one was mine,my very own. He was a rescue…older..not sure how old … After a few weeks of having him he had a seizure ! Dropped down on the ground eyes rolling. scared the shit outta me….i was only 14,15 and never ever seen a seizure !!! Then he snapped out of it and everything was fine like it never happened… Hmm ok no buggy. This went on a few years but I never worried and he never showed any signs of being sick or on pain..etc…so id say 3 years later he starts this cough lkke thing. It got bad fast. I had no money my parents never cared for pets the way I do…so my older sister took us to vet and paid ! They gave him some type of steroid I believe…its been about 10 yrs so I can’t remember details…but like the original post reads…the cough went away with these meds I was so happy and relieved !!!!! Until it came back much worse..back to vet to be told he had congestive heart failure…they could treat it but no cure without surgery which was to risky due to his old age…ahh so I was in a bad spot…they gave more meds to treat him and again his cough was gone but I new deep down inside of my heart it was temporarily until it would start back up..and in a matter of 2 days,it came back ..i don’t remember how long after this it was that he held on but it wasn’t long and I wasn’t home I was outta town which I still have guilt that I didn’t hold him while he took his last breath..but my mom did..she sat and held him while he struggled to breath pretty much drowning in his own fluids…and that was it…I now have a shitzhu he’s older..just recently started a cough /sneeze …vet gave him pepcid and a antihistimine….i promised him no matter what happens I wont ever allow him to suffer I will be sure he passes peacefully being put to sleep since I now can afford that. I’d never watch him (pookie) suffer the way Scottie did…

  • Christine says:

    Hi just to update, I decided to have Britty, my 15 yr old JRT put to sleep today. My heart is breaking. She’d begun to cough almost non stop, even interupting her sleep…it’s horrible to watch them suffer. Her belly had become very distended from fluid back up, and that pressed up on her lungs, causing non stop cough. It happened so suddenly, she’d always responded to treatment adjustments, etc very well til now.
    I just want her to be her old happy self, running in the fields, or snuggling on my lap. That can’t be, her time was here…
    I already miss her sooo much, it’s been 5 hrs. The pain is so strong.
    Tonight she won’t be in bed with me for the first time ever. Such a
    horribly achy feeling in ,my gut and heart. Please remind me it will get better, someone!

    • Shannon says:

      I’m so sorry Christine. RIP Britty. I’ll ask my babies that have passed to show her the ropes on the other side.
      I dread the day my Memí stops responding to the meds. You loved her and she knows that…you did what you had to do to help her feel better. I truly believe we will meet them again. It’s so hard. But it will get better. She is still with you. It’s just in a different form. Just remeber the good times and all the love. Britty is breathing freely now…no more coughing and her little heart isn’t broken anymore.
      She will be in your bed tonight…you just won’t see her…but she’ll be there. ::big hug::

    • Patty says:

      I am so sorry for your loss. I keep waiting for the day I come home and will be our Maggie’s turn. For now she is stable. You sweet furbaby will be in heaven I believe in that. She will be having fun with other doggies. My heart goes out to you. God bless you.

      • Christine says:

        thank you so much for listening. Tomorrow we bury Britty, that will be hard. Everywhere I look I see reminders of her, her bed, favorite blanket, all her meds still lined up by the frige…
        does it take a week to stop crying? probably longer. My dogs are everything to me. I live alone. I’m so thankfull I have 2 younger JRT’s (younger? Daisy is 8! seems so young compared to Britty’s age of 15!) My other JR is 4, and diagnosed with diabetes 1 year ago. That’s a whole other story- anyone know of a good supportive site for dogs with diabetes?
        Britty lived for a year and a half after diagnosis. Each time she responded so well to the 3 heart meds, and treatments I secretly hoped she’d live to 16! Even 3 days ago she was out sniffing for squirrels and toads with the other 2….the breathing and coughing became worse so suddenly. She didn’t rebound this last time.
        Anyway thanks for listening to me.
        Bless you.

  • Felicia sanders says:

    My precious chihuahua Nicole was diagnosed with a very enlarged heart yesterday. She is ten and a half. Last year the vet just told me she had a very pronounced murmur and we would have to watch it. I immediately researched natural teatments and have been giving her cardio plus by standard process and vitamins c, b, e, fish oil and Co Q10 for the past year. But then last week she had breathing spells that scared me and so we saw vet yesterday. He prescribed lasix 12.5 mg 2 x per day and benazepril 1 x per day. It’s only been 24 hrs but no change yet and I don’t notice any extra urine output. I thought she would be peeing more today. Anyway, after reading all the posts, I am left wondering if heart meds really help improve life quality. I know the lasix helps, but I know that several heart meds make the cough worse not only in dogs but humans as well. My dog has the typical goose honk cough several times during day and night. I guess what I fear is that the heart meds makes things worse after taken a while. Look at the side effects in a human pill book, someof ones used to treat heart failure can actually bring it on! I just don’t know what the best course is. I cried all day yesterday and today. Chihuahuas are suppose to have a life expectancy up to 18 yrs. I had hoped my baby would at least make it to 15, but I feel sure that’s not gonna happen. I feel so sad. I’ve lost both my parents, my child, my husband is disabled

    • Sue Huss says:

      I also gave my dog cardio plus but perhaps it only helps dogs remain healthy a little longer than if you were not giving them anything. We can only do our best and in the end it will still have the same outcome. Their life span is just too short.
      I use to recommend hydrocodone which really worked for my Precious but now the vets can’t even get this drug anymore thanks to the government thinking they are doing us a favor because there is misuse by humans for Vicodan. Now my Precious #2 coughs all the time she has collapsing trachea which was originally helped by hydrocodone which works as a cough suppressant. Thank you government. Blessings to you and everyone else who I didn’t respond to lately but I am like surely everyone else here listening and praying for you all.

  • From Michigan says:

    I’m so sorry to hear of your loss! I’m sure this is very difficult for you!

    Thank you for posting the information about her slow decline. I have a poodle with the same heart ailment. I’ve been a little worried so I googled her condition and your site came up. It was very helpful to me.

    I am dreading the day that I am in your position and have to put her in the ground. It will be very sad indeed.

    Have you thought of getting a small plant in honor of her… I have one that I look it all the time to reminds me of my loved one that has passed. It helps somehow.

    I wish you all the best during this time of grieving. It is a very difficult thing to go through. Blessings, -d

  • Marcia says:

    JoJo..our 12 yr old Rat Terrier was diagnosed one year ago with congestive heart disease.Possibly brought on from heart worm/heart murmur. He was a 2yr old rescue…currently on vetmedin/enalapril/lasix/spirolacton/.Extremely enlarged heart…Our vet has been recommending Cardiologist consult.we are having a non eventful weekend…no coughing..comfortable for the most part..appetite huge!..lol..Would like to hear of anyone that has consulted with the cardiologist and had a change of treatment plan for a more comfortable last year or more..Thanks!

    • Laurel says:

      I took Sophia to a veterinary cardiologist and it made all the difference in not only her quality of life, but I had her a year longer than I believe I would have.

      It is a year now without her, exactly, and I would do it all again.

      • Sue Huss says:

        Laurel, can you tell me what the cardiologist did for her besides meds. I can’t believe my vet would not of recommended a consult if it would of helped. Could it be your vet was just not experienced in treating her condition or perhaps her condition was different in some way which presented possible complications?

        • Laurel says:

          Ohh, dear Sue, I am sure your veterinarian would have recommended a cardiologist if he/she believed it would have been helpful.

          I am not sure if Marica, the original poster indicated why her veterinarian suggested a consult. I do not know if it is routine for some.

          My veterinarian had taken care of my other furry ones so he had years of experience, and had worked as an emergency vet prior to opening his own practice.

          I remember that at first he thought she had a viral infection or bronchitis from being at the park. When she didn’t respond to the Lasix he wanted her to have additional testing. That was why I originally took her.

          I trusted him to know when he thought she needed additional care.

          But, it is true, that medication stabilization and testing, is basically what the cardiologist did, once she got Sophia through critical care when she went into heart failure.

    • Patty says:

      Our 12 yr old Maggie was diagnosed back in Feb and has been stable with meds of very simular. Very enlarged heart but no symptoms of coughing issue. Tired all the time but she seems content considering. We did not go to any specialist as we did not feel the need for her. We might think different if she was suffering. We are blessed to have her as long as she is not suffering. It’s all about her quality of life.

      • Laurel says:

        I think that is wise, if everything is stable, there may be no need.

        Because I had already had that consult though, when Sophia, went into heart failure, that history was invaluable. It helped them to stabilize her. She was in an oxygen tent for a few days but once her medication was adjusted she was with me another year, comfortable and happy.

        The cardiologist has training a regular veterinarian does not, Sophia needed an echocardiogram.

        I was missing Sophia so much today, she was so precious to me. I posted that I had put her to rest on July 4th last year. Sophia was my Mom’s furry one, first, and she came to me, five years prior when my Mom passed away. I was missing them both so much.

        My Mom’s name is Marcia, too, and it just made me smile, to see I responded to a Marcia.

        Sending you much support and positive thought for your decision.

  • Katie says:

    Hello, my mother has a 13 1/2 y/o Maltipoo that was diagnosed with CHF two years ago. He does fairly well during the day but he coughs a lot at night and of course, needs to get up and drink as well as go outside and go to the bathroom. My poor Mom is exhausted from taking care of him. To make matters worse, we just lost my Dad in April so this has been especially hard on her. I am trying to see if there is something we can do at night to help Dusty sleep better and in turn, help my Mom get a good night’s sleep.

    After an especially hard night for Dusty (fireworks and a big thunderstorm got him very worked up) this past Sunday, she took him back to the vet on Monday. I went with her to see if there was anything that could help little Dusty feel more comfortable at night. I think she fears that we (her children) want to have him put down and that is not the case at all. I went with her for moral support as well as to meet the vet and ask my own questions. The vet was extremely compassionate with my Mom, which put me at ease. She checked Dusty’s lungs and they were clear, which was a good sign. She suggested that Mom give Dusty hydrocodone at night to help him sleep. The thing is, she has been doing this already and it doesn’t always help. She said that as far as additional treatments, there was not much more that we could do. She did, however, suggest that Mom give him another Lasix at night as well as a 1/2 tablet of Melatonin (3 mg) at night before bed. She said this was all natural and would not hurt him – but it may help him to relax and go to sleep. She said she gives it to her own kids (human ones) before they go on trips.

    As of right now, this is a list of Dusty’s meds:

    1) 12.5 mg Salix (Lasix) – one tablet in the morning and 1/2 tablet at night;
    2) 5 mg Benezepril – 1/2 tablet every 12 hours;
    3) hydrocodone syrup (not sure of dosage) every night at bedtime;
    4) 3 mg Melatonin – 1/2 tablet at night before bed.

    For anxiety:

    Alprazolam .25 mg – one tablet every 8 hours as needed

    We live in FL and we have really bad afternoon thunderstorms, which of course, are very frightening to Dusty. This past weekend was the 4th of July, so the fireworks were very loud and scary for him as well. The combination of the two has been very traumatizing for him and I’m worried how much more this little guy can take.

    You wouldn’t necessarily know that he is sick during the day. He is energetic, eats well, drinks water and has full bowel and bladder control. His breath is atrocious though and he has some serious tear-staining but my mom takes excellent care of him and has his groomed regularly.

    I am very interested in what, if anything, we can do to help Dusty at night – help him rest, decrease his coughing, etc.

    My Mom will not allow him to suffer. She’s not in denial either – she knows he is very sick. When the time comes, she will let him go. And we will be there for her to help her get through it. In the meantime, does anyone know of anything we can do at night to help ease his coughing? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

    • Anne says:

      I’m guessing that Dusty sleeps with your Mom and its probably not useful to suggest he sleep in a different room so Mom can get some rest. You might consider getting him acclimated to Pee Pads so she won’t need to let him out at night when increasing the lasix. Is your Mom keeping his diet as low in sodium as possible? Most commercial dog foods are loaded with salt (and there is no requirement to list amounts).
      You mention his bad breath, a sure sign of gum disease. There are human studies that show that gum disease and poor dental hygiene can exacerbate existing heart conditions, and I would bet this holds true for dogs as well. He may not be healthy enough to undergo dental scaling (anesthesia), but might allow your Mom to do a little while he’s awake (try to get those back molars!). There is also a natural pet product called MaxiGuard Oral Cleansing Gel, 4 oz.“>
      Maxi/Guard Oral Cleaning Gel that can help reduce bacterial load (and gum inflammation). Lastly, look into supplements – at minimum, he should be taking CoQ-10 found here Vetri-Science 10-mg Coenzyme Q10, 100-Capsules“>and L-carnitine (preferable propionyl form). Best!

      • Katie says:

        My mom says that the Melatonin is really helping. They both are taking it now and are sleeping much better. The teeth are beyond help. He is too sick to have anything done to his teeth (per the vet) but I will tell my Mom about your suggestions. Thank you.

  • felicia says:

    I posted June 27 about my chihuahua, Nicole and her diagnosed of chf. I have kept her on her supplements of taurine, carnitine, d- d-ribose, multiple b vitamin and c as well as standard process cardio. I also added petwellbeing’s heart formula and just yesterday a holistic vet gave her a homeopathic drops to help her through the heat spelll we are having. I don’ t know how much any of this is helping. She seems to look a bit more energetic, but her coughing is bad. I am fighting with myself over whether it would be better to spend a few more good days with her and then have her put to sleep before it gets really bad. I am so depressed and haven’t been eating well and I am beginning to worry about myself. Like the rest of you, I just love her so much and can’t stand the thought of her not here. She’s all I have, basically, as my parents and my child are no longer around. I had to take her off benazepril. It made her cough worse. Vet gave her enalapril instead, but I haven’t given it everyday because it may be doing the same thing as the other. In the meantime, I cook for her and try to keep her off the commercial foods. I’ve seen several who have posted improvement in their pets when they did this. I feel for each of you dealing with chf in your pets. I cry with you! Heart failure is a terrible thing. My mom had it too and passed away five years ago.

    • Sue Huss says:

      My heart goes out to you. I guess when it’s time all the supplements and medicine in the world doesn’t help. Try to give her meds religiously before you decide. I know when I would miss a dose my Precious’s cough would get a lot worse also.
      It wasn’t until her cough became non-stop during the day that I decided it was time to stop her suffering. Blessings to you and Nicole.

      • felicia says:

        Thank you, Sue, for your comforting words. I am so sorry about Precious. I’m sure she lived up to her name! Many blessings to you to.

    • Laurel says:

      I am so sorry, I know how heart-wrenching it can be. I didn’t see a mention of Vetmedin and was wondering if your veterinarian thought it might be helpful?

      Laurel

      • felicia says:

        So far the vet hasn’t mentioned vetmedin yet. Am working with a holistic vet at the moment. I may ask about it soon and see what they think. My doggy’s kidneys are borderline, so we have to be careful. I am very thankful to you and Sue for your replies. Makes me feel not so alone!

    • Shannon says:

      I’m sorry that you and Nicole have to go through this. I have a Chihuahua that I rescued at 9 years old. He came to me with heart worm and when we started treatment, unfortunately he went into heart failure. He was diagnosed almost 2 years ago now and is doing really well (knock on wood). I dread the day stuff like this begins to happen. He is such a sweet boy…and lived so long all alone out in a backyard, so I want him to get as many good years as he can… were is loved more than he even knows. He sleeps in my bed every night. I know it’s gotta be very very hard. You are doing everything you can and I think when it’s time you will know. We make that decision for them…as if it was for use we’d keep them forever. Just remember she is loved and she knows that…and you will meet again!

  • felicia says:

    Thank you Shannon. While I’m on here, I want to tell everyone an experience I had. I worked for a lady who has one of those potpourri pots that plug in and you burn the wax cubes in them. Her little dog began coughing and scratching and pulling his fur out. The vet diagnosed allergies. The dog continued to get sicker, even vomiting profusely. To make a long story shorter, the potpourri pot almost killed this dog before we discovered what was going on. Please, animal lovers, do not use these around your precious babies. Even though they are touted to be safe, pets are smaller, are more sensitive to scents and they can really do a number on your fur babies. I know this subject is not about heart failure, but I wanted to get this message out to all those who own pets. The lady’s dog made a full recovery when she stopped using the pot, but it took some time.

  • Lise says:

    Hi, just wanted to mention that what I thought were seizures in my Chihuahua was actually fainting.
    He stumbles, falls on his side in a daze, urinates and then is able to shake it off.
    He just started on a diuertic and I’m giving him kelp in the morning and omega 3 on a raw diet that’s already been supplemented ,
    Thanks

    • Sue Huss says:

      That sounds just like mild seizures. My Precious would do the same thing,once they discovered she had low thyroid the seizures stopped. Has your vet said it was fainting and what was the cause?

  • lise says:

    hi Sue, 2 vets have said it was fainting due to his heart condition

    • Shannon says:

      My boy did the same a few times, although he never wet himself. Scared the CRAP outta me!! Especially the first time. He almost fell right off the bed. Luckily I caught him as he fell. He was like a rag doll for what seemed like forever then woke up as I was screaming to my boyfriend in the other room that something was wrong and we had to rush him to ER. So scary.
      This was how he was initially diagnosed with CHF. Since he’s been on his meds and a “home cooked” diet no fainting spells. Thank God! I hope you see an improvement quickly with the meds. In the meantime, please keep a close eye on him so he doesn’t fall off something or down stairs if he does faint Good luck!

  • lise says:

    thanks Shannon, he’s hanging in there, at 14 I am not sure for how long, he’s doing well

  • Tracey says:

    My story is very similar. My king Charles Spaniel 9 y/o female showed exercise intolerance 2 years ago. She has always had a slight cough especially after drinking. The vet diagnosed her with a murmur/CHF and prescribed Vetmedin 1.25 twice a day. I moved to another state and recently took her to the cardiologist for a re-check. This vet said no change in her heart and thinks the cough is due to something else as well-whatever. He suggested taking her off the Vetmedin and giving her Lasix 20mg a day. No one has started her on Enapril yet?I had already started her on lasix because her coughing was worse-my dad 91 has CHF so we have it here. Like you I have no faith in the emergency team who seemed to be fishing for surgery candidates $$$ otherwise-were not interested. In any case I am convinced after researching on-line that the cough is tracheal collapse. It is a honking sound which has progressed to a honk-gag-squeak-click-worse at night. I have started giving her Glucosamine-Chondroitin-MSM supplements along with Spongia tosta 6c twice a day.These are holistic no prescription required. This has really calmed down her coughing. I either give the supplements or a new food that I recently started Hill i/d joint care which has the glucosamine in it. Hope this helps.

  • felicia says:

    Just updating on my Nicole–the vet put her on Vetmedin, but when I gave her the full dose she became very lethargic. I cut the dose in half, with my vets approval, and it seemed to help her breathing but then I noticed that within a short time after I give her this reduced dose, her heartbeat is very unsteady. Her heartbeat had been doing really well just when I added the supplements before any meds.. Now I am afraid to give her the Vetmedin. If it makes her heartbeat that unsteady how could it be that good for her? So I consulted with a holistic vet again yesterday and she mixed up a formula for her. But she also reminded me of what I know. This i progressive disease and there’s no stopping g it. I am battling with myself as to whether I should just do the right thing before it gets too bad. I don,’t

  • felicia says:

    Just updating on my Nicole–the vet put her on Vetmedin, but when I gave her the full dose she became very lethargic. I cut the dose in half, with my vets approval, and it seemed to help her breathing but then I noticed that within a short time after I give her this reduced dose, her heartbeat is very unsteady. Her heartbeat had been doing really well just when I added the supplements before any meds.. Now I am afraid to give her the Vetmedin. If it makes her heartbeat that unsteady how could it be that good for her? So I consulted with a holistic vet again yesterday and she mixed up a formula for her. But she also reminded me of what I know. This i progressive disease and there’s no stopping g it. I am battling with myself as to whether I should just do the right thing before it gets too bad. I d

    • Patty says:

      Felicia, it is difficult knowing we can’t fix our furry babies. My Maggie was diagnosed with CHF earlier this year. She has responded well with vetmed and two other meds to keep her comfortable. But currently she has slowed down even more, tired all the time. Every day is a blessing. I hope you can find something to make yours feel comfort.

  • felicia says:

    Thank you Patty. Sorry about your precious baby. The formula that my holistic vet mixed up really seems to help, but of course there would be a problem, don’t you know? To keep my precious baby taking it, it would cost me $90 dollars a month! I don’t think I can swing that right now because my husband is disabled and I am only able to work part time myself due to health issues. The vet suggested just giving half the dose, but that’s still going to be costly, in addition to the furosemide and other meds. I feel horrible that it has come down to money. I don’t know yet how this is going to work out, I just can only do the best I can. If anyone is interested in having a holistic vet mix up this formula for their dogs,ere is what is in it: something called cardiac//inflammation/berberis/APIs/lymph+kardiazyme+ KyoPrime, 1-2 ml 2-4 times per day. This really made a difference in my dogs breathing and heart rate. Just wish I could keep her on it as a regular med. Hope this might help someone else. I just noticed that I left one ingredient out of that list–something called thymus. If anyone here has accessSorry, I am not used to the keyboard on my tablet so I make a lot of errors in my typing. Wishing all if you the best with your fur babies. This is a horrible disease to deal with. to a holistic vet, you might want to give this formula a try.

    • Shannon says:

      Oh no. What about starting a gofundme page to help with the cost? Is there anything you can give up or cut cost on that can help? I wish you the best!

  • felicia says:

    I just gave up my life insurance policy on my husband, and I am trying to figure out other area. I am not very savvy when it comes to the internet,Shannon, could you please fill me in on how I would set up a gofundme page? Thank you for any info you could provide. I came across a place on the internet called the big hearts fund, but they don’t help with costs on a dog they consider geriatric. Anyway, if any of you have a younger dog that has heart disease and need help with the costs, you might look at the info on thebigheartsfund.com. Thank you so much for your comments!

    • Shannon says:

      Hi Felicia. Gofundme is a crown funding website. The address is https://www.gofundme.com/ You can open an account, share your story and the struggles you are having to afford it and share it with friends and family on facebook etc. If you do share on facebook, make it public so even if friends and fam can’t donate they can share it. The more it’s shared the better. Good luck!!

  • felicia says:

    Thankyou so much. I just may do that. Couldn’t hurt to try!Thanks so much, Shannon!

  • felicia says:

    I was just wondering if anyone has used the pet products from five leaf pharmacy and if they got positive results with it? (The program for congestive heart failure)

    • Robyn says:

      Hi! I just found this forum last night and have read thru all your heartaches. I also have a 5lb Maltese named Cori with chf. She is now 14 1/2 and was diagnosed on her 9th birthday (way to young :( ) The day she was diagnosed I took her to the vet for what I thought was allergies, she was not getting any better so I took her in after work when she had got much worse while I was gone for the day. My vet told me she had chf and gave her I’ve lasix and put her in the oxygen cage. I didnt think she would be coming home again. They told me they would keep til they closed but I would have to take her to emergency for the night if she pulled thru the next few hours. They called me 4 hours later to pick her up and take her home she has bad separation anxiety and to spend the $ ki would have spent for overnight care toward a cardiologist. I did, and was told she was in bad shape and even with the usual meds she would only have up to 6 months. I couldn’t except that and I started to research and I found Amanda at Five leaf pet pharmacy and immediately ordered Cori their heart program. She told me first thing was to take her off all dog food and to stop giving her regular water just bottled water and chicken and rice. I was worried about her vitamins etc and was told it was all in the program I just ordered. To make a even longer story short Cori is sill with me over 5 years later and is a happy little fun loving girl. If you are on the fence about the 5 leaf program please give it a try. Don’t get me wrong, Cori still has chf the reason I found this forum is because she has started to cough again after 5 years but I have to tell myself that I have got to spend a lot more time with her and have cherished every minute! I will pray for all of you who are dealing with this horrible disease that you can find answers to help your puppies since they can’t help themselves. Your puppies are blessed to have such loving owners who want them to feel better and enjoy the time the have left with us. It’s never enough time!

      • Sue Huss says:

        That is truly amazing. I wish my Precious was still here to try it.

      • felicia says:

        Robyn, I was wondering, did your dog also take her regular meds along with the five leaf pharmacy’s herbs? Did you have any trouble getting her to take the herbs? My dog can be piucky about what’s in her food. I may give it a try and see if it helps.

        • Robyn says:

          Yes Felicia I still kept Cori on her meds.

          • Erin says:

            Hi Robyn..I have looked into the five leaf pharmacy herbs and ordered two of them. It seems like a lot of herbs and supplements to give everyday. Did you have trouble getting your dog to take them? I’d have to syringe all of them because he’s not eating a lot right now. Also, are you doing hydrotherapy with your dog which is also recommended on their site. Thanks!!! Erin

  • Jen says:

    I’ve avoided forums like this for so long, thinking my fears would only increase if I read these posts, but of course I have found some comfort in these words. Literally just took the past hour reading every post on this page! I truly appreciate and have so much gratitude for those who share their stories.

    I got my dog Beau (a silky) when I was 20, he was 1 and I bought him from a really irresponsible owner. I have now had him for 6 years and he is so young to be in such a condition. He is turning 7 on November 9th. He was slightly overweight most of his life due to being severely underfed as a pup and developing what most vets considered a serious eating disorder. He had severe panic attacks and would stay up crying all night if his bowl was empty… not sure if that contributed to his heart disease but the vet and cardiologist says that most likely wasn’t it since he only had about a pound to lose (which he has).

    He has been my best friend. Literally I spend most of my time with him since I work from home. I have known him longer than I have been with my husband and we share a bond that no soul could come between.

    Up until September 8 2014 he was a fairly healthy dog. Not insanely active like our other rescues, he gets his walks but he would rather play with his toys, chew, or just explore the backyard. He went to our holistic vet for his regular checkup that day and this happened to be his new vet, she discovered a slight murmur.

    I have no idea why but I was devastated. I had no idea what that actually meant but I truly believe my “higher self” or something knew the road I was about to journey on. I spent 3 days in shock and severe depression. Literally could hardly get out of bed I was so afraid to lose my best friend. After I gathered myself together I started down the road of intense research. We already live in a non-toxic home, air filters, house water filters and all, so I knew this must have been the path our souls chose for a reason since environmentally there wasn’t much I could do to improve his quality of life.

    He had always had a wheezing and he was a panter but previous vets said he was either out of shape or something was up with his trachea. Thank heavens for good holistic vets! She put him on a cardiac support supplement and said meds weren’t necessary yet but recommended we see the cardiologist at the pet hospital. We did and he said the same thing. It was a low grade murmur so we have to see how it plays out over the next few months.

    I took him off of orijen kibble, because I believe dogs shouldn’t be on dry food its just that having 8 rescued animals we needed to be able to budget a better diet in. We have had the most success with Primal Freeze-dried food. It is the only thing he absolutely loves and has allowed us to feed him twice a day without him asking for food. He gets organic veggies as treats and his now pills are taken with boiled chicken.

    Beginning of this year we had a lot of stress, as my husband was let go of his job (he is a college student still so this was devastating), although we really tried to keep the atmosphere positive for the “children”. He found another job within a month but Beau’s cough was getting worse and he needed to go to the cardiologist for another checkup. We could afford the 500 for the scan at the time, because we wanted to keep them eating healthy so we took him to the vet and set the cardiologist appt up for two weeks away. The vet said his X-rays looked ok and that she thought he would be ok for the time being, if anything changed we should go to the er vet or call her.

    Right before he was supposed to go into the cardiologist he started acting strange. He sat at the end of my bed for a few hrs, he still ate dinner and went to the bathroom but his panting wouldn’t quit. I didn’t know many signs at the time of heart failure, last thing I heard he only had a slight murmur so failure wasn’t even in my vocab. I stayed up until about 4 am and noticed he couldn’t get comfortable and he was refusing to lay down. I had my husband check his gums and sure enough they were turning. This memory haunted me for months after. I felt as though if I was more aware of what was happening I could have gotten him in earlier. Forgiveness of the self is a powerful thing.

    He was rushed to the er vet and put on oxygen support… after paying the 1300 deposit of course (god forbid they don’t get their payment before saving them) They expected him not to make it but he pulled through. Three days later and now on four meds he was allowed to come home. He was put on enalopril (spelling?), Furosemide, Viagra and Pimobendan. I researched even more during this time (my darkest hours I swear) and discovered Spark supplement. He also was on Krill oil and Ubiquinol from Dr. Mercola for pets. After two weeks and a follow up appt the fluid was totally out of his lungs and he was out of heart failure. His heart had enlarged some and he was in more advanced heart disease.

    We were getting married that summer and had to make a road trip back home. We decided after consulting with the vet and cardiologist leaving the dogs with a caregiver was worse for him, as he doesn’t do well without either of us gone for long periods and that we had to let him live and enjoy the time he had left. So after another scan, X-rays and bloodword he came home with us for our wedding. This was the most fun I had seen him have in years. He slept on his back in a bed (he never does that, always stomach or side), he played on the beach… his version of playing. He explored and napped.

    There was one problem.

    On the way home I discovered two fleas, one on him and one on our yorkie. After being horrified and freaking out I got rid of and eliminated the fleas before they got into the house, but he had to have three baths in a row (within a week). I am lucky they never brought them back to the house and we have now been flea free for months but I am wondering now If the stress of the baths or who knows what caused him to go back into heart failure. A few days after his last bath (I bathed them with the unscented baby dr bronzers) he was a little off. Not panting but sort of wobbly sitting up on his bed. I felt a weird sense of peace like I knew the end was coming and my husband had my car so I had to wait two hrs until he got home so we could take him in. I called my mom crying because I truly believed he was passing and I needed to just be there for him. We took him in and sure enough he was back in heart failure, this time he spent only one day at the hospital. They did tell us if it keeps up we should consider putting him down but that there is plenty of room for adjustments and he keeps coming back to his “normal” so quickly we just didn’t think it was time.

    I should also add that between this time I discovered from pet wellbeing the nupet antioxidant wafers. Ive noticed increased energy with him and my other dogs love them!

    Three weeks ago I had a weird feeling because he was breathing a little heavy and his resting rate was between 44-60 for 48 hrs. Everything else seemed fine but he was waking up at 3 am and he was really restless. Crying for treats… I guess not that out of character. My husband took him in anyways and to our surprise he was getting oxygen just fine. I am not sure which valve but one had actually shrunk in size and the er vet was excited to report this to the cardiologist it seemed as though he is on the road to being somewhat stable. Obviously with heart disease there is no recovery but with his age I selfishly was hoping for at least two years.

    Yesterday he took a turn for the worse. Not as bad as before but his breathing but above 60. He was playing, eating, barking I cant always control him, he is a dog, but something felt off. I convinced my husband to take him in this morning and sure enough there is the slightest bit of fluid in his lungs. Basically they said it was amazing we caught it this early, they even gave us a discount because we are basically regulars this year. My husband has later work hours (we decided today no more of this) and Beau stresses at night when he is gone, so I don’t know if that played a part… aren’t we always looking for answers? :) Ive spent most of the day in tears sort of realizing the end is coming… or could be. I won’t keep him here longer than he wants to be but that pain is so raw no matter what.

    Although the er vet said it is too hard to tell and that we shouldn’t look at putting him down soon unless it becomes too much. His coughing is under control and everything else is fine we just know that they told us with his pulmonary hypertension he could basically fall dead at any moment. He is currently stable and fluid should be out of his lungs soon. He gets to come home again tomorrow. I’ve ordered his favorite organic bed (which a cat ruined a month ago) and his favorite carrot toy to come monday. If there is one thing I have learned it is that forgiving yourself is the most powerful thing you can do. We don’t know why these things have to happen, but I can tell you this dog has brought me the most beautiful lesson of unconditional love and forgiveness and no matter how long he has here I am a totally changed person because of him.

    I no longer try to micromanage his fun. If he wants to bark on the deck so be it. He only gets short walks down the block twice a week but overall I want him to enjoy the rest of his life no matter how long that is. We make it a priority to spend as much time with all of our pets as we can. I do feel blessed to be able to work from home and monitor him so closely but everyone knows watching a pet slowly die (although I suppose we all sort of are haha) is extremely exhausting. One minute they are fine, the next on death row, the next they are fine again and it is such a roller coaster. Even though his pills are about 200 a month, supplements and food are over 600 for the dogs and his vet appointments are a true hurt to the wallet, I would go broke for my kids 1000 times over. I do feel lucky he has made it 6 months since his first episode of heart failure but like I said before I can’t help but selfishly want more time.

    • Jen says:

      Ok I have to apologize for the spelling errors and grammatical mistakes. I obviously meant couldn’t* afford the 500 (haha how weird to tell people I could afford something). Crying eyes at 1030 pm don’t mix well I suppose. :)

    • Sue Huss says:

      I can relate and am sorry you have to go through this. On another thought I don’t believe flea baths are the best way to get rid of fleas but I’m sure this is not the cause of your Beau going into heart failure. Sometimes things just happen as they are meant to.
      Blessings to both of you.

      • Jen says:

        Oh that was just to get any fleas that were on him since it was in the car when I saw the first one. We were actually on the road trip when they both caught them so it either was from the outdoors or who knows because they didn’t come in contact with any other animals. He had three total found and it was what our vet thought to be the safest route since he is really sensitive to all essential oils and flea treatments aren’t an option. Definitely killed the three he had and after tossing all dog bedding, blankets etc and vacuuming like crazy they never came back or they just weren’t able to establish themselves well enough. Who know but I consider myself and the dogs more than lucky in that case :). I know from just research those pesky critters can be really difficult to get rid of.

        • Sue Huss says:

          I’m glad it worked for you. You are lucky you found them right away. My 3 Pomeranians have long hair and I don’t always find them in time since I do not treat them year round.

    • Laurel says:

      Much support and many good thoughts your way, Jen, as you continue along this path unfolding, with your furry loved one.

      I understand the feeling of being on a roller coaster, the ups and downs and second guessing, what if I did this, didn’t do that.

      Trust your inner wisdom. It will guide you, as you continue to embrace the time that you and Beau have together.

      Many Blessings,

      Laurel

    • felicia says:

      Jen, I willed myself to read your letter without crying but when I got to the part about you ordering his favorite toy carrot, I lost it. My Nicole has chf and I know very well ?he ups and downs, thinking they are better one day and doomed the next. I saw a toy I wanted to buy my little doggy girl, and then thought to myself that she won’t be around much longer to enjoy it. I had to stop giving the enalapril med because it would start making her coughh worse. So I increased her Hawthorne extract to two pills a day along with the other supplements. She seemed better, more energy and less coughing. Thought I found.d the right!!n path…till yesterday. She started violently coughing, breathing deeply. I am at a loss what to do from here. I just play it by ear every day. But I am so tired. I am grieving horribly and losing weight from not eating right. Your right, Jen, it is so very exhausting to watch an animal go thru this. I tried to look at other dogs online to see if I could feel it in my heart to love another. That may sound bad while my dog is still alive, but I thought it might help me let go when tjh time is right. I found a dog and wanted so bad to just do the right thing, but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. Now that dog has already been adopted and I am heartbroken over that, and even feel guilty for looking at another one. I sometimes feel so jealous when I see other people with their dogs and they look so healthy. I feel like a terrible person for feeling like that! I find myself asking “why?” All the time and wondering why animals only live a few short years and trees, though lovely, live for thousands of years, some of them. Trees are nice, but they can’t give you puppy kisses and lay by you at night. I can’,t even imagine not having a couch full of ‘ buried bones” in it from Nicole hiding them from our cat. God help us all who deal with this!

      • Patty says:

        My good thoughts and prayers for you all. My Maggie has chf but has been stable since being diagnosed earlier this year. I know the day is going to come and try not to think about it. It’s all about their quality of life. So I wish us all the strength and patience to deal with it all. Hang in there.

        • felicia says:

          Thanks, Patty for your kindness. I hope your Maggie continues to do well and you have many more days with her! God bless you!

      • Jen says:

        I am so sorry to hear you have to go through this as well. I have to admit I was able to spend three days really diving into my thoughts while Beau was away. I found a sense of peace at the end of the weekend I had never experienced before and I thought I would share my thoughts with you in hopes that maybe it could help you as well. Ill give out a warning that this will probably be long :)

        I was lucky that after the cardiologist thought he wasn’t going to make it that he came through. He was out of heart failure but his breathing was rapid. Normally because he is at the latest stages for all three of his diseases his breathing is between 35-44. When in deep sleep we like it to be below 40 but as long as it doesn’t stay above 40 for more than an hour or two he is fine and it usually slows down to 32-36. The cardiologist didn’t know this and assumed he normally has a rate in the 20’s which is why he was so concerned. Beau had a complete turnaround sunday night. They had to place him in a chamber that wasn’t even able to be opened by anyone but the ER vets, so he was not allowed to be pet or handled. He was pawing at my husband to let him out and we couldn’t do it because they wouldn’t let us, we cried and he looked so miserable. We made a decision that if he didn’t get better we would pull him out and let him spend his last few hours at home before taking him back in. I was not going to allow him to spend his last moments in an oxygen tank when he was playing outside earlier that day with the nurse. None of it made sense to me. We got a call from his holistic vet that night after the ER faxed her the papers and she told us not to make any decisions until we talked to her because she wanted to give another opinion based on the notes she saw… which gave me a sense of hope.

        My husband went back that night determined to pet Beau no matter what they said after we had found out that the cardiologist has unrealistic expectations for his breathing at that time. He went in and the nurse on duty said it was fine to pet him and she would open it for my husband no matter what it said. They opened it and Beau jumped into his arms and wiggled his little bum like crazy. This was not a dog who was going any time soon. We spoke with that nurse and basically Beau had shown no signs of chf, his heart obviously is slowly failing but there is no fluid and the meds are working fine now. She said basically they couldn’t figure out what happened with his breathing and that his rate was the same in the oxygen tank as it was out. So we told her we wanted him home the next day and the cardiologist agreed because they couldn’t find anything wrong other than was he assumed to be his puonary hypertension and his normal issues.

        That night I sat down and made Beau a promise (he just wasn’t there to hear it haha). I wanted nothing more the entire time he was in there to be given another chance. Like I said I had been pretty rigid with his routine and I was sort of in a sense starting a “make a wish” for my dog.

        They told us he could have days, weeks or months and that theres no way to tell. So I wrote down his five favorite things.

        Dental chews from Cloud Star or No Hide from Earth Animal
        Boiled Chicken in his Primal Freeze Dried Food or alone
        Playing with a toy or blankie Monster. he hides under a blanket and we poke him while he tries to catch our finger and makes weird growling noises… unfortunately he crawls under blankets late at night to do this haha.
        Riding in the car, or riding to the pet store for a new toy
        Walks with his dad (I stop and pet/love him too much, while he just wants to goo)

        When he can’t do three I will truly evaluate his health and consider helping him cross. I cannot let him live here in suffering with zero quality of life. That would be selfish and purely based on my ego’s needs. I realized in a sense I depend on him more than he depends on me. So every single day we do one special thing for him. He loves to stick his head out the window (which is dangerous for most dogs) and I stopped letting him years ago. Now we take him every other day (or have the past four he’s been home) to the parkway behind out neighborhood and drive along the river super slow letting him stick his head out the window for about ten minutes. He gets so happy he runs in the yard after and I don’t stop him because he is loving life. We acknowledge him even if he wants a treat at 3 am… ridiculous to some but I would do that for the next three years if I could! We play the three cups game and hide a treat under one, move them and let him paw at the one he thinks its under. He acts like its a surprise every single time he finds it. We have found ways to entertain him that won’t weaken his heart too fast. He’s the most alive I have seen him in months. We make sure our tone is always kind to each other, on the phone and to the dogs and never bring stress into the home. If we are stressed we leave that stuff at the door.

        I know he won’t be here for years to come so sacrifices while he is here are worth it because I know the day he passes I won’t regret anything. Not to mention living this way has changed this house completely… I think Beau came here to teach me a lot. When he’s gone I will make sure there will be nothing I will wish I could have done. So I encourage you to look at your dog in a different light like I decided to a few days ago. Yes, I cried in the shower a few times when he first came back… and maybe when he was sleeping :) but I am seeing him as whole again because that is how I want to remember him and I KNOW he doesn’t want to be around a mom who is constantly sad over his condition. If we had a member of our family who was ill we wouldn’t constantly remind ourselves or them that they are sick… I have lost friends to illness and never once hugged them asking what I would do without them while crying like I have with Beau, and I realized it wasn’t good for either of us. I am human, so I obviously feel emotions strongly, but I can choose what I want to do with those. So I choose to make the most out of the time I have.

        We bought one of those non-toxic clay paw print kits from amazon and used PRIME to get it here yesterday. We took his paw print (he wasn’t a fan haha) and wrote his name and the date and made an ornament that is now on my desk. I have been taking at least five pictures (maybe 40 on Tuesday :) ) of him whether that’s with both of us while he’s on my lap or whatever, but I try to take them when he is at his best and looks happiest. I want to savor these memories while I still can. So no matter what condition your dog is in now, find ways to enjoy the time you have. I feel so eternally lucky I have him now even if I only have an hour left! Although he is currently shoving that toy I bought him into the computer as I type so I am assuming I have more than an hour but you never know.

        I begged him when he came him to pass in his sleep when he was ready, or to let me know when it was his time, a sense of peace came over me and after speaking with someone who went through something similar, as hard as it is you just know when it is time for them to go.

        I do suggest that maybe you hold off on another dog for a bit until your dog has passed and you have processed your grief? If you find that you cannot do it in ways that are healthy there is nothing wrong with seeing a grief counselor (there are plenty for pet grieving). You don’t want to be distracted with a new dog while your dog lives out their last days, and you want to allow your soul the time it needs to process the death properly and not hold onto the pain years down the road. I know there is a sign at our humane society that talks about adopting after a pets death and they recommend waiting. Obviously you can do whatever you like haha that is just a mere suggestion.

        As guilty as I felt about this at first I realized there is a lot I have wanted to do but never was able to because of Beau’s condition. I have held off on traveling with friends, etc because he doesn’t do well without me and I never thought twice about my decision because I love him with all of my heart, but when he is gone I will be able to do that stuff and as much as I will miss him I have to continue to live and enjoy life because our babies want us to be happy! I will gladly take another five years before then if I could but when the time comes I will do the things I chose not to while he was here and I think that is healthy for us to find a light in the darkest of times.

        I also spent a week not eating because of this so I completely understand. I ended up getting sick for the first time in two years and then later got an infection. Definitely take care of yourself and push yourself to see there is still so much to live for and your fur baby needs you to be strong and healthy. I believe dogs feed off of our energy and you want to bring light to the time they have left!

        As for the meds my dog had to have his enalapril lowered as well. Every few months they lower and raise certain meds and his holistic vet adjusts his supplements accordingly. He is now on a liver support to help his breathing (that is related to his pulmonary hypertension) and he now drinks without coughing. So if you can, consider getting your dog into a holistic vet or their regular vet because sometimes a tweak in meds/supplements can do wonders! Don’t lose hope but don’t forget to use the time you do have to make wonderful memories!

        Im sorry for the novel. I hope this helped some!! I send you and your puppy love and positive, healing vibes!

        • felicia says:

          Thanks, Jen, for your kind words and deep I sight. I know I need to not bring my stress around my Nicole, it won’t make anything better. I am trying, also, to do something she loves everyday. I’ve been in a really morbid mood mood lately and I know I have to do better. After I lost both my parents and my child, I think I came to depend on her comfort too much. Jen, I wanted to ask you, you mentioned a liver support being given to your Beau, is this something from the holistic vet? May I ask what it is called? Maybe I could talk to my holistic vet about this for my dog. See if she thinks it would be helpful. Nicole coughs too when she drinks water. Any info I receive on this is much appreciated. Thank you to all of you who have responded to my letters. Patty, I hope you have many more days with your Maggie. God bless you all for the love and caring you show your babies!

          • Jen says:

            I am so sorry I a just seeing this now. I am not sure of the name? They are Chinese herbs given in a prescription bottle by my vet? I am so sorry for your losses. This has been such an insane year for so many I think we can all agree 2016 will be welcomed! We lost a family member two days after our wedding, I can’t imagine losing more than one but I think you need to treat yourself to something you enjoy. Definitely love the heck out of yourself right now, it’s the only way you will get through it all… Because you deserve to be happy! I hope your pup is well! Beau actually stopped eating for two days and was hiding from us. We decided to make the appt but we asked him for a sign if he wasn’t ready or wanted to go in his sleep but we couldn’t see him so sick and weak. He was refusing all food, treats and wouldn’t take his pills or play, and his coughing was so bad… His breathing wasn’t good either. Literally the morning of his appt he perked up and brought a toy onto the bed and went nuts. He then proceeded to eat his primal food (about half of his normal serving) and then he started asking for chicken. I couldn’t believe it. So we decided to wait and see and it was a miracle!! So weird. I had never seen him so sick but miracles happen!

  • felicia says:

    Jen, I am so glad you wrote about Beau. My Nicole is doing the exact same thing today. I have been bracing myself to just take her in and have her put down tomorrow, but maybe I should play it by ear and see what happens. So glad your Beau is better! Wheam wishing i had hurried up and ordered the heart program from five leaf pharmacy. One of the herbs that i realized is being used alot in their program is cayenne pepper and i just bought a book at a thrift store about a man who was about dead with heart disease and he was able to help his heart tremendously by taking cayenne. I also looked his story up on the internet. His name is Dick Qu
    Inn

  • felicia says:

    Sorry! Keyboard messing up! His name is Dick Quinn and the e book is ‘Left For Dead”. Might research using it in animals.

    • felicia says:

      This keyboard on my tablet isacting possed! Lol! I can’t hardly type on it. Could it be the spell check thing??! Anyway, thanks, Jen, for your kindness. That mean

  • Thank you for sharing your story. I relate to a great deal of it. We had a male pom, our little Bear, who suffered from “mild” seizures and unfortunately had been treated with the wrong medication for several years of his short life. Then our “new” vet put him on the right drug, but we were never told that it should STOP the seizures. So when he had a mild one, we thought it was an improvement. Then one day he stopped pooping and drinking. Went to the vet, they kept him and hydrated him to help him poop. He seemed to do well. The vet then shared that there should be NO seizures…but said to hold off increasing his dose til we got him through his current medical ordeal. He seemed better, (I was in NM visiting my new granddaughter) but my hubby was taking care of our little Bear. He seemed great the day he came home..playful and impish like always…then he had a hard seizure and while my husband was holding him, he passed away in his arms. This was only in August and it is still very hard; he was only 6 years old. Our maltese who is almost 15 was diagnosed with CHF early this year and our vet put her on enapril and Lasix and her cough stopped over night. It was amazing. However, she has lost a lot of her spunk. we tried taking her off the enapril and she actually had some playfulness again (even though listlessness is not a side effect of the med). It was nice seeing her have energy, but now her cough has started back, so we will be putting her back on enapril. I pray every day that she can enjoy whatever life she has left with me and that she does not have to suffer. Enjoy your babies for as long as you can, because we really never know when it is time for them to leave our lives. If you don’t have confidence in your vet, then please keep looking.

    • felicia says:

      Roberta, I am so sorry about your precious little Bear. And now your facing sickness again with your Maltese. Just have a suggestion you might discuss with your vet. Maybe you could cut down the doseage of the enalapril. A lower dose might still help the cough without making her lose her spunk. You also might look up about some of the holistic heart supplements supplements that help support the heart. These might also help her energy level. There’s the young at heart formula from petwellbeing.com, as well as the canine heart health supplements from five leaf pet pharmacy. Sending my best wishes to you and your pet!!

  • Robyn says:

    Erin – I’m so sorry I don’t get emails saying you asked me a question. Yes I did the hydrotherapy but because Cori is only 5 lbs I did it with an ice pack and heating pad? Because we have now been doing the herbs for over 5 years we have worked out what works for us. Qatar first is was a lot of work and herbs but once you work out a schedule it isn’t too bad. If you want to email me at Robyn.balmer@gmail.com I can go over everything I did that worked for Cori. I hope to hear from you because I really swear by the combination of medicine and herbs that we have been using.

  • Ilona says:

    There seem to be so many stories about CHF; We lost our 12year old Yorkie on Oct.17th and we are totally heartbroken. He was one of a kind, smiled when he ran to meet my husband at the door when he came home from work then would run and get one of his “woobies”, toy or mostly one of his bones and bring it to my husband and many, many other great stories that would make you laugh. The house is so quiet without him even though we have a 5 yr. old Yorkie who is a love herself, but he was the life of this house. I’ve been thinking, could the flea and/or heartworm medications that vets give prescriptions for be the culprit? Affect the heart? Just wondering.

    • felicia says:

      Ilona, I wondered that also. But I never really used the flea meds very often or the heartworm meds I only gave during the warmer months here when mosquitoes are out. I kinda think if anything in particular causesit that it may be that the dog foods aren’t as nutritious as we are led to believe. Dogs need high quality protein and the majority of the popular brands don’t have quality protein. Mostly grain products. Plus, I found out that companies can lie about how much meat is really in their product. I took my Nicole off all dog food and feed her beef and chicken with a few veggies or rice. If I ever get another dog, it will never get commercial dog food. There are more expensive dog foods that say they have better quality protein and maybe they do, but I just don’t trust them as much as just feeding my girl homemade food.

      • Shannon says:

        I agree with not trusting dog food companies. I currently feed my boxer raw and my Chi (the one in heart failure) gets a locally ‘homemmade” super premium food. Since I switched him to this food he’s been doing great!
        If you are going to do homemade, you should be sure to do your research as they need specific amounts of certain nutrients. Especially for heart health long term.

    • felicia says:

      I also wanted to tell you how sorry I am about your precious little yorkie. My thoughts and prayers are with you!

  • Sara says:

    We just lost our beloved Quincy to chf. He was diagnosed last August after being unable to breathe with ease. He had to spend a day in an oxygen tank, and 3 more nights in the hospital to get his fluids stable, but he recovered from this episode. We could tell that he also wanted to keep going (the eyes tell you), and were able to take him home, with lots of meds–the usuals that so many have already mentioned. We were told he could have 6 months to a year. He didn’t quite make that, but he lived very happily and energetically for almost 5 months. On New Year’s Eve, he suddenly declined. He couldn’t lie down for more than 12 seconds without gasping for breath and coughing. His ventricular tachycardia had also worsened. We could tell that he was exhausted and ready to say goodbye. It was an agonizing decision, but we love our Quincy too much to make him suffer. On 9:15AM January 1, 2016, we said goodbye. He left us knowing we loved him. I am so sorry for everyone who is also going through this profound sadness. Reading other people’s stories helps so much. It’s good to know we’re not alone in our grief.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Sara,I’m glad you found the courage to do what’s best for Quincy. Perhaps his spirit will return to you in another little dog. Blessings to you.

      • Sara says:

        Thanks so much, Sue, for your kind words. Courage is indeed the right word, for us and for Quincy. He told us he was ready to say goodbye, and we were able to hear him. You’ve done a wonderful thing by starting this blog. There are so many of us, unfortunately, who are going through CHF with our dogs, or have gone through it, or perhaps will. It’s a huge comfort to know we are not alone in this journey. It’s also comforting to read that what other vets have prescribed is so similar–both meds and treatments. This helps us know that no stone was left unturned. I do know that Quincy will help me find a new baby brother or baby sister for my dog, Duncan—when we’re ready. In the meantime, I will continue to read what others have to share about their beloved dogs, these angels of light who are with us too briefly. But we can’t imagine life without them.

  • Jen says:

    I thought I would leave an update from my last post months ago.

    After a very hard year Beau finally passed with help and returned to spirit on December 28, 2015. He had an amazing month, and was actually doing so well but the coughing was getting worse and we knew it was coming. We both felt so blessed he was able to enjoy Christmas and I let him play all he wanted and the pictures we took were some of the happiest I had seen him all year. Around 1 am 28th he was panting uncontrollably and his eyes were bulging. I said my goodbyes and he went to the er vet to see if there was anything left to do. He was in oxygen for about an hr and improved slightly, and suddenly he was at the point where he could not breathe without an actual oxygen mask on. It all happened so fast and he passed so peacefully.

    Two weeks prior he had seen two of the best holistic and partially holistic vets in the area. He was tested and found that he had high levels of heavy metals in his body. I had not vaccinated him since he went into heart failure and the only vaccines he did receive were rabies every few years, but due to the possibility of some reactions I did not think vaccines were worth the risk.

    Obviously I am not a doctor but I have to share this part of the story before someone else makes a mistake they cannot take back. With the titer test he had already passed with enough levels. In the state of Ma and RI there is a waiver a vet can use for rabies if your dog is not 100 percent healthy. Heart murmur counts for this. According to both vets we saw, when beau had been diagnosed with a low grade murmur that original holistic vet should have never vaccinated him after. The worst part was is that his original vet was “holistic”. She even tried to get us to vaccinate him after he went into heart failure the first time. His cardiologist also noted that is a known side affect that vets are aware of. I cannot place blame on any person. Although she left her practice after 20 years without notice to any of her patients. I realize now something was very off.

    We were told he had to have his rabies and that it was the law, ultimately we confirmed it. There is no saying whether or not he would have gone into full blown heart failure a few months after but my other small yorkie who received the oral vaccine (because it was supposed to be better for a small dog) weeks later was in the er vet with stomach problems and his perfectly healthy teeth were rotting. He lost 6 teeth total. We feed our dogs organic, raw and freeze dried. My house is entirely non toxic, even the furniture and I am convinced these vaccines did a lot of damage and no other factors. Our other two dogs have not had any vaccines in years and have come out 100 prevent healthy every 6 month checkup and blood test. That was the first vaccine my yorkie and beau had recieved in years, normally we take them in two at a time. After Oliver lost his teeth I decided not to vaccinate my other two.

    Beau’s new vet wrote and signed the waiver for him and told us if we wanted they cannot force us to ever use a vaccine on our dog again. That is a personal decision we each have to make. But had I have known that a dog with a heart murmur (even low grade) can die or go into heart failure after receiving a vaccine I obviously would not have given it to him despite this “law”.

    Beau was on herbals given to him by one holistic vet who used blood work and muscle testing, incorporating Chinese herbs. He was on oils, spark powder, cardiac support as well as vetmedin, viagra, enalipril (spelling?) and lasix. He was known as the miracle dog for defying the odds of his cardiologist and other vets which I know his herbs helped. I saw a comment on using herbs and I have to note that although I did hundreds of hours of research and used pet well being as well as paw healer and another site, I was not an expert and it was not until he saw a specialist that the real results came. There were certain herbs he could not be on while taking any meds and certain herbs his body wouldn’t react well to, or didn’t sit well with him and she was able to see that in his tests vs just my observations.

    I must say I thought my life would never go on (not really but I sure didn’t know how I’d manage) without my best friend who passed only a month after his 7th birthday, but within a few weeks I found a sense of peace realizing he wasn’t suffering anymore and taking comfort in that has made a huge difference in this house. I am so lucky I had the time I did and if you focus on that it makes all of the difference. For the last three months of his life he lived every day like it was his last and we made sure of that so in the end there were no regrets on how happy we made him. At some point the end comes for us all, so take all of the pictures you can, make the memories count no matter their health status is, and realize after it’s all done, peace can and will be found again. You absolutely have to give them a happy life while they are still here so I made sure to keep my house as joyful as I could so that he knew he was loved. Watching him suffer for the past year and losing my best friend was the hardest thing in the world, but I am glad to know I have a fur angel watching over me now.

    I send so much love to those of you going through the same thing. I tried convincing myself he could be the exception, live ten years and defy all odds. This is a cruel disease, there are no words for how horrible it truly is. All we can do is love them with all our hearts until they make their way to spirit once again.

    • felicia says:

      Jen, I am just now reading this. Thank you so much for the update. So very sorry about Beau. I am so grateful that you shared all this information with us. Bless you!

  • Sally says:

    I am so glad to have found this page and read everyones stories. I have a tiny chihuahua, my best friend, she is 17 now and has heart failure but since being put on vetmedin she has had a whole new lease of life and sometimes runs around with the other chi,s like a puppy. lately she has started having brief siezures, they only last a couple of seconds then she is fine, still has a good appetite and doesn,t cough. but I can,t help feeling this is the beginning of the end.she has a little fit most days now and sometimes two. the vet says the fits don,t hurt her but she sometimes screams when she has one which tears me apart. I don,t want to get her put to sleep while she is still obviously enjoying life but I don,t want her to suffer because I can,t bear to let her go. I am praying she will live forever, but failing that I think her heart may just fail when she is in a fit. I don,t know how I will cope when she leaves me. she has loved me unconditionally for 17 years, even when I wasn,t very lovable and has brought me so much joy. How do people cope with losing their pets?

    • Sue Huss says:

      I guess like everything else it takes time. You are lucky to have her 17 years when many others including myself have lost their babies years before that. I do believe if you decide to get another chihuahua she will come back to you if you ask. Hope these words help.

    • Sara says:

      Sally,
      We lost our beloved Quincy to congestive heart failure on Jan 1st. He was 14 years old. We’re approaching two months since he died, and although the pain is less raw, we still miss him terribly. I know how difficult it will be to say goodbye to your dear chihuahua child, but when the time comes, just know you are absolutely doing the right thing. You will know from her eyes that she is telling you it’s time. When Quincy was first diagnosed with CHF back in August, we could tell he wanted to fight. He lived extremely well for 5+ months, then suddenly, his body could no longer sustain his spirit. It was time to say goodbye. The loss of our dogs is devastating, soul-crippling. Of that there is no doubt. But there are many people who will support you. This web site was helpful, as well as the Rainbow Bridge web site. I wear my Rainbow Bridge bracelet every day in honor of Quincy. I turned to friends and family for comfort. Also, I tried to exercise every day. This truly helps. Come spring, I will plant a memorial garden, which I did for my dog Kermit, who died in 2012 of heart disease. And having Quincy’s ashes has also helped. Take it one day at a time. Grief is a very personal journey, which can’t be rushed.

  • debbie says:

    Does anyone know if there is something you can do to prevent our babies from getting such a horrible disease when they are young?? I had a 13 yr.old tiny maltese who battled this for a year & It is heart wretching…

  • Laura says:

    I have a 12 yr old female sheltie she has heart trouble and fluid around her heart the vet put her on laslix three times anday and one other pill she wont eat or drink water she hasnt moved her bowels we tryed everything to get my her to eat wont eat or drink water shes lost weight the vet wanted us to give her a week to see if she would eat and drink water im suppose to call the vet tomorrow and let her know how sohie is sophie my. Dog hasnt eaten in 5 days sophie. Is alert I dont know what to do ? I love her too much to watch her starve herself anyone have any ideas? For me what would u ,, do if u were m in my shoes?

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Laura, Take a syringe fill with water and give it to her like medicine. Go to the pet store and buy high calorie gel supplement which all pet stores carry even if you ask someone and they don’t know what you are talking about(happened to me). I given this gel to my dog many times when she just wouldn’t eat. Please let me know how she does. Blessings to both of you. You can also find this at Amazon Tomlyn Nutri-Cal - 4.25 oz

    • Di says:

      My vet doesn’t know if he has congestive heart yet. Supposed to go back to take a fasting x-ray. The vet said that they could call in the cardiologist and do an ultrasound ($800 – $1000) + cardiologist fee ($200 – $350). If he has congestive heart she said she would put him on lasix. I chose NOT to have a cardiologist come in. It’s enough for me to know of his other health issues keeping in mind his age.

      I can’t tell you what you should do. Only you can decide that for yourself and your beloved Sophie. I made a decision for my pooch’s well being. If he starts to suffer or I see him decline in illness, weight, and I have to have him on alot of medication and the “sparkle” in his eyes start leaving him, I will love him to the rainbow bridge. I will cry alot and be sad alot, but it will be better for him. Not to suffer or have his life prolonged just to see how long I can keep him breathing. Quality of life is very very important to me. Right now, even though he can’t really chase his dinosaur, he still gets excited about this “brothers” playing and loves to bark at anything he thinks moves outside.

      I’ll pray for you and Sophie. I’m sure you’ll make the right decision, whatever that may be for you and your sweet pooch.

      God Bless!

    • Sara says:

      Laura,
      One of the more common drugs prescribed for dogs with CHF along with Lasix is Enalapril. It can cause dogs to lose their appetite. If this is the other pill Sophie is taking, and if it is causing this side effect, the vet can adjust the dosage.

      But I agree with Di. When the sparkle leaves our dogs’ eyes, it’s time to say goodbye. Although it is heart-wrenching and devastating, it is the kindest, most loving final act we can do for our dogs. The love we share with our dogs never goes away, though, no matter if we’re on either side of the rainbow bridge for awhile.

    • Laurel says:

      Hi Laura,

      I remember that I had to have the dosage changed for one of medications my dog was on because a side effect was G.I problems, and anorexia. Once the adjustment was made she did a lot better.

      Also, when I would hold her on my lap and put the tiniest amount of food on my fingers, I would usually prepare rice and ground up chicken, because it was her favorite, she would often take it that way.

      I also was wondering if you had considered a consultation with a veterinary cardiologist. While it may not be for everyone, for me, it was such a gift.

      Sending you much support for you and your furry one, I know these decisions are agonizing.

    • Jennifer says:

      With our dog at his final few months, after almost a year of battling heart disease, he spent three days barely touching any food. We had scheduled an appt to have him put to sleep the next day and asked for a sign if it was his time. We realized after speaking to our vet that his dosage of one of his meds could be the reason, and after calling the cardiologist and hospital we found out that he was put on one pill too much (for his body) and when we took that down within 12 hours he was his normal self. Playing, eating, drinking. We did have to take him off his freeze-dried raw because he didn’t have the appetite for it, but homemade meals of boiled organic chicken, supplements, and veggies kept him happy for awhile. We had another two amazing months with him and he ate and played until the very last day (he was also only seven). If there is no medication side effect causing these symptoms, the best thing is definitely to say goodbye, none of us can ever be ready, but like our vet told us, make sure you are 100 percent certain because you cannot take it back. If your poor Sophie is starving herself, even if you are offering homemade meals, or treats and she refuses, her quality of life starts to diminish, so we have to ask why we are letting this happen? But if meds needs adjusting, or her food needs adjusting, don’t hesitate to do just that. It could do wonders. I send many blessings to you and Sophie! Sophie knows and feels your love and the best thing you can do is just love her until the very end and try to let go of the fear so she doesn’t sense it. Although it is hard for us, dogs live in the moment, having to let go does not take the love you shared away. Sending love <3

      • Sue Huss says:

        Thank goodness the cardiologist discovered it could be the medicine. I think it is an important lesson that we all know possible side effects of drugs that we give our babies.
        Blessings to both of you.

        • Jennifer says:

          It was a blessing the cardiologist discovered it! It was odd though because prior to this he had spasms while on enalapril and the cardiologist said that was impossible, it was our vet who took his enalapril dosage down and the spasms stopped. But then his other vet wasn’t sure (he had two one totally holistic and one integrative) that his viagra could do such a thing. Sure enough the viagra was the reason and the cardiologist solved it that time. Just shows that a second opinion never hurts, it can even prolong a life! It breaks my heart they have to go through this at all, but those two months meant the world to our family and he had the best Christmas ever.

      • Laurel says:

        I really appreciate this post, Jennifer and the words of your vet, “make sure you are 100 percent certain because you cannot take it back.”

        For me, when I had my own Sophia, it was advice such as this that prolonged her life and increased the quality of her life.

        I knew when it was time, and I knew that I left no stone unturned.

        She lives on in my heart and I have no regrets.

        Thanks again.

        • Jennifer says:

          Laurel that is exactly how we wanted to live with Beau. When his time came a few days after Christmas, we had not one regret. His meds could not be adjusted at all, he no longer responded to oxygen and his Lungs were filling slowly with fluid and meds could not help. His last day he played and ate (I remember him bringing me his new Santa toy) and that night it came so sudden… But not sudden at all when they are slowly dying from chf. We wanted to make sure we tried everything we possibly could while allowing him to still enjoy life. Even if he couldn’t quite run like he used to, or walk as far, we made sure he got plenty of treats, love and surrounded him with pure joy.

          Fur angels are the best sort of guardians anyways. Not a day goes by we don’t love them just as much as we did when they were physically here.

  • Pat says:

    I wish you all well with dealing with all this. Our Maggie has been fortunate in being stable with her meds most of the time. she has gone down a notch and is weaker. she still eats but has lost some muscle mass. Maggie was diagnosed 1 yr & 3 months ago. If she makes it through this year that will be a blessing for us and we will be sure it is the best quality of life for her. I think she will tell us when it is time as we don’t want her to suffer. She has become very affectionate in wanting love and we are doing that for sure!

    • Di says:

      I’m sorry to hear about Maggie and those that have lost their loved pooches. Mine, like Maggie, also looks for some additional love and we are more than willing to make sure he gets it. Belly rubs, belly rubs and more belly rubs…lol. I do love this sweet smiling boy!

  • Genevieve says:

    To one and all who have shared their precious journeys with their much beloved 4-legged family members – I just want to say “thank you”. I too am currently on a similar road with my dear little Maltese, Reggie. He has been my ‘court jester’ for 9 years. He came into my life as a rescue dog and I thought that he was two going on three years at the time. However with his recent dramatic health issues I discovered he was simply ‘young at heart’ and that he is in fact now 12 going on 13 (not 10 going on 11)

    As I read the entries the experiences were all so familiar. Back in mid-Jan Reggie too had a dramatic rush to the vet hospital because of difficulty breathing and he was diagnosed with advanced heart failure and pulmonary oedema. I had known he had a heart murmur but is was always asymptomatic….well that has certainly changed! Thankfully he responded to oxygen therapy and a big hit of diuretics. Like you all have described he has his regular medications – vetmedin and frusemide. At times I feel as if we have found the right ‘mix’ and that living with his life-limiting condition will be OK, perhaps just a slow, steady decline….and then the hiccup happens – be it a panting or little twitching episode (and as others have commented – why do these events happen at night or the wee hours of the morning?!)

    However in reading all the above entries I actually am feeling some relief because where one can feel the angst and/or guilt of something perhaps being missed and that you are somehow responsible for setbacks, I now realise that the ‘roller coaster’ is our new norm. So instead I can perhaps just console myself that ‘it is and will be what it is” (as cliched as that may sound).

    What resonates so clearly for me as I mused over the entries is that we all love our companions unconditionally – as they do us! That their quality of life is the paramount thing…and hence why we fret and panic when they experience health set-backs. My vet gave me salient advice when he suggested that I should think about the ‘line in the sand’ when Reggie is stable because when he is struggling then heightened emotions can impede clear judgement. and decisions made may not truly from Reggie’s best interests. My vet shared his thoughts as a dog owner who also has had to make decisions about his pet’s end of life. As I read the entries the ‘line’ that people noted was pretty consistent with what my vet and I discussed – (1) our beloveds needs to comfortable – and with heart failure this mainly means that they can breathe comfortably; (2) they deserve quality of life – to which most would agree that that have enjoyment in their day, can eat and drink adequately for optimal health, and can toilet themselves so that they maintain their dignity. My niece, who is studying to be a vet, also gave me a good piece of advice – just to keep a note of ‘good days’ and ‘bad days’ and if the latter are outweighing the former then if nothing can be done to change the reason (e.g. change of medicine dose) then think really carefully about what life has become for Reggie. I feel it is almost akin to the Advanced Care Directive that we can use to plan our own future health care.

    It would seem most know that ways medicines can be juggled when ‘turns’ happen, and I am interested in some of the complementary approaches that people have found helpful – many thanks to Alison for her detailed entries on that score!

    However whatever approaches are taken, heart failure still remains a life-limiting condition as heartbreaking as that realisation is. Part of me would love to have the proverbial crystal ball and know just what time I am to have with Reggie, but on the other hand would I simply become more anxious as ‘D-Day’ approached and then not enjoy the precious moments each day brings?

    I am fortunate enough to have dear family and friends who let me share my worries. They also constantly remind me that Master Reggie has done very well living as he has over the last 9 years. He has certainly had challenges before having been badly mauled not once but twice, and both times recovered with his charming nature intact. He has the best barometer to let me know how things are – his cheeky face and his tail – if the latter is up in a tight C-shape, then he is OK with the world and so I should be too. That has not changed with his event of his diagnosis!

    Some excellent advice given to me by others I have met, who also had dogs with heart failure, was to try and keep routines as ‘normal’ as possible – perhaps the only change to these routines is through the support of dear friends and family, I might get someone to “Reggie-sit” and to be honest they are often times when everything becomes more relaxed! Someone else to share things with.

    As I type my little Reggie is sleeping blissfully next to me on the couch…would it just stay that way!

    For the moment we will simply live each and every day!

    Cheers!

    Gen

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for sharing Genevieve and for your advice. Blessings to you and Reggie.

    • Sara says:

      Thanks, Gen, for your insightful and beautiful comments. I think they’ll be very helpful to others, as they face that line in the sand, or the “tipping point,” as our vet described that time to us. It’s never easy, but you’re so right to enjoy each and every day that you and Reggie have together.

  • Genevieve says:

    Thanks to you both Sue and Sara for the very kind words.
    Cheers!
    Gen

    • Di says:

      Hi Gen,

      Just wanted to let you know that I have a 14 year old Pomeranian and he has CHF. We had him in to the vet not too long ago due to his cough getting much worse. They have put him on hydrocodone at this point. Right now he’s holding his own and we’re just watching him and loving him like crazy.

      I read your story about your little Reggie and I know you said you have the support of your family and friends. That’s really wonderful! I’m happy that they’re there for you whenever you need them.

      Just wanted to tell you I’ll say a prayer for you and your sweet Reggie. God Bless!

  • Genevieve says:

    Dear Di,
    How lovely of you to send such a heartfelt and kind thought! It is much appreciated – as are prayers! You wouldn’t believe it but after having such a lovely day, the day I wrote my entry – the next night (that is last night) another hiccup…dear Reggie started to cough and wheeze. It does unnerve me I can tell you, but I was lucky to be at my friends’ home and one of them sat up with Reggie and me and as he rested after having an extra dose of his frusemide she even sent me to bed.
    Another spill on that proverbial roller coaster!
    Here’s sending special thoughts to you and your “little 4-legged man”!!
    Cheers!
    Gen

  • Kelly says:

    Hello. I am new to this group. My sweet baby girl that I got when she was 10 weeks old and was diagnosed with congestive heart failure seven months ago is now a 15 1/2 years old. Kashzmere … Although we call her Kashzy.
    She is currently on Vetmedin, Enalapril, and Furosemide.
    My vet recently told me that she still has a lot of life in her, but she is in the end stages of congestive heart failure. Recently she started having seizures. They don’t last long and she acts fine after they’re over but it scares me out of my mind.
    My vet changed around her medications increments a few days ago and she seems to be feeling better. But this is a completely different dog than she was 8 months ago.
    She no longer plays with her toys and sleeps most of the day. What I want to find out is if there is anything I can do to help with the seizures. Do any of you have a advice for that?
    Thank you so much. She is my entire world. I am not ready to say goodbye.

    • Di says:

      Hi Kelly,

      I’m so sorry to hear about your dear Kashzy! I’m sorry I do not have any experience with seizures. I do think you came to a wonderful source for advice. There are many many people around the world that visit this forum and I feel that someone will be able to offer their advice. I will say a prayer for you and Kashzy going forward. Di

  • Marc Anderst says:

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  • felicia says:

    Just wanted to update about my chi girl, Nicole. After a very rough year, sadly I had her put to sleep yesterday. Her struggle to breathe began to become more difficult. She began to lose muscle mass, as well. I did everything I could do to help her–cooked homeade food for her, which I think is a good thing as the pet food companies are way less than honest about the fact that there protein sources are poor quality. If I could turn back time, she would be eating chicken, beef, liver, but not a sole diet of commercialized pet food. Also, there is a strong link between the rabies vaccine and heart inflammayion/failure

    • Sue Huss says:

      Don’t knock yourself out too much I fed my dog homemade food her whole life and she still died from congestive heart failure. I do agree I don’t always follow the law and get my dogs rabies vaccinations every time they are suppose to have it. It’s not like they spend a whole lot of time outdoors around wild animals. Even when you do everything right your dog can end up with a heart murmur as I found out with my current Pomeranian who is 11. I wonder is this the beginning of the end for her? I don’t feel I have the fortitude to go through this again so soon.

    • Di says:

      I’m so very sorry to hear that you had to put Nicole to sleep yesterday. I know it’s a very very hard thing to do. You will be seeing her again. I’m crying with you. It’s very hard. God Bless.

      Di

    • Patty says:

      So sorry to hear of your loss. It is never easy dealing with a sick pet and any loss. God bless.

  • Renee says:

    My baby won’t eat ANYTHING! I’ve cooked chicken, hamburger, everything. She just won’t eat. She has chf and it just came out of the blue it seemed. She’s really bad off, she looks lost, I’m lost! All I do is cry. She’s 15 we have been together since she was a puppy. I feel half of me will go with her. I wish I could take her pain. I would. Tears

    • Sue Huss says:

      There is a nutritional supplement in a tube you can buy at a pet store for dogs who won’t eat but perhaps she is trying to tell you something. 15 is a good age but I know how you feel I wish they were here longer but if they were would it actually be even harder on us? Bless both of you.

      • Renee says:

        Thank you Miss Sue. I know your right she is up there in age. Somehow I think I thought she would live forever. Reality says I’m wrong. She just got diagnosed last week so I’m afraid it hasn’t set in yet. She just went from being ok to not eating and not walking. Lethargic. She’s my heart . It gives me comfort do know that someone understands how I feel. I pray for all of your babies above. And hope the best for each of you. Thank you for your encouraging words. I’m typing this on my phone please forgive typos and such. Be well, Renee and Dewey.

      • Renee says:

        I have a question.. does any one else use this nitroglycerin cream for CHF ? My vet has me using it every 12 hours a half of a inch in the inside of her ears. That and three other medications.

    • Kelly B says:

      Oh gosh my heart breaks for you. This happened a few months ago with my dog. Turned out that she just had a tummy ache. Vet gave meds to calm her tummy, and now she is on three meds (the blue pill is a wonder pill) Denamarim, once a day (I feel this pill is saving her life right now), Pimobendan twice a day, and Lasix twice a day. Also your dog may need blood work to see if her kidneys or liver levels are up. My dogs levels were up and she is now on renal support dog food mixed with baked chicken. Praying for you.

  • Di says:

    Hi Renee, Sorry to hear about the diagnosis for your baby. No, my vet hasn’t had me use the nitroglycerin cream yet. Luckily, my Iggy is holding his own so far. His coughing gets pretty bad sometimes though and really worries me but the hydrocodone helps that somewhat. I’m sure somepne on this site can answer your question though. People on here have a great deal of knowledge and their own experiences to share. God Bless!

    • Renee says:

      Thank you so glad your baby is doing as well as possible! I’m going ask about the hydrocodone. It seems like it would make the nights more restful from what I’ve read here. Big hug to your baby. Renee and Dewey.

  • Susan Caldwell says:

    Thank you for this website,
    My little shih was diagnosed with heart murmur,
    I’m glad I found your site I thought this was a very rare thing to happen, I had never heard of it before.
    Altho I am sorry that others has or are going through this with their fur baby, at least we know we’re not alone and can gather insight from others that we would never learn anywhere else.

    Thank You Again

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thank you Susan for sharing. My other Pomeranian has just been diagnosed with a heart murmur also. I really pray this is not the beginning of CHF for her and your baby.

    • Kristin says:

      Susan- Ask your vet about Benadryl. I posted below but to save tbe search my 10 pound chiuahua is on Enapril, pimbobenden, lasix, and bydrocodone cough syrup. My vet added a Benadryl 1 at night. Then I played around and went to breakfast amd dinner. Amazing how much it helped him!!!! It doesnt knock him out at all- Phew! Good luck
      Renee- so much love for you and your baby, its all so heartbreaking yet the flip side is that these lil guys are so LOVED by us!!!! A gift!

  • Kristin says:

    Hey there- i have read so many of these great shares. My chiahua Frank is a “stollen/rescue” yup I did it. He of course had heartworm and I treated him. 8 years later and at about 12, he has chf. The cough the weeze the fatigue. Frank like others is on Enapril, lasix, pimobenden and hydrocodone cough medicine. All of these 2 times a day. What he’s also on and I may have missed it above it BENADRYL one whole pink pill at breakfast and dinner. It doesnt knock him out like it would me and it quiets the cough Measurably! No steroids thank goodness as they always seem to bring on kidney issues etc… After the above I will go back to cooking, and cut down on Taste of the Wild wet food tucked inside ham or turkey and rolled like sushi for his pills. That may be too much sodium, thanks for that tip.

    We all love these guys so much, and go the limit for them, thats what we do.
    Funny neither my husband nor I take any medication, he’s 50 and I’m 48, but poor Frank takes 10 pills and 2ml of cough syrup daily! Thankful for every day, my vet, these posts and of course, for DOGS!
    Hugs to all of you! K

    • Shannon says:

      Just had to say thank you for rescuing him!…no matter how it had to be done :)

      I also have a 12 year old Chihuahua (is name is Memí) I got him at 9 years old… with Heartworm. Got it treated and then he went into heartfailure :(….but that was all almost 3 years ago and he’s been doing SO great since then, thankfully!!
      Diet makes a huge difference, at least for my guy it did. I have him on “Canine Life Muffins”… Not sure if they are available outside of Canada, but they are great!

  • Melissa says:

    My Chihuahua is 13 years olds and was just diagnosed with CHF with a murmur between a 1-2. He never had a cough or signs of heart problems before going to the vet for his dental cleaning. Well he can’t clean his teeth and now with the meds he’s on..all he does is cough! He has him on Lasix 12.5 1/2 tablet 3 times a day and vetmedin 1 in am and 1/2 in evening. For the cough he gives him hydrocodone 1/4 to 1/2 tablet at night. Now he has syncope since taking or if he’s missed his hydrocodone, so I’m real careful to make sure I give it to him at the same time every night. He’s weight’s under 8lbs and very lethargic now. He’s a total different dog! I believe the meds cause the coughing because when I didn’t give it to him for 24 hrs, he didn’t cough, but by 12:00 noon he was walking around and weaving from no meds. You’d be surprised what these meds do to these dogs and the withdrawal!!!! My vet told me as soon as my dog stops coughing he can get off the meds…I always tell him he wasn’t coughing prior to the meds and when I didn’t give him the meds for 1 day he didn’t cough. We both had the best night sleep!!!!

    • Shannon says:

      Hi Melissa, that seems so strange to me. What about going to another vet for a second opinion? Or calling your vet to discuss what you are seeing. Have you tried googling to see if these meds can actually cause a cough? Are you sure the syncope is from the lack of hydrocodone? That also seems very strange… My boy would passout suddenly, but it was due to lack of proper heart function… thankfully since he’s been on his meds he has not passed out once in 3 years (he is not on hydrocodone he is on Fortekor and furosemide/Lasix.
      A couple things that made a big difference for my boy….diet. He is on the best food I can find for him and when I run out before I can get more, I cook for him myself. Also stopped using a collar and got him a good harness instead. I also add the recommended dose of Omega oil and Virgin cold pressed coconut oil to his food (he loves it!)
      I think you need to talk to your vet and really have him/her listen to what you are seeing… if they are brushing you off/rushing you/not listening… there is nothing wrong with getting a second opinion for you little one. Good luck!

      • Melissa says:

        Thanks Shannon for your response. I called the vet and he had his vet tech call me back. She accused me of not giving my dog his meds since I don’t buy from them, but I had them send the script to Entirely Pets in California. As well as that my dog’s murmur was a #5 and in CHF. I told her my concerns with the drug reactions of Vetmedin and studies I found online regarding administrating Vetmedin to early without a electrocardiogram. Lots of back peddling and now my dogs murmur is so much louder from The end of Feb to June 2016. I can even hear the difference myself! Vetmedin can overwork your dogs heart if it’s not needed! Wish I did my research first… he isn’t a cardiologist. It’s all on me, I take full responsibly. My neighbors dogs heart was is enlarged to a 13 and was on vetmedin and Lasik for a short time, but she stopped giving after she got breast cancer and couldn’t work. Her dog is still alive and it’s 18 months later, different vet. I appreciate all everyone’s comments and tips!

  • Stella says:

    Hi shannon what food do you buy for your pet and how do you cook for him.. my yorkie has chf and I am unsure if how to create a healthy diet for her

  • Patty says:

    I did not know how to send a new post so doing it here. It has been a while since I have commented on here. Our Maggie is 14 almost 15 with CHF for the last 1 1/2 yrs. We are seeing signs that we may need to make a decision due to her quality of life. She is weak, and getting to where she can almost not go to bathroom. She sleeps most times and does get excited about food but we think we need to have her looked at and talk to her Vet. I know it is our decision but It might be time. We don’t want her to suffer. Such a tough thing to decide about……

    • Sara says:

      Patty,
      I’m so sorry to hear about Maggie. Talk to your vet to find out if you have any more options. You never know. There are a lot of veterinary advancements made every year. But you’re right in that ultimately you don’t want Maggie to suffer. I have been exactly where you are now, and saying goodbye is one of the most difficult decisions you’ll ever make, but also one of the most loving. It’s likely that everyone reading your post understands, and we’re 100% supportive.

    • Shannon says:

      I’m so sorry to hear about Maggie. I am dreading the inevitable as well. It may sound awful, but I do wish that when it is Memí’s time he just passes peacefully in his sleep. Until then I cherish everyday with him.
      I agree with what Sara said, speak to your vet to see if there is anything you can do to improve her quality of life, if not..I hope you will know when the time is right for Maggie. It’s the absolute worst thing about loving a dog (or any pet for that matter). I wish you and Maggie the best. xo

      • iggy77 says:

        Hi Patty,

        I, too, am sorry to hear about your wonderful Maggie. When my pom started having problems with his CHF, I had a very sincere discussion with my vet. As of now, he is holding his own but I know that he may take a drastic turn for the worse at any time. I also, encourage you to talk with your vet as has been mentioned in previous posts. You will know when it’s time to let Maggie go. Whenever that may be just know you will be doing it out of love for her. God Bless.

        Linda

      • Patty says:

        Thank you all so much. We are not giving up on Maggie for sure. Only when she is ready.

  • Patty says:

    Let me add I wish all the best with your fur babies too!

  • Allison O'Connell says:

    Hi… I’m another mom that loves her fur baby also… Nik Nik is 13 he has a heart murmur… He has no fluid build up so I have had no problem with coughing..He is talking Vetmedin 1.25 twice a day…5mg enalapril 1/2 in morning 1/2 at night..he has also been having seizures these are the worse!!!! Scares me to death!! (He falls over and let’s out the most god awful screams while moving his legs like he is running with his head arched backward) we added levetiracetam 250 mg 1/2 tablet every 8 hours…. All that being said the seizure meds have not helped so far.. I thought all this was enough for and dog but his story goes on six weeks ago he got a very bad case of Pancreatitis he almost died… But with all the love I had and a lot of meds from the vet he pulled through… I have been learning all I can about what he can and cannot eat…. But wouldn’t you know it he has a slight kick up with his pancreas last week and would not ever look at food.I could not get him to take any of his CHF meds (I thought maybe it was his time to just let go!!!! BUT no he has had no meds for 9 days now …., and not one seizure….. So I was wondering if anyone has had this happen to their dog …. So confused I don’t know what to do… He weighs 11 pounds and they found the heart murmur on January of this year

    • Sue Huss says:

      So after I looked up side effects of levetiracetam it stated new or worsening seizures. Maybe your Nik stopped taking meds was a good thing it helped you realize that maybe the meds were causing worse seizures. I had a similar experience with Enapril her coughing got worse until I stopped giving her the med. One of the side effects of Enapril was coughing. Is he eating now? There is a supplement I have given my picky dog when she wouldn’t eatVetoquinol Nutrical Oral Gel - A High Calorie Food Supplement With Omega Acids 4.25 oz. I also found when I would put a little food in her mouth and she would taste it she would then eat a little. Maybe their sense of smell dimishes with age.

      • Allison O'Connell says:

        He is eating great right now . I was just wondering if I should keep him off the meds or make him start taking them again. He looks and acts good.. I have an appointment with my vet the first of the week…

  • Allison O'Connell says:

    I was also wondering if you had any suggestions about what to feed him??? Not only does he have CHF but also the pancreatitis.. I have been cooking for him but I am afraid that he is not getting a complete diet..I have been thinking of trying the canine life muffins.. I don’t know this is all so confusing. And suggestions would be greatly appreciated… Thanks so much

    • Sue Huss says:

      High fat foods are one cause of pancreatitis which my other Pomeranain also had episodes of.
      I also cook for my 3 dogs. I use 98 percent fat free beef and add vegetables like green beans, coconut oil which is good for many things. I add other things like probiotics and dog greens which contain all kinds of good things. I wouldn’t give him the med levetiracetam with the side effect of worsening seizures especially if he is better now. Good luck.

  • reggie nadeau says:

    MY DOG has chf and is coughing…..one day, he stop eating and after 2 weeks i went to see the vet …she told me he only had a few days…..I went back home and could not give him any pills……slowly i try to make him eat….after 3 more days, i was able to give him a tiny bit of food and day after day , got him to eat more….his cough had stop completely and he was now eating like 2 dogs….nobody believed what was happening…but after one month, the cough began again and now he is back to all that stuff….vet, enalapril,lasix. he is a japanese chin….13 years old

    • Sue Huss says:

      So sorry to hear about your baby. I am currently dealing with two Pomeranians with enlarged heart and collapsing trachea. My vet wanted to put both of them on medication and they really had no significant symptoms yet. I decided not to give them the medication and continue with natural products on their food.

    • Missy says:

      So sorry my baby is still coughing too. She will cough so bad that I will think this is not fair to her, the time has come, then she will have a good day. Tears my heart to shreds

  • Missy says:

    Please…. What natural products are you using, my baby has both of these problems.

  • Patty says:

    We just had to make a tough decision to send our dear Maggie to rainbow bridge. Have appt set for Friday so at least can spend a few days with her. She had something happen to her brain, maybe a stroke. Instead of pumping her full of meds and drug her out and she won’t be able to do anything we don’t want to see her suffer and her quality of life is not good. She had a good 14 years with us and toughed it out. But her body is giving out along with the mind now. This is so hard but we know we made the right decision.

    • Sara says:

      Patty,
      I know what a sad time this is for you. Saying goodbye to Maggie is heartbreaking, but you have definitely made the right decision. It is one none of us want to make ever, but neither do we want to prolong any suffering our dear pet children might be experiencing. Know that all of us are thinking of you and with you in spirit.

      • Patty says:

        Thank you for your kind words. I was one of the hardest decisions had to make as we wish she could have lived forever! Friday was a rough day, but Maggie went peacefully in my arms. It was the right time to do it as now she is at peace with all the other fur babies who have gone before us. Gone but not forgotten.

  • Becky says:

    Omg! Your post fit my problems and dog completely for the most part.. I myself have a white Pomeranian whose name is casper. He is currently 12 1/2 years old he was diagnosed with CHF last year. We just started him on diuretics (lasix) this past Friday for his coughing. He also does have epilepsy. I am hoping and praying for your poor pup. I cried when I saw the picture of your dog. Spitting image of my boy. I’ve had him since he was born (my mom still has his mom she’s 16!) I hope Casper doesn’t end up with the same problems your poor pup has had to endure. I just felt like I had to post and send my thoughts to you and your girl much love and support ❤️❤️❤️

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for your love and support. My Precious is no longer here but I went and rescued another white Pomeranian and crazily named her Precious also. Now when I talk about her I have to say Precious #1. She now has an enlarged heart and collapsing trachea.
      It’s so sad that so many small dogs have so many health issues.
      Good luck with your Casper.

      • Missy says:

        My doodle seems to cough and struggle so bad at night, but is much better during the day. Did you find this to be the case?

  • Missy says:

    Sometimes at night i think, ok i can not do this, she must be suffering but then the next day…..SO much better. This is heart wrenching !!!

  • Anna says:

    I’m so glad to have come across this site. I have learned a lot reading everyone’s posts, and that I am not alone. My lil Luckey dog is a 14 year old Chihuahua/Cairn Terrier mix. She started coughing, choking, heaving & wheezing when she was 12. I took her to this one Vet who checked her out and said she has a respiratory infection and gave her a medication cocktail injection. She was doing ok for 2 years with occasional coughing that sounded like she was trying to cough up a hairball, that is until May of this year when suddenly she collapsed and suffered 2 seizures back to back for a few minutes. I immediately took her to see a new Vet who came highly recommended as being competent, and he diagnosed her with a Grade 4 heart murmur & CHF with Mitral Valve insufficiency. She becomes short of breath & the loss of oxygen to the brain causes the seizures. I feel so awful that she had been misdiagnosed & the new Vet was surprised that the previous Vet had not heard the very loud, pronounced & distinct heart murmur. Luckey dog is on Lasix & Enacard 2x a day. She was doing ok for awhile, and even improved but recently she started coughing more and having seizures more often again. Her breathing is labored with wheezing sometimes, and she coughs more and vomits clear foamy liquid sometimes too. It is usually worse during the night and/or when she gets excited. I have to pick her up & hold her when I come home from work to soothe her so she doesn’t get herself worked up into a seizure.
    I feel blessed that she has lived this long, and that I was able to give her a good and pampered life filled with lots of love. Luckey dog came into our lives when she was 3 years old. Before that she had been neglected and lived in a home with small children that teased her. She was so happy when she met me & came to live with us. My husband said that she thinks I am her mother because she is my shadow, and has to be right next to me wherever I am or else she cries. She is my fierce protector behaving as if she is 10 feet tall, and my dearest companion who has seen me through the best and worst moments in my life these past 11 years. She is deaf now and blind in one eye, and is so very precious to me. I am sad that she is nearing the end of her life. I guess it is between Luckey dog & God now when she passes on, and I will know when that time comes; whether she passes quietly in her sleep or must be euthanized. I am grateful for the time I’ve had her in my life & will miss her when she is gone.
    I placed puppy pads, towel, and Luckey dog’s favorite blanket next to me on couch and on my bed for her, and it seems to work good w/her intermittent incontinence. I mix in some pedialyte or gatorade with her water to replenish the electrolytes lost due to the lasix, as well as to prevent hypoglycemia. Her appetite varies, and I found Pill Pockets to be very successful in getting her to take her medicine. I buy her healthy high-end dog food that she likes, and during bouts of vomiting & diarreha have found rice & boiled chicken in low sodium broth to be a beneficial remedy.
    The medication & periodic checkups at the Vet have extended her life providing a better quality of life for Luckey dog, and I dread the day when it doesn’t work anymore. I guess when she passes on she will be happy to go be with my husband in heaven & it will be his turn to care for her until we meet again.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for sharing, I hope Luckey will be with you for as long as possible. I love your thoughts about Luckey being with your husband when she passes. I always talk to my mother who has passed and ask her to give my Precious a kiss from me.

    • Sara says:

      Anna,
      I know I speak for all of us who have made this journey with our dogs. We are so sorry to hear about Luckey. CHF is indeed dastardly, but you are doing everything you can to keep Luckey comfortable and safe until it is time to say goodbye.

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