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This is a story of my never-ending battle with congestive heart failure with my 12-year-old Pomeranian named Precious.  Hopefully by sharing this story it may help you deal with your dogs congestive heart failure.

Precious is  a white Pomeranian that was given to me when she was 6 years old. It seems she was passed around from a few different breeders who decided since she wouldn’t breed they had no use for her. So sad.

At least they gave her a name that fits, she really is precious. Whenever I would take her to the vet he would always say “She is so Precious.” He was even able to clean  her teeth without putting her to sleep since her heart condition would not permit giving her the anesthetic.

She was a great addition to our family. I had another Pomeranian who was much older and I didn’t think he would be around much longer.

Precious was pretty healthy until she turned 12 then it started with a little cough so off we went to the vet. After her examination he said she had a heart murmur and congestive heart failure and needed to be on a diuretic.

I don’t really remember how long the diuretic worked but eventually her coughing returned. On our next visit to the vet he then put her on Enapril.  Like before it worked for a while and then off we went to the vet again.  This time he prescribed Vetmedin along with the Enapril and diuretic and told me to let him know how she does.

I wish I could say that this was the magic combination of medicine and that she didn’t have any more visits to the vets, but it just wasn’t so.  I was there so many times that I no longer had to tell them my name when I checked in.

One time on a weekend she coughed so much I had to take her to the animal emergency clinic. Why do these things always happen at night or on a weekend? They gave her a diuretic shot and some oxygen and we were able to return home after a short while.

They told me to follow-up with my vet and when I did he  increased her diuretic to 2 times a day and  said I could give it as much as 3 times a day if necessary. I wish I had know that before my visit to the emergency clinic.  I really hate taking her there. Not only do you need to take out a mortgage to pay them but I never have any confidence in their ability.

Her next episode of coughing began naturally on another weekend, so I gave her another dose of diuretic and thought I might do some research online.  It was then I discovered that one of the drugs she was taking,  Enapril has a side effect of coughing.

Maybe it was I long shot but I mentioned it to my vet and although I’m pretty sure he didn’t think that was the cause of her coughing he did say I could try not giving her the Enapril.

I didn’t tell him that I already stopped giving it to her after I read the side effects of the drug.  Amazingly she coughed less and it did seem to last quite a while before the coughing returned.

This time when it returned it came back with a vengeance.  She would wake up in the middle of night and cough for what seemed like forever. I felt so helpless knowing there was nothing I could do for her.

I started to think maybe it was time to put her down. When I returned to  the vet I asked him “Isn’t there anything else that I can give her for her coughing, I don’t care if it shortens her life, I think the quality of life is more important.”

I’m think he agreed because he then prescribed hydrocodone for her. Since the majority of her coughing was at night I gave her the hydrocodone before bedtime and this really helped us both sleep. Sure she still coughed but it only lasted a few minutes and she would go back to sleep.

Of course nothing lasts forever and as fate was determined I was to take another trip down the yellow brick road.  I started to feel that the great oz ( my vet) just didn’t have any more magic behind the curtain.

But thankfully I was wrong, he suggested an  x-ray of her heart. I have to admit for a split second I thought what was the point it couldn’t show anything we don’t already know. What it did show was that her heart was only slightly enlarged so maybe her coughing was due to some other problem.

He suggested that we give her shot of predisone (a steroid) and see if that helps her.   He also gave me some predisone pills. I guess the great oz  (no disrespect meant, I really love my vet) had fixed her once again, because her coughing seemed to be under control once more.  At least it was  until the next time.

So now I give her predisone one night the next night I give her hydrocodone. She takes the  Vetmedin, and diuretic twice a day. She also has to take thyroid medicine for low thyroid twice a day. Can you believe all these pills?

This year she will be 15 years old and she still is hanging on. She usually wakes up every night (of course she sleeps in my bed) and has to drink water probably due to the diuretic and steroid and coughs for a few minutes but then is able to go back to sleep.

It’s funny how one problem solved just seems to warp into many others. She recently lost control of her bladder. I began to use a pee pad under her for a while but got tired of washing my bedding almost every night. I then found this cute doggy diaper online. I know there is a medicine that is supposed to help with her loss of bladder control but I just don’t think I can give her any more pills.

If that wasn’t enough problems, recently her seizures have returned. It’s odd she only has one when she gets really excited. That is usually when I leave or come home from somewhere. Whenever I return home, I have to quickly go inside and pick her up to try to keep her from getting too excited.

In the beginning her seizures were short (around 20 seconds) in fact if you never seen a seizure in a dog you probably would not really recognize it as one. Unfortunately,  I’ve seen more than a few with my last Pomeranian who lived to be 17.  Now her seizures have become much worse. She falls down looses consciousness along with loosing control of her bladder.

She has always been a very picky eater but lately she is always hungry. She will eat just about anything I put in front of her.  I suspect Cushing’s disease. Perhaps this is why her seizures have returned.  Seizures seem to have a connection with Cushing’s disease.

I mentioned these latest concerns with my vet and diagnosing and treating Cushings involves more blood work,  possible ultrasound of the adrenal gland and drugs with many side effects. I think we both decided with all her current problems it’s best to hold off and see how she does.

I’m always asking myself if I am being fair to her. Everyone says you will just know when the time comes to put her down, but I just don’t feel it yet.  I can only pray that I am doing the right thing for her.

The following is a picture of Precious in days before congestive heart failure.


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210 Responses to “Does Your Dog Suffer From Congestive Heart Failure & Coughing?”

  • Barb Noon says:

    Thank you for posting your story. Such a beautiful dog! My Yorkie is 14 and is on Enapril and Lasix. She also is using puppy pads as she can’t control her bladder when she sleeps. We have upped the Lasix twice so far. It is helpful to see what you tried and read about the results. My mother died from congestive heart failure, so I am sad it is happening to my dog as well. Again, thank you for the information!

  • kcbird says:

    Good post – my long-haired Chihuahua is in beginning stages of chf – and today she is getting ultrasound of her heart (already had x-ray – enlarged heart very evident). I agree that it is very sad to hear coughing and gagging at night, and know there isn’t anything to do. I sometimes pray that she will just go peacefully in her sleep – but I don’t think that is as common as I think. I am sorry that you, I, and so many others are going through the heartache of our ‘babies’ suffering with chf.

  • Christine says:

    I thank you for taking the time to write your experience living with a dog that has CHF. My dog has been experiencing ALL of the symptoms described above, unfortunately, my vet has not been so direct to me in telling my what my dog is having, although all of my dog’s medication suggest that he has CHF. After reading this article, I’m going to a different vet and tells him what I have suspected all these months.

  • have a 13 yr old scottie with chf and murmur. after this, that and the other thing she is now down to vetmedin – 1/2 pill in morning and half at night. lasix 20mg- in morning and prednisone 5 mg-in morning. There has been no coughing forover a month (start of this program). She leaks once a day while sleeping and I never seem to get the diaper use at the right time, so she gets a back half bath each time. I note there is definite weakness in her hind quarters and she is not always with us mind wise, fairly blind and desperately deaf.But she eats well. I just started to cook her food now and she loves that. I still wonder whether I am during her a favour or me one. I don’t want to go back to the vet as he won’t make that decision for me.
    Thanks to all above for the many replies. I helped me a lot!

    • Sue Huss says:

      So many times when I went to the vet I expected him to say it was time to put her down, but he never attempted to help me make that decision either. I finally made the decision when her coughing was non-stop during the day and he just asked me if I was giving her all her meds? I had to find the courage and just say maybe this is the time to just let her rest. It’s always hard but I think we’ll see each other again. I hope you will also know when the time comes to say good-by to your Scottie.

      • Since I have been cooking her meals she is fantastic. She may now cough once a day and that is a single little cough. She started on Vetmedin on Christmas eve 2012 and I was told by the vet 12 months would be max. The computer tells the same story. Now I wonder, she is doing so well. No I don’texpect a miracle, but am truly happy at how she is now.

        • Shannon says:

          Hi, I have a 10 year old Chihuahua rescue that has been diagnosed with CHF. We’ve only had him 8 months, but I’d like to keep him as healthy and happy as I can for the time he has left. I am interested in cooking for him if that seemed to help you… do you have any balanced recipes that you follow? I’ve been looking on line and it’s so hard to figure out what I should be making to be sure he is getting all the nutrients he needs.

  • Brandon says:

    My dog Buddy has CHF. I just want to make sure he is not in any pain when he is coughing or trying to sleep. The vet said if he is not whimpering or crying then he should not be in any pain. How do I know that to be true though. Buddy is on four kind’s of pill’s most two times a day. He drinks a lot of water, although lately he slowed down a bit. He still eats anything we give him. He will run upstairs or follow us. Just hearing him breath that hard is sad. I want to make sure he is given the best quality we can provide. What would your thoughts be on this? He has seizures as well. The first few were short like what you said, then they last a minute. Then he get’s right back up and act’s like nothing happen. I don’t wan’t to be watching tv laughing at a show while he is coughing or breathing o hard its causing pain, ya know. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Has your vet checked Buddy for low thyroid? After my Precious started taking her thyroid medicine she was seizure free right up until the very end when her coughing became non stop. You didn’t mention what meds Buddy was on? If you think his coughing has gotten worse you might ask your vet for hydrocodone which is a cough suppressant. I’m sorry you’re having to go through this but I’m sure your happy for the time you have left with Buddy.

  • It’s so good to hear from other dog lovers that have this particular problem. I have the diapers but Belle is very adept at getting out of them. She is very good, letting me put them on but I have yet to catch her as she gets out of them. I found that the next best thing to fight the “leaking” problem is Resolve, a stiff brush and the Hoover Steam Vac. We all do the best we can firstly for the comfort of our pet.

  • One small item I forgot to mention but a big one as far as
    Belle is concerned. During that horrible heat spell we had we bought a box fan, in hopes of deflecting some of the a/c cool air into the kitchen. It was situated at an angle at the door way. Belle settled down there, within a foot of the fan and spends at least 90% of her time there. She seems to be less laboured in her breathing. We keep our place very cool so I am sure that is why the heat bothered her so much. Yes, I worried about her 1/2 baths but all seems just fine. Anythibg I can say that helps anyone else also helps me. A side problem that I have is my 4 yr old female cat that loves
    Belle. Belle does not return her affection but Cos never gives up, always very close to her and every so often takes time to let me know how sick Belle is and why don’t I do some thing. I get a good scolding! I love my pets.

  • Shanshine says:

    Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve been up all noght after my 11yo malt kept coughing, it happems to be a public holiday so all vets are closed. I’ll have to monitor and bring him to the vet tomorrow.

    • Sue Huss says:

      If this happens on a weekend when only emergency vets are available, as it always does, you might try increasing his diuretic that’s what my vet told me to do. If you’re like me you hate to go to the emergency vet not just because of their price but I don’t think they are really that competent when it comes to issues like this.

      • Shanshine says:

        Hi Sue,

        How would you know how much to up for the diuretics?

        Anyhow, I got my boy to the vet, and he was given an X-ray, a jab of Frusemide (which he is also taking twice daily) and put in an oxygen cage for an hour. Doc says his dosage of Frusemide is already on the high side (1.4ml twice daily) for his size 4.5kg) so there’s only so much that she can push him up, and the next one would have to be a supplement. She did warn that medicine has also a limit to its efficacy.

        Sigh. His liver is also an issue, with crazy elevated ALT and ALKP. On medication and ihopefully, can be controlled with meds.

        Thanks for sharing!

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi, Thanks for your comment I guess I find sharing my dogs health problems therapeutic because you always discover someone else like you have more problems and you can be grateful you’re only dealing with what you have.
          As far as the dosage of the diuretic I believe it is 1 to 2 mg per pound of dog once or twice a day.
          I believe the third dose my vet recommended would not be a every day thing only when your dog seems to be getting worse like in the middle of the night when your unable to speak with your vet.
          I recently found out that there is another diuretic that works differently that my vet gave a dog whom I was pet sitting for. This dog was on all the other regular meds Enapril, Vetmedin and a recently increased dose of his diuretic, but he had a hard day coughing and when I took him to the vet for his owner he gave him a shot which was a diuretic and another prescription for the diuretic I never heard of. He said it works in another way from the one he had been on. I know this was all just to hold him over for a few weeks because I found out his owner had to put him down today. I guess your vet was trying to find the easiest way to tell you that maybe it’s time to put him down. I know if you’re like me I wanted someone to tell me because I didn’t want the guilt of deciding when it was time, but my vet just would never suggest it. If you’re not sure just come out and ask him what he thinks you should do. Sorry for the long rambling answer but I hope everything works out for you.

  • Allison says:

    Hi Sue,

    Thank you for sharing your story. I have a 9 year old Maltese, Chase, who was diagnosed with severe MV insufficiency this past summer (July 2013). At the time, the vet started him on Vetmedin, Enalapril, and Lasix (12.5 mg once a day). A week in to treatment, his platelet count dropped to 30,000 and he was taken off the enalapril and started on prednisone and carafate. After a week, his platelet count normalized and he was on the road to recovery. Over the course of the next few months, the vet doubled his lasix to 12.5 twice a day and added 12.5 mg Aldactone. Recently, I noticed that Chase was coughing, not breathing as well and was having more activity intolerance than usual. I listened to his lungs (I’m an RN and currently in medical school) and I heard crackles, which of course meant fluid was building up in his lungs. He was also diagnosed with a collapsing trachea and so I gave him several PRN doses torbutrol to help with the cough and to calm his anxiety, but nothing seemed to help. I took him in to see his internal medicine/cardiologist vet this morning and they told me he had gone into full blown heart failure. By the time we made it to the vet, his tongue and gums were blue! I was so devastated. They immediately gave in 40 mg IV Lasix and placed him on Oxygen. At that point, they gave me two options: 1) Put him to sleep or 2)Place him in an oxygen chamber and continue to diurese him with IV lasix until his breathing improves. Well, at this point, #1 was not an option for me b/c before we got to the vet, Chase was running around and barking with my other 2 dogs like nothing was wrong. Of course, it wasn’t like he used to do it when he was a puppy, but he was holding his own with the other dogs. The vet told me that his prognosis with the IV Lasix and Oxygen chamber was good. If we can see him through this, we can increase his Lasix and he will have at least 6 months or longer. Right now, I’m sitting at home and my baby Chase is still at the vet receiving all of his treatments. I’m waiting to hear back from the vet about how he’s doing. The last I heard is that he is starting to “pink up”, but his breathing is not out of the woods yet. I’m so torn up and I just keep crying when I think about it. Sue, I don’t know how remained so strong during when you were going through this with Precious. By the way, I also have a Pomeranian, too. His name is Flash. He’s all black with with a little white streak on his belly :) I’m sorry to have written a book here, but I wanted to thank you again for sharing your story. It has truly been an inspiration to me and is helping me to cope with what I am going through with Chase. Thanks! Allison

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Allison, Your story is the true inspiration, I can’t imagine holding it together after all you’ve been through. On a brighter note my last Pomeranian before Precious lived to be almost 18. I hope your Flash lives a long healthy life. I’ll be thinking about you and Chase and hope your last days together are good.

      • Allison says:

        Hi Sue,

        I am so sorry for taking so long to reply to your response. Things got so hectic with Chase being so sick…I was in the middle of final exams and the holidays were right around the corner. After everything we went through, I had to decompress and by the time things got back to normal, classes were back in session. Anyhow, I wanted to thank you for your sweet words of encouragement during my difficult time. We have had a few ups and downs since Dec, but I am so happy to report that Chase is doing remarkably well now. I am going to respond to Shirley Hart’s post and detail the medical and holistic protocol that I have Chase following.


    • Peta Bray says:

      Hi Allison,
      I’ve been reading all that you have written about Chase, and I have a 13 year old Bichon who has the same problem.
      Please would you be kind enough to send me the PDF of the natural meds he is on and also the food that you cook him.
      We have just lost our cockapoo due to an infection that consumed her body, and it was heartbreaking. I do not want to lose Baxter, our Bichon too.
      Thanks so much for posting your story.
      God Bless –
      Peta Bray

  • Cher says:

    my 11 yr old toy poodle shitzu mix …6 pds was diag w chf in october. her coughing is most severe when sleeping or when dad or mom come home from work. she is on furosemide 3x a day .6mg and 1mg of liquid pimobendan 1x day ….question i see mention of a steroid being given. i know the pimobendan is an appetite suppressor so we hv added 1\4 of .5mg pred to her food. that is helping here eat now..not by dr. script’ but hv our other dog taken it daily for past 3 years. so we hv it on hand.
    scared…not sure of proper course to take w her….she pee’d today on the couch, she looks sad …. and tht makes us equally sad.
    i know nothing can be done i just felt the need to write…

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi, I’m glad you wrote. It seems so many pet owners are going through the same problems with CHF. Pimobendan the generic form of Vetmedin is what my Precious was on also. It’s not really an appetite suppressant but the side effects can be nausea, diarrhea and loss of appetite. I personally wouldn’t give a steroid to increase her appetite because steroids have their own set of side effects including increased thirst and suppressing their immune system which is why maybe she peed on your couch. Why don’t you try real food to get her to eat, if that doesn’t work just tell your Vet that Pimobendan is not something you want to continue with because of it’s side effects. Perhaps he can suggest lowering the dose and see if that works.
      If her coughing at night gets too bad don’t be afraid to ask your vet for a cough suppressant to give her a better quality of life while she is still here. My vet gave my Precious hydrocodone but not until I insisted she must have something. Precious never peed on my couch but she would frequently be incontinent because of the diuretics. I used a pee pad and towel on the couch where she always slept during the day and a doggie cloth diaper at night because she slept with me. I hope this helps.

  • sandi davidson says:

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Buster my ten year old Boston Terrier was just diagnosed with CHF. Aside from the diuretic and en April he is also on an antibiotic for an upper – respiratory infection. He started his meds last Thursday and I have seen zero improvement. I don’t know what to expect since it’s been a few short days. His vet believes the prognosis is good, which makes me cautiously optimistic. My biggest concern right now is getting him to eat. Forget dog food, he even turns away from doggy treats including freeze dried chicken and yummy duck jerky. At first I cooked rice and chicken. That worked once. Then hamburger and rice. Again worked once. Moved on to steak, which he accepted hand fed a few times. Now nothing. I’m at my wits end. I wonder if anyone else experienced appetite loss with any of the meds? I’ll call the vet tomorrow to see if a steroid shot is advisable.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Sandi,
      Thank you for your comment. I was wondering what was the vet’s reason for your Buster’s lack of appetite.
      My Precious had no problem eating more than usual. I don’t know if any CHF drugs cause a loss of appetite. Could he have another problem for appetite loss such as low thyroid, dental problems, or even more serious health problems like kidney failure, liver problenms or cancer? I think a steroid might help temporarily but it’s just masking the real problem of his lack of appetite. It’s possible your vet seeing your concern over Buster’s CHF didn’t want to alarm you with the possibility of any other health problems. I hope you and your vet can find out the reason for his appetite loss. I hope you will let me know.

      • sandi davidson says:

        Hi Sue,
        Eventually Buster did get his appetite back and we had three months of him being his normal self before he took a turn for the worse very dramatically and suddenly. We took him to the vet, where he stayed for several days. One morning we were called to be told he had passed in the night. Heartbreaking.

        • Sue Huss says:

          It’s sad he couldn’t die at home but perhaps Buster felt that it would be easier on you this way. I’m so happy you had 3 good months with him before he got worse, I’m sorry it couldn’t have been longer. Blessings to you.

  • jennifer says:

    your story hit home with me. my 11 year old chihuahua has chf and was diagnosed 2 months ago. at first the vetmedin and lasix worked like a charm — then the coughing started. now she has steriods and the cough medicine plus the other two. you story is so similar to mine. my ferret is also in chf and adrenal gland disease and was diagnosed 6 months ago and has no true signs of either too often.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Jennifer,
      You didn’t mention if your chihuahua was on Enapril also. You might want to try eliminating that drug if it is O.K. with your vet and see if the coughing improves for a while. It worked for me, but like everything else it was just a temporary fix. I hope your last days with her are good.

      • jennifer says:

        no she isnt on that medicine. the only thing they added was a steriod for a week to help with inflammation. she goes back on wed to see if there is any progress

  • Shirley Hart says:

    Just wanted to say I am going through the same thing with my little yorkie “tiki” – she has had this for about 2 years — they have her on vetmedin and Lasix — but she is coughing most of the time. She will not take her meds – I have to force them down her –morning and night — she has swelling etc. She has no problem eating but I do notice her not breathing to well at times. I am afraid to almost pick her up because I am afraid she can’t breathe with any pressure on her. Do you think the vetmedin is making her cough more? I hate to take her to the vets because she gets so upset that the last time she passed out. It just kills me to see her like this. I am not sure what to do. Have any of you tried natural herbs to help? Are they a waste of money. The vets just want to push more pills and more tests and like I said she can’t take that. I just don’t think I can put her down but then again I do not want her to suffer. This is so hard. Friends that come around and hear her coughing want to pick her up and pet her and I am like – that won’t help, just makes her worse . You just feel helpless. well thanks for listening!

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi, From what I read the most reported side effects of Vetmedin are poor appetite, lethargy, diarrhea, dyspnea, and weakness. The Vetmedin is such a large pill it was hard to give even a half of a pill to my dog also. I broke it down into two smaller pieces and put it in braunschweiger. If you’ve never heard of it is a sticky meat composed of liver and pork, you can find it by the lunchmeat. I’ve never found a dog who doesn’t love it.
      The trick is put a small piece of pill into a small piece of meat. If the piece of meat is to big your dog will have to chew it and usually ends up spitting the pill out. They are so clever aren’t they. It the meat is a small piece they will gobble it up with hardly a second thought, especially if you already let them try it and they liked it. Hope this works for getting her pills down.
      I have tried natural products but I’m not sure if it made any difference perhaps it gave her a little longer to live it’s hard to say. I agree picking your dog up just puts pressure on her lungs and possibly make the coughing worse. If she is coughing continuously I think maybe you should ask your vet if he thinks it is time to put her down, I know it is a terrible decision to make on your own and I don’t think vets will bring the topic up first. I hope you can find the courage to make the right decision, it’s so hard parting with our canine children many people just don’t understand.

      • Mary DiDia says:

        Peanut butter with 1/2 vetmedin works fine with my dog. He licks it off my finger and just swallows it. So easy!

    • Allison says:

      Hi Shirley,

      I posted back on Dec 3, 2013, when my Maltese, Chase, had an acute decompensation episode with his heart failure. If you have a minute, you can take a look at my post. At the time, Chase was extremely sick as he was in severe pulmonary edema (he was literally drowning internally due to the excessive fluid inside of his lungs). He was kept overnight in the ICU part of the ER. During his stay, he received over 300 mg of IV Lasix and had to spend 12 hrs in the oxygen chamber.

      When I was finally able to take him home, he was better, but he was still walking a fine line b/c he still had some fluid in his right lung. I am an RN and also I’m currently in medical school so I have extensive medical training. I am able to listen to Chase’s lungs with my stethoscope and the vet was comfortable with my titrating Chase’s Lasix until his lungs were clear (meaning I could hear no fluid with my stethoscope). For about a week, I listened to Chase’s lungs before every dose of Lasix (he was taking 20 mg BID [twice a day). If I heard fluid, I would increase his dose of Lasix. After the 1st week of him being home, I had increased his Lasix from 25 mg daily (12.5mg in the AM and 12.5 mg in the PM) to 72.5 mg daily (40 mg in the AM and 32.5 mg in the PM). The vet has also increased his Vetmedin from 1.25 mg BID to 2.85 mg BID and his Spironolactone from 6.25 mg BID to 12.5 mg BID. Despite my increasing his Lasix and the increase in all of his other medication doses, he still had fluid in his right lung! Although he was asymptomatic, I was beside myself because I knew that the residual fluid in his right lung was not a good sign bc it meant that he could decompensate and we would be back to square and in the ICU/ER again.

      I researched and read studies about dogs with heart failure. I wanted to make sure we weren’t missing anything with his medical treatment. I learned that we had all of the medical bases covered so I then started researching holistic and complementary therapies for dogs with heart failure (HF). I worked as an RN in cardiology for several years and one thing I know is that diet is critical with HF patients, especially salt intake. I spoke with my vet about it and she didn’t think that changing his diet would make much of a difference (he was eating Blue Buffalo- Salmon and Sweet potato formula). The medical treatment that animals receives strongly parallels human treatments so it made sense to me that if changing a human’s diet can lead to health improvement, it should be true for a dog.

      In my research about homemade dog food, I learned that dog food manufacturers aren’t required by law to report the amount of sodium in there food. However, you can get this info by contacting the company directly. A dog with severe heart failure should not consume more than 20 mg of sodium per day. Most commercial dog foods exceed this 5-10 fold! Also, I want to bring up another point. I have a hard time giving Chase his pills so I would coat them in peanut butter. 2 TBSP of peanut butter contains about 160 mg of sodium. I was giving about 1 tsp with his pills twice a day, which worked out to be about 50 mg sodium. The is more than double the amt of sodium he should have per day and that didn’t even include the sodium in his commercial dog food. A super bright light bulb went off and I knew that I had to have 100% control over his food.

      I started making his food myself. I have used both recipes from http://www.homemadedogfood.com. When making these recipes, you have to add a supplement so I added Dinovite and Lickochops. As far his pill delivery, I don’t like to mix it in with his food b/c I want to ensure he take all of it. I bought a pill crusher and I crush all of his meds into a fine powder. I either mix the powder with a little bland baby food, a tsp of the lickochops, or a little of his homemade food and we haven’t had any issues.

      Chase’s HF is due to severe mitral valve insufficiency (MVI) so focused on therapies that were directed toward MVI. This is the following holistic protocol I have him on:

      -Ubiquinol (ordered from mercola.com b/c they have it in a convenient liquid form you can pump in the food- in human studies, ubiquinol strengthens the pumping action of the heart- we call it the EF)
      -Krill Oil (same as ubiquinol comment)
      -Vitamin E drops (dogs with HF have been shown to be deficient in Vit E)
      -Arginine, GPLC-Carnitine, and Taurine (these are all amino acids that have been found to be deficient in dogs with HF. Arginine is thought to help with activity intolerance and shortness of breath. I have the powdered form of Arginine and Taurine, but I have to crush the Carnitine).
      -DRibose: This has been shown to specifically improve the strength of the heart in dogs with HF due to MVI. Comes in a powder
      -B Complex: Another deficiency seen in dogs with CHF (I crush them).
      -Hawthorne Berry and Red Clover: I am using these herbs is used for their diuretic effects. I bought them in the drop form.

      I think that’s pretty much it for the holistic protocol, but if I realize I left something out I’ll let you know.

      Ok…now, for the great news. After being on homemade food and the holistic protocol for 1 month, Chase was a completely different dog. The months leading up to his diagnosis and he literally looked depressed. When he started his initial treatment, he didn’t seem as depressed and lethargic, but he wasn’t the playful, energetic, happy-go-lucky dog that he used to be. I took Chase in for his follow up. After starting my holistic protocol, Chase was full of energy and running around like a puppy and his lungs were COMPLETELY clear!!! I was so pleased and I couldn’t wait to go back for our 1 month follow up with the vet.

      The vet could not believe her eyes when she saw Chase. She said she had never seen him looking this full of life since she started treating him. She took him back to run labs and do a follow up echocardiogram and she came back with phenomenal news. All of his blood work was perfect, but I have even better news! The size of his Left atrium has decrease 2 mm from his baseline measurement when he was first diagnosed in July 2013. His dilated left atrium was decreasing in size and his heart function was starting to show improvement! She was happy and shocked at the same time! She just told me to keep doing everything that I was doing, lol! It’s been 2 months since that last visit and we have another follow up tomorrow so I will definitely keep you posted.

      I’m so sorry for writing a book, but I just hope that some of this information is helpful. I know exactly where you are b/c I was at that place 3 months ago. My heart goes out to you and Tiki <3. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I will try to give you as much info as I can.


      • Dawn says:

        Thank you for you holistic info Allison. Can you please send me your info on where you buy your products? Thank you. :). jeffers_dawn@yahoo.com

      • Shanshine says:

        Wow Allison, your post has been greatly informative. My dog has been on homecooked food + kibbles all along. After he came down with CHF, I added in supplements, but only those that my vet ‘gave’ the okay for, based on what she knows as medically, she cannot attest to the efficacy of alternate/holistic medicine which I would be more keen to pursue.

        Since the one episode of having breathing issues in Nov 2013 (he was diagnosed in Apr 2013), there has been one other recurrence on Valentine’s Day this year and he is on increased dosage of Frusemide and added in a second diuretic, Spironolactone. Since then, incidence of him coughing has reduced significantly, but he has started wheezing, owing to a second condition that has developed; canine bronchial disease, which is quite similar to asthma in human. Oral medications are out as it would worsen his heart condition, and he is currently on antibiotics and if it gets worse, he may have to be on Ventolin.

      • Beth says:

        Can you please tell me how much of each holistic supplements u give your dog please and post where u buy them from!! Thank u so much!!

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Beth, not sure who this question is for? Whatever you give your pet it usually is based on your dog’s weight. It’s best to visit a holistic vet so you can discuss what your dog may need.

        • Allison says:

          Hi Beth,

          Here is some info about where I get my supplements:

          Dinovite and Lickochops: http://www.dinovite.com. This is the supplement I add to balance the nutrition in the homemade food to make sure that the dogs get all the nutrients they need.

          Liquid Ubiquinol and Liquid Krill Oil:
          http://products.mercola.com/healthypets/krill-oil-for-pets/ and http://shop.mercola.com/catalog/ubiquinol,172,0.htm I ordered from http://www.mercola.com b/c they have it in a convenient liquid form you can pump in the food- in human studies, ubiquinol strengthens the pumping action of the heart- we call it the EF)

          Vitamin E oil: http://www.puritan.com/e-beauty-products-010/vitamin-e-oil-30000-iu-000810 or http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GG6FCA/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (dogs with HF have been shown to be deficient in Vit E)

          The following amino acids and herbs, I ordered from Amazon and Vitacost.

          Arginine, GPLC-Carnitine, and Taurine (these are all amino acids that have been found to be deficient in dogs with HF. Arginine is thought to help with activity intolerance and shortness of breath. I have the powdered form of Arginine and Taurine, but I have to crush the Carnitine). http://www.vitacost.com/a-naturals-l-arginine-crystalline-powder, http://www.vitacost.com/jarrow-formulas-gplc , and http://www.vitacost.com/source-naturals-taurine-powder

          DRibose: This has been shown to specifically improve the strength of the heart in dogs with HF due to MVI. Comes in a powder. http://www.vitacost.com/aro-vitacost-black-series-energy-pure-d-ribose-5-grams-10-6-oz-300-g-1

          B Complex: I just bought this at Walmart. Another deficiency seen in dogs with CHF (I crush them).

          Hawthorne Berry and Red Clover: I am using these herbs is used for their diuretic effects. I bought them in the drop form. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q3YMTG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and http://www.vitacost.com/natures-answer-red-clover-flowering-tops-alcohol-free.

          I hope this is helpful! Please keep me posted on how things work for you. I can also email you a pdf file of my dosage notes. My dosage calcs are based on a 10 lb Maltese so you may have to adjust the doses for your baby.


          • Beth Paradis says:

            Thanks Allison, i did what u suggested and have had a holistic vet come and see him, she will be contacting his vet and together work with what supplements to give him. She will be returning Friday, she also did acupuncture and cold lazer therapy. Seems to have helped, he seems to have more energy. Thanks so much for sharing ur story, it has given me some hope.

          • Sue Huss says:

            Hey Allison, I think you should consider writing an article for my site. Let me know.

          • Beth Paradis says:

            Paco is a 9lb Chihuahua and just turned 11. He has a grade 4 murmur and enlarged heart. Coughs every day but not constant. He is on tussigon, Furosemide, enalapril, Vetmedin, Terbutaline , and thyroxine plus carafate and baby gas x.everything is. 2x a day Tussigon and Terbutaline sometimes 3x a day. I’ll find out Friday what supplements will be added. He is also on salt free diet, and i dehydrate is own treats salt free. Bottled water in fresh running fountain. He has a cooling coat to keep him cool and from overheating.

          • Kay says:

            Thank you for posting the holistic info. You mentioned that you have a PDF file that list the dosage that you gave to you 10lb. dog. Can you forward this to me? My email address is kgoode804@yahoo.com. Thanks for your help.

          • Nina says:

            Allison, I would be very interested in the PDF. My dog has the exact same diagnosis as yours. Can you send it to frysgirl@gmail.com – I already purchased the Dinovite and Lickochops. Thanks!

          • Joy Harbaugh says:

            Allison your post is what gave me hope for my 10 year old Chihuahua with a stage 4 heart murmur. I would very much like to have a copy of your PDF on amounts of supplements. My Melia weighs 7 pounds which is optimum weight for her. I just switched to a low salt pet food for starters. She is having the occasional seizure now which freaks me out. I never realized the Enalpril could contribute to the coughing. The vet said it was okay to give her one every 12 hours, but I have not done that after reading the thread here. Thank you so much for your input. Please send PDF to joytjuj@aol.com.

          • claudette says:

            Gave misty a kiss for you while she was getting her q3h doggy massage.My heart breaks for you Juliette.Take care,and keep us informed of your progress.I worked hi risk,and normal obs for 18 years,and know quite well how much harder your grief I’d bearing on you.Take comfort your precious is no longer suffering and running free and happy.A special guardian to look over your child.If it continues to hurt for much longer maybe you could talk to your dr.There are various ways to help you through your grief that they can discuss with you,and please know I am here if you need to chat anytime.I haven’t lost my faithful companion yet,but the time is near,and I have been administering her care at home under the supervision of the vet.She became quite ill in july,and we did not expect her to make it 2 weeks and here we are in November.Every day I have her with me is a another reminder of how dear she is to me and truly I don’t know how I am going to do it.I have lost my mom,and grandmother and even though I was very close to them it didn’t hurt near as much as what I know I have to face.She’s my better half,the only one who knows the depth of my soul.My car never moved without her,standing between the seat on the look out for moose,and bopping to the music when she heard a song she liked!(people often laughed when they were parked at the lights with me because they could see her dancing to the music.So even though I haven’t gone through what you have I can empathize with you.I so wish the end could have been better for you,but sadly it wasn’t.Write your feelings down and send them to your vet.If it stops this happening to one more beloved pet your foxy will not have died in vain.Hang in there and I am here for you.Take care.hugs.

      • Ruth says:

        Howdy is a 16.5 year old maltese mini size. He has a heart murmur and cushings disease. I too started cooking him his own meals months ago. It made a huge difference. I just stick chicken breast, a piece of liver (for flavor eventhough high in cholesterol) can of pumpkin, brown rice and water in the crock pot. When done, I run it through the food grinder. At first he didn’t like it so I sprinkled some fresh cooked hamburger on top. It made a huge difference with the coughing but now the coughing has returned. Of course, this always happens on the weekends! I have him on 2 Pimobenden per day + 20 mg. Lasix. I started him on Amoxil yesterday to prevent pneumonia. I know he needs a shot of prednisone but taking him to the vet is so stressful on him. His tongue gets purple. Right now, his tongue and gums are a great shade of pink! Any suggestions for him until the vet opens in the morning? I have Prednisone here but with his Cushings, I am reluctant to give it to him. Thanks. Ruth

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Ruth, While I hate to give any advise when it could be wrong but I can tell you what my vet told me that it would have been OK to give my Precious another dose of her diuretic, this it what the emergency clinic gave my Precious a shot of Lasix and oxygen. They tried to keep her overnight but I said no she needs to be with me.
          I guess it all comes down to Howdy’s weight and when you gave it to him last. I now how you feel it always happens on weekends and nights. Why don’t you call the emergency clinic and tell them you are unable to come for whatever reason and ask to speak to their vet for some advice. Then next time your at your vet ask him what you can give Howdy if it happens again on a weekend (because you know it will), perhaps he can give you a prescription for hydrocodone also which suppresses cough. I know it is frustrating and a never ending battle with drugs that only work temporarily. Good Luck

      • Laura says:

        Hi Allison: I too have a 10 lb. maltese with Advanced Heart Disease/CHF. I was hoping you could send me your holistic regiment and dosage information. I’d like to give it a try. He is on Lasix 2 pills/2x day, Vetmedin and Enalapril. Along with hydrocodone at night.

  • Sue says:

    CHF stinks!!! My Eli is about 11, not sure of his exact age because I adopted him from a shelter. Best dog ever. Diagnosed with CHF 7 months ago. I was told statistically 50% of dogs live 6-12 months longer after diagnosis. It was a wait and see to see what 50% he fell into. Well, he’s at the Animal Emergency Hospital right now and will be there for at least the next 12 hours, IV Lasix and oxygen tank. Respiratory rate is 60 (normal is around 20). He was coughing and coughing for some reason and would cough up foam. I gave him another dose of his Lasix but after 2 hours took him to the hospital. Had to put down a deposit and it was over $1000. Money was never an object with my furkids (not that I make a lot), but I’ll worry about how to pay for it later. I am now struggling with the thought of even if he rebounds, when will be the next time. What about when I’m at work and he’s crated, what if he starts the non-stop coughing when I’m gone and he’s suffering for hours and hours and I’m oblivious at work? As CHF progresses it will be more trips to the vet (hopefully not the emergency vet!) and increase in meds which means more thirst, urination, lethargy, weight loss….is that really quality of life for my doggy soul mate?? I don’t know. Guess I’ll know more in the morning. But now just reminding myself to not redefine what a “good day” is (in terms of Eli’s days) and his quality of life, not unfortunately longevity, is what matters most. Hard to not use those interchangeably…

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m sorry Eli is doing so bad. When Precious started coughing non stop during the day, that was when I decided it was just too much for her. It’s so hard to make that decision so I hope you have the strength to make yours since it sounds like you’ve done so much for Eli already.

  • Shirley Hart says:

    Thanks for your reply Sue, and you may be right – It might be time to let her go which breaks my heart, but I can tell she has trouble breathing some days. She might have a day or so of not coughing most of the day, but then the next day she is right back to it. She is worse when she is around me because she is so attached to me and gets more excited when I talk to her, etc. I just told my husband today that by the time her next refill is due on her meds., (she has been taking these meds for about 2 years) that if she is still coughing and kinda gasping for air at times, that I am going to have to make that decision. Thanks for your post, it lets us know we are not alone in this.

  • Shirley Hart says:

    I meant to check the box to notify me of follow up and forgot so that is the reason for this post!

    • Shirley Hart says:

      Gosh, thanks Allison for the report on your dog. I know that dog food that we buy is bad, I try to buy the organic – natural stuff – but you never know. I am going to try making her food and the supplements you talked about. She is so sweet and gentle to everyone, she is a perfect little yorkie – she holds her ears up and she is very tiny (Which I think might have been her downfall – being so small). She is not doing well at all the last couple of days — coughing, etc. I am going back to your post and look at those cooking ideas and see what I can do. Glad your little doggie is doing well and congrats on going to medical school – sounds like you will be the type of Dr. that we need. Maybe you should become a vet., yep you would be great. Thank you very much for your concern. Shirley

  • Karen says:

    Sue I read your article with tears in my eyes-I have a 13 year Boston that is my old girl and I love her so much. It started with a cough and off to the vet we went. He tells me she has a heart murmur and put her on benzapril for the murmur and furosemide for the fluid build up-she has been on it for about a week now and the cough seems to be worse not better-I am off to the vet again tomo-I am going to have him xray her heart and some other things to cover my basis-I do know that this is the start of end which according to him is still 3 to 4 years but I feel so helpless and like I am not doing enough to make her comfortable-Thanks for this article I am glad I found it

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Karen, I feel your pain I hope you can have a little longer cough-free time with your girl. I know every case is different but I think maybe your vet is stretching the facts a little when he says that the end is 3 or 4 years away. That would make her 17 years old which is usually the age that healthy small dogs live until. I’m not saying this to upset you but only so you don’t end up thinking you did something wrong.

  • Miri says:

    Hi Sue

    I have a chihuahua furkid called Akie. He is 13 yrs old and he has been diagnosed with CHF stage 3 recently. Aparts of this he also having trachea collapsing which contribute to his coughing daily. I have been in and out to the vet quite often recently and nothing seems to ease his coughing.. His coughing is getting worst. Apparently, he is having Fortekor, Vetmedin and Furosemide for his heart enlargement. As for his coughing, he have to take Codeine, Butorphanol Injection and Pentosan Injection. I feel so depress whenever he is coughing… Nothing I can’t help to make him feel better…
    I am still working very hard and hope that he could be better because I really don’t want and couldn’t let go of him.. I know he is suffering and I don’t want him to suffer too… But I really couldn’t take it anymore…

    He has been diagnosed with heart enlargement 3 yrs ago, during that time he has been hospitalized but he recovered… I have been maintaining him by all the medication in correct timing each day, low sodium diet and no strenuous activities. Apart of all the medications, he is also been taking Taurine, CoQ10, Hawthorne, Omega Fish Oil and etc supplements… I really have no idea where goes wrong recently… I just wish n hope that he will speedy recovery the soonest. The vet just told me that if I would have him for another 6 to 12 months… He should consider that I am extremely happy and lucky…


    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Miri,
      It sounds like your blaming yourself for him not getting better. Perhaps it’s just time for him to go. Maybe if you believe in reincarnation like myself you can take comfort in knowing that he may possibly come back to you, if not in this life maybe the next.

  • Laura says:

    Hello Everyone,

    I’m so grateful to have found this site. I’ve read everyone’s story and the love that is evident for all of the pups is palpable. I thought I’d share my story as well just to add to the pool of support.

    My little TatorTot is a poodle/min pin mix. Crazy cute! She is currently 15 and a half years old and acts like a puppy. She has been diagnosed with collapsing trachea and CHF. The official diagnosis for CT was about 6 yrs ago and CHF was about a year and half ago. I kicked into high gear as things unfolded and so Tatie has a cardiologist, a general practitioner, a holistic vet and an energy worker. Like so many of you I feel as though I should be doing MORE and I often feel guilty when I balance her healthcare with my wallet. I haven’t curtailed any treatment for her yet, but my cash flow is not unlimited!

    She never needed any treatment for CT. It has progressed and since there’s such a fine-tuned balance between the respiratory system and cardiac system, when one progresses it effects the other. Since her CHF diagnosis, she’s been on Pimobendan, enacard (enalapril), furosemide, and amlodipine. None of these meds dosages have needed to be changed since her original diagnosis. She sees her cardio three times a year and he does diagnostics every other visit (blood work, xray and sonogram if needed). Tatie’s heart actually diminished in size a bit as of last August. I was thrilled. I realize, however, that these conditions continue to change and new plateaus are reached which is hard to adjust to, but like so many of you mentioned, we adjust until we KNOW we can’t (they can’t) any longer. Ugh. Don’t want to think about that right now….

    As I mentioned, Tatie sees a holistic vet as well. She takes 4 Chinese herbs for cardiac/lung support, and is on 9 supplements that I mix into her food. (Standard Process brand). The supplements are designed for cardiac/pulmonary support plus whole body support, arthritis support, etc. In addition, she received cold laser treatments for heart/lung every 10 days-2 wks. Every month or two she also receives acupuncture or chiropractic in addition to the cold laser treatments. I cook for her- beef and chicken boiled, a little broccoli and pasta, and no sodium. She weighs about 8 lbs and has been on a wonderful plateau for some time now.

    Last week, her hacking/coughing (and that ‘honking’ sound associated with CT) increased after the excitement of her having a bath. She could not get out of the loop. It was awful…a HUGE sound, very guttural, coming from a little dog. I took her to her cardio the very next day. He thought either the bath excitement triggered her or perhaps she aspirated a little water. I’d been resistant to starting her on hydrocodone as a cough/hack suppressant (she coughs/hacks after drinking and grooming herself) but after last week, I relented. So between Thursday and today, I’m playing the hydrocodone game: trying to figure out the best dosage to suppress her cough without too much of a sedative effect. It’s hard. But today I think I’m onto something. Interestingly, even though I ask a lot of questions and thought I had a handle on this drug, I didn’t ask if it has any ‘build up’ effect…..because I’ve only had to dose her once today as opposed to the many doses of the last few days.

    The issue today is that her belly is off…so now she’s in another loop: the hydro has suppressed her cough and I believe upset her stomach. What a trade off. So she needs to eat to handle the effects of a drug that upsets her belly! So unsure how it’s all going to go as tonight unfolds and we get into tomorrow (and someone mentioned how these things always happen on weekends or at night)but we’ll see. My concern is that when it comes time to give her her next dosage of meds (the cardiac/BP meds and/or more hydro) it’ll upset her stomach further. I don’t want to skip a dosage of anything.

    I should also mention that I get her meds compounded. It can be very expensive, but it ensures she’ll get the meds even if she doesn’t feel like eating or taking a pill. I nearly fainted upon getting the hydro compounded- 30 mls is $145. God…..but, as long as I can do this for my girl, I will.

    I mentioned that I also have an energy worker/healer work with her. She does distance healings and I’ve found them to be wonderful and so helpful. For anyone interested, the healer’s name is Ginger Krantz and her website is: http://www.earthhorsehealing.com. It’s a great supportive therapy.

    And so I go forth- one step at a time with Tatie. I try to really “listen” to her and her needs. It’s so easy to make this all about me because I love her so much, but I want HER to call the shots. Oh, and someone mentioned something I deal with as well: when I show her affection, it can get her coughing. It’s so hard to want to comfort your dog but in trying to do so, be the cause of the problem. Catch 22…

    Thank you all so much for posting you own stories. Support is so key to dealing with these difficult conditions.

    Thank you,

  • Ruth says:

    My maltese “Howdy” turned 16 in Nov. He has had CHF for over 2 years starting with massive seizures. He is on pimobenden and after reading all these posts, I have added the Enepril also (which I had here on hand from Fluppy). He takes 20 mg. Lasix per day but vet told me NOT to increase this dose since it can damage kidneys. He coughed all night and wheezed. So sad to listen to. He got up and walked around many times, probably for water. He is on cough suppressents and also has had steroid injections. He also has Cushings Disease. Howdy is a medium sized Maltese and the largest one I have. He is just a happy go lucky kind of dog, never a problem. I am going to start cooking his food too. I give him his meds in Liverwurst but now reading the posts about SALT, going to change that plan too…Looks like I will be making my own liverwurst too! Thanks for sharing all.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Ruth, I’m not convinced with all of Howdy’s conditions that such a small amount of Liverwurst for his pills should worry you, but you certainly should use your best judgement.

  • Peter says:

    Hi All,
    I have read your stories and feel mine may be of use.
    My dog was a rescue dog from Spain a small honey coloured terrier. I homed her 7 years ago when she was roughly about 4 years old then.she came to me with a cough after drinking water. I had her screened two years ago when we were coming back to the Uk and the vet diagnosed a heart murmur. She was well and happy up to last Easter Monday when her resting respiratory rate was 70, coughing on exertion and she was breathing using her abdominal muscles, very lethargic and mucous membranes not pink at all. I went to the emergency vet and she diagnosed a grossly enlarged heart and CHF. After treating with diuretics and cardisure she was released after 3 hours. She made a slow recovery on these meds but this morning she vomited 3 times loosing bile and frothy fluid she then drank three full bowls of water and her breathing was 60 per minute with blueish mucous membranes. I went to the vet who gave me the choice of aggressive treatment or euthanasia.i could not bear the distress she was goingthroughand chose the latter. I am now very sad but glad she did not have to live with this condition over a longtime. She was a much loved dog but I could not stay with her I did see her shortly afterwards and she was at peace. It was a very tough decision but one which has to be taken bearing in mind the suffering of the dog. I hope if anyone reads this they will find some strength to make the hardest decision of all.

  • Ruth says:

    Howdy is doing MUCH better. He is even lively and wagging! I did notice that once again, he is starting to EAT DIRT outside. THis comes from the LASIX and dogs know what they need! He is a maltese, 16.5 years old and 9.2 poundsl not a toy but a mini maltese. Poor guy is bowlegged too! I bought him in Kansas from a home breeder. He’s just a good old, dog and so friendly. His coughing has greatly reduced using the small amount of Hycodan twice a day with the Pimobenden, Lasix and Vetrol for his Cushings Disease. He’s a happy boy. I also have CEASED feeding him ANY dog food or people food with salt in it which has helped so much. I boil his chicken with rice in the rice cooker with some garlic powder. I add doggie vitamins and he is just thrilled with his meal! He turned a HUGE corner which I was dreading and instead out of no where, my other “son” Lil Bit, had a massive convulsion (age 15) followed by a RUSH to the vet to find out he had no platletes. God must have needed my precious baby boy because I had to send him to heaven the next day. The vet does not know what was causing it, but he was bleeding internally somewhere, possibly from the Previcox he took daily for his deteriorated spine. I miss him every second but when you love someone so much, you have to let them go instead of suffering. RIP Lil’ Bit.

  • Linda says:

    My little boy (Banjo – 13) has CHF and he is also being treated with Lasix and Vetmedin (at least two years). He coughs a lot and I wonder if I’m doing the right thing by keeping him around. Although he still eats and loves his treats. It makes me so
    sad to see/hear him cough and cough. It isn’t all the time but it’s often enough to make me wonder what I should do. I have had to make that dreaded decision many times and it gets no easier.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I think we all can sympathize with what your dealing with. I have to say my Precious coughed a lot also but all at once the cough got deeper and pretty much non-stop. I think you’ll know when it’s time. Have you tried hydro codone to help suppress some of the coughing?

  • Bonnie says:

    My KC is 19+ & has CHF. She has been doing amazingly well thinks to the medications she has been on. The last two days the cough has increased. She has not been to the vet for a while, so maybe we will go for a visit this morning. The coughing makes sleep difficult for both of us.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Wow, I have to say you are lucky that your dog has lived to her age of 19. I hope she lives even longer.

      • Bonnie says:

        So sorry to report that I lost my precious little girl May 7, 2014. I am having a terrible time adjusting to the loss. A true companion who was at my side, on my lap, or in my bed for 19 + years. I miss her terribly. I realize I was lucky to have her for so long, but it doesn’t make the loss any less bearable. I am thinkful that she passed at home and in the arms of those who loved her.

    • Joann says:

      My dog has chf, she is 13. She coughs more at nite. Started on lasiz for about a week, cough continued. Will take the Vets advice for heart medication and I guess return to the lasiz also. She was on 40 mg a day, heart meds scare me because iam unsure of what might happen. She cough an gags . What medication did you have you dog on, that she lived to be amazingly 19 yrs old?? Iam beside my self of what to do. If not for the cough my dog Cindy is fine. Plays runs around eats like a horse. Please give me an insight into the medications or combination of meds. That work. So I will be knowledgable when I talk to my Vet. We will be devastated to loose her. What to save my dog, need to help her so bad, just breaks my heart to hear her cough so much. And i cant do anything.Thank you so very much.

      • Sue Huss says:

        Hi Joann,
        I don’t know of any dogs with CHF who lived to be 19, my Precious only lived to be 14. I think the heart meds most likely kept her live a little longer so I wouldn’t let that scare you too much. Mostly your vet will start with one or two drugs and as time goes by and her coughing gets worse as it usually does they add more drugs. Just because my dog had trouble with one drug your dog may be fine, it’s always a trial and error thing. Your veterinarian should know what’s best for her. God bless.

  • jen says:

    Thank you for sharing precious’ story. I am going through a similar situation but my babies heart is enlarged quite a bit. It seems they say the coughing is normal but maybe its worse with enalipril I’ll bring it up to my vet. You would think with the advances we have in medicine there was more they could do.

  • Omar says:

    Hi Sue,

    Thanks so much for sharing your story. My cockerspaniel Carter which i’ve had for 9 years was recently diagnosed with a stage 4 heart murmor. He was initially diagnosed back in November as stage 2, and in May stage 3. Two weeks after receiving the stage 3 diagnosis he quickly went to a stage 4 and the cardiologist began treatment with enalapril, furosemide, and vetmedin.
    He’s very cooperative when taking the pills and swallows them whole without food or coating. So far he’s been on the meds for a week and has been coughing here and there in his sleep or when he gets excited. He seems a little more energetic. I plan to start adding supplements such as the vitamin E, fish oils, etc that everyone has mentioned. The cardiologist said we got there “just in time”.

    One thing that I found strange was that my vet’s cardiologist when they interpreted his x-rays and echocardiogram results specifically said that he was NOT suffering from CHF and the only worry was an arrhythmia. At this time Carter was not showing all the symptoms of CHF such as coughing and wheezing, only lethargy and sleeping alot.
    Hopefully his condition will improve and give him some extra time with me.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for your story, I was wondering when he was diagnosed with the arrhythmia did he do any tests to possible determine what the possible cause could be? I know arrhythmia can be the result of things like hypothyroidism. My Precious had low thyroid but surprisingly when looking at her you would never guess. She really had no outward appearances of low thyroid. I suspect your vet probably feels Carter has bigger problems to worry about but I just like to mention this for other readers. Good luck, I hope Carter is with you a little longer he seems to young to have to leave you yet.

  • Laurel says:

    My furry one was diagnosed with CHF in November of 2012.

    It began with a cough, and when she did not get better with antibiotics they did an x-ray which showed an enlargement.

    From there we had an echo with the cardiologist and she did better until April of 2103, when she ended up in critical condition and on oxygen for several days in the hospital.

    Thank G-d they stabilized her and she has been on Lasix 25 mg three times a day, she is only 10 pounds, little thing, Vetmedin and Enalopril, until the Enalopril was stopped just two days to give her kidneys a break.

    A couple of months ago, April 2014, she had stomach issues and the internist diagnosed her with a gall bladder mucoecele. She needed her gall bladder out, but because of her heart failure this was not possible. So, added to the medication mix, are Denamarin and Ursodial for her gall bladder, liver and pancreas.

    Just two days ago, her blood levels for her kidneys were elevated so we stopped the Enalopril and are waiting for the tests for her kidneys to come back.

    I am devastated, heartbroken.

    I was told every day now is gravy so I am holding her tight, and thanking G-d for every moment.

    Thank you so much for this thread. My Sophia was my Mom’s furry one first, and came to me when my Mom passed away in 2009. We got through the loss together.


    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Laurel,
      Since your Mom has past away maybe if you just tell yourself that she wants to be with Sophia again that it will be easier to let her go.
      You will be in our thoughts.

      • Laurel says:

        Thank you Sue for your kind response and also for hosting this web page. I think it has provided not only valuable information but solace from and connection with others who understand.

        My beautiful furry one is at peace now and I do believe that my Mom was waiting for her.

        She took care of me until the end. She normally shakes like crazy at the vet, but a tranquility and serenity took over, and it was her signal to me that yes, it was okay, it was time. I was so ambivalent thinking it was too early.

        I will cherish her memory always.


  • donna crawford says:

    I have been reading all the posts, Allison I am very Interested in trying your treatment for chase. I have a rescue shitzu that was used for breeding only for seven years of her life from a puppy mill. she did not no how to drink from a bowl and new nothing about life. We were allowed to get her because we have 2 dogs she could learn from , we have had her 5 years and she was supposed to be 7 when we got her. She is the most precious soulful little dog . Just in the past couple years has she caught on that like can be grand and she seems so happy. Of course shortly after we got her we found out she had a grade 4 heart murmer and also had to have bladder stones surgically removed. She is very peppy, but has a nasty cough. sometimes worse than others. vet says she is in chf. has her on enalapril 2 a day vet medin and a half a day Lasix 2 a day. He seemed to think there wasn’t. much else we could do and is she layed around sick then a decision would be a bit easier, but she runs in from outside tail a wagin. I would like to get you amounts of these supplements, Molly weighs about 17 lbs. Your help would be appreciated. I had them on holistic grain free food but then molly and lucy my Lhasa were put on the urinary tract dry food, which from what I have read isn’t exactly healthy. looking forward to hearing from you. thank you. donna

  • donna crawford says:

    Oh I forgot to mention she has a trachea problem also that when she drinks she chokes and coughs on it. we us raised water bowls which did not help so vet said use ice cubes. sorry did not know if you needed that info also

  • R. Strange says:

    I appreciate all this info. Thank you. Rose

  • Well, I believe I have found the correct site. My little tiny Dusti is a 13yr. old Maltese. A yr.ago she was diagnosed with heart murmur, enlarged heart, collapsed trachea and CHF. She is also on the Vetmedin, Enalapril & Lasix. Her cough is now turning into a high pitched sqeak where as before it was more of a hack. She sleeps on her right side with her little left paw extended every time. I’m sure it is a comfortable breathing position for her. Like many of you I don’t have a “Lot” of money, but will spend all that I do have on her. Mine & my husbands hearts are broken everytime we look at her. I guess tomorrow I will take her to the vet. Bless all of you for we are all basically going thru the same thing. Thank you for starting this post.

    • Sue Huss says:

      It sounds like you found some comfort here, which I am glad. I hope everything goes well with Dusti at vet.

      • Hi Sue, Took Dusti to the vet, he said her lungs sounded clearer. Must be doing something right! We adjusted her Furosemide to 12,5 mg & she feels much better.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thanks for the update Debbie. I’m glad Dusti is feeling better.

          • Debra Taylor says:

            Well, the day I dreaded came a week ago, my little angel Dusti lost her battle & passed away as we were rushing her to emergency late that nite. The day before she had acted so happy, full of energy & even wanted to go for a car ride. Then, the next day the dreaded coughing again began. I held her in my arms promising my love for her was eternal. She didn’t make it to the hospital…my husband & I were devastated. The last week has been unbearable. Her sister Deenie is grieving & I don’t know what to do for her. She is clingy, looks all over the house for dusti, & throws up. Guess I will have to take her to Dr. soon…

          • Sue Huss says:

            How old is Deenie, is it possible you can get her a new companion? Maybe an older dog if she is not that energetic anymore.

          • debbie says:

            Deenie is 13 also. We have an 8yr.old Morkie, but She pretty much ignores her. Too busy running around trying to find Dusti.(Who was her sister) I try showing her more attention. I imagine it’s going to take a while until she realizes that Dusti is not coming back…

  • Michelle says:

    My dachshund/chihuahua, Olivia, has CHF and is very difficult to give meds to. We think she was maltreated as a puppy, we adopted her from the shelter when she was about a year old. I crush her meds with a pestle, then mix with peanut butter using a miniature spatula, then use my finger to spread it on the roof of her mouth. She licks it down while I kiss her nose and tell her how much I love her. It probably helps that I am a hospice nurse, but it’s still so hard seeing her get weaker.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m sure lots of people have trouble getting their little one to take their meds. Thanks for sharing how you get yours to take her medicine. Maybe it can help others who have tried just about everything.

      • Bonnie says:

        You might try “Pill Pockets”. A soft treat you can hide a pill in. You can form them to any size.

      • Debra Taylor says:

        I crush my babies pills with a pestle & mortar then wet it with the juice of the boiled chicken I give her. I use a syringe (like a baby one, a pharmacy will just give u one if u ask) Then it is so easy to administer.
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        • judyq says:

          Depending on the meds, do not crush!have you ever tasted some of these meds? Yikes! Especially tramadol, that is nasty. my last dog would swallow the pills in butter or peanut butter. I often hid between a spoon full of wet food. If she got a taste of even the residue from my hands, that was it, I had a fight on my hands. She was also a dog with she wont eatpeanutbutter or butter, or cheese LOL.
          I was shocked! So, now I make tuna salad with low sodium tuna and that slides down. Another thing that works really well is a tiny piece of wonder bread with the meds squished between it. I would put on her wet food or dip in something meaty and that worked great for hiding the pill and hiding the taste. Last but not least, there are gel caps pills are made from you can order on Amazon,, I will put the pills in there, that way my pup doesn’t taste it and it slides down and it’s disguised easily. Good luck everyone, WHAT ever works, just some more suggestions

  • Angel says:

    My little Chihuahua, Daisy, was diagnosed with CHF about 3 months ago. She is on Vetmedin (1/2 pill), Enapril(1/4 pill) and Lasix started at 1mg now 3mg) she is barely 4lbs. She has very few accidents. She started having some at first, now she can sleep all night without having one. She is crated at night with a bowl of water and potty pads just in case. She just recently started coughing/hacking. After reading these stories, I upped her Lasix just a wee bit this morning to a little over 3mg to see if that will help until I can get her back to the vet. I think her diet may have a lot to do with it, but she is extremely picky. She wants to eat what the other dogs eat (Beneful)with milk bones for treats and chicken (she loves chicken). I tried Purina pro plan salmon that I read was g0od for dogs with CHF. And I tried the NF Kidney the vet suggested. Both, she ate well for a couple days and then just wouldn’t eat it anymore. It is hard to keep her out of the food I feed my other two dogs. I lost her mother last year to diabetes and renal failure. I tried a homemade diet for her and I was always concerned she wasn’t getting all the nutrition she needed so I would add some dog food to help. I guess this is not a good idea unless you can find a good food that your dog likes that is low sodium. I agree with someone above who said, “CHF sucks?” :(

    • Sue Huss says:

      I can’t say I’m much of a fan of Beneful.I know dog’s love it but I feel it’s comparable to humans craving fast food filled with grains and by-products. You might want to read my article “What’s really in my dog’s food”
      My Precious was very picky eater also so I just started making her a homemade diet, yes it is a pain to have to
      make this every week but she was worth it. I do have a recipe for a homemade diet that was given to me from my Naturpathic Vet if you want it it’s at the end of this article about my overweight dog not being able to loose weight. I did add vitamins, digestive enzymes and probiotics. I do agree CHF sucks.

    • Shannon says:

      I have a Chihuahua that I am fostering who was diagnosed with CHF almost a year ago. He is on Fortekor (2.5 mg/day) and furosemide (can’t remember the mg but he gets 1 and a 1/4 pills a day spread out over the day). We recently switched his food to Canine Life muffins and I have noticed a big difference with his cough. Luckily, he didn’t cough TOO much before either… but since we switched the food he hardly ever coughs now!
      You can buy the muffins pre-made or you can buy the mix and make them yourself. You should look into it. He loves them.. when I feed him I break up his portion of the muffin and add a little hot water (he has no teeth)they smell like pop pies when they are warmed up.. yum lol
      Here is the link to Canine Life

      You can order them or you can find them at some higher end pet stores.. just call around. They cost more.. but the change was quick and worth it for my little one. Good luck!

  • Angel says:

    I failed to say that those dosages are twice daily for Daisy who is 4lb Chihuahua. I also had extreme difficulty getting her to take her meds that were in pill form. She had a seizure while I was trying to get her to swallow a pill one day and then I thought of crushing them up and adding a bit of water and sucking into a syringe. She takes it very well this way. I have thought of trying a low sodium broth, but haven’t tried it yet.

  • lisa says:

    My dog was recently diagnosed with CHF and one thing that actually helps (but sounds funny) is all natural healthy dry cat food- there is an ingredient in cat food that actually helps dog’s with heart failure. Dogs with CHF are missing an enzyme in cat food that they need for a healthy heart. We have been giving her a little cat food with her other food and meds and it really does help ALOT. We tried seeing what she was like without it- and she did horrible- we put her back on it and she went back to her normal healthy vigorous self. The vet agreed that that it was indeed helping and to continue as long as we want. I do believe that the rabies shot that my vet gave her was what caused her heart failure. She was perfectly healthy until the day he gave her the shot- and 3 hours later- she had to be rushed to the vets (another one) and they saved her life. The vet agreed that he should have never given her the shot and that many people are losing their pets right after receiving this round of rabies shots. NEVER GIVE YOUR PETS A RABIES SHOT. IT IS A SCAM- you don’t know what is in it and tey are KILLING OUR PETS. They make it illegal so you have to give your vet the money for vaccinations. Vets make a 800 dollar mark up on all vaccinations and you don’t know what is safe and what is not. Inside pets do not need a rabies shot every 3 years. They need once per lifetime and there have been ZERO cases of rabies reported it the US in the past 60 yrs.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Lisa, if you are talking about coenzyme Q10 wouldn’t it better to buy the supplement and give it to your dog in his food. I don’t think a dog occasionally eating cat food is bad but there are nutritional differences in cat and dog food. Cat are carnivores and cat food contains a lot of meat or meat by-products and high in protein. Dogs are omnivores and require a more balanced diet of meat, vegetables and carbohydrates and healthy fat like coconut oil. The higher protein in the cat food might be the reason most dogs love it but it alsomight upset his stomach and give him diarrhea. With cat food a dog can become easily obese and you also have to worry that a high protein diet can cause kidney problems.

      As far as vaccines go I can’t agree more we just over-vaccinate our pets, in fact I wrote an article about a dog I pet sit for who we believe had a bad reaction after some vaccinations.
      According to the CDC the number of rabies-related human deaths in the United States has declined from more than 100 annually at the turn of the century to one or two per year in the 1990’s and it still is possible that our pet can get rabies from wildlife or a bat.
      There are alternatives to booster vaccinations. It is a blood titer test. It test the level of antibodies to disease in their blood. The problem with this as we all know blood work can end up being more costly than the vaccination and it is the law to have our pets vaccinated against rabies. I have to admit I am not one who vaccinates my dog every year like the postcard from the vet suggests.

  • Cissy says:

    Mickey my 12 year old Chihuahua was diaognoised with CHF/heart murmur. A year ago he stopped eating and started having seizures. He went down hill fast. I have a wonderful vet Dr. Ware who took care of him and even took him home with her as he could not be left over the weekend at her facility. When I walked in Monday everyone there was in amazement that he had pulled through. We have been blessed with another year that we didn’t think we would have at this time last year. He is on enalapril, Vetmedin, keppra, cardizem and lasix. He started coughing and quit eating and his breathing got very labored. We have now changed him over to injectable Lasix. While at the vet for the day yesterday with an iv and Lasix he came home with Lasix injections every 4 hrs and was to start today every six hours. He is some better but his coughing gets really bad between the 4 1/2 – 5 hr mark. Not able to get any of his other meds down with the exception of 1 dose of the Cardizem this afternoon. He ate a little today. My heart breaks for him when his cough gets bad and his breathing becomes labored. Will talk to Dr. tomorrow about how long he can stay on the Lasix so close together.

  • Allie Arlt says:

    Anyone have any tips for at-home remedies for extreme & relentless coughing/gagging for my poor 14 year old yorkie/jack Russell mix with CHF? I brought her to the vet last week & they upped her Lasix but it hasn’t helped her coughing episodes at all & now it’s the weekend & she hasn’t had a restful hour of sleep in 5 straight days. We are BOTH miserable. How can I help my poor baby’s cough on my own?! What has worked for you guys?

    • Sue Huss says:

      I know things are always worse on weekends. I tried honey before without much help but at least it might help her throat. It sounds like she needs something more than just Lasix take her back to vet Monday and insist on something.

    • Beth Paradis says:

      Tussigon is a great medication for the coughing, I use it up to 4 times a day. Also in a pinch I use DM cough syrup you can buy over the counter. Hopes this helps! Its the worst feeling to hear them cough like that!! Good Luck!

  • Beth Paradis says:

    Yes my Chihuahua has chf and grade 5 heart murmur. Been 9 months and he is doing quite well. On two different heart medications, lasik, cough med but must say he is holding his own!

  • Kim says:

    My pom Tucker is only 9 – we adopted him with a broken leg when he was about 7 months old. He is little only 7 lbs…but has recently stopped eating and is down to 6 lbs… He’s hear murmur went quickly from two to four, he also has a bad trachea he was on Torbutrol 1mg a day, which is where he started loosing his appetite. I discontinued his Torbutrol, but he started refusing all food…Even homemade food… He is currently on Enalapril 2.5mg 2x/day, Salax 12.5mg/2x/day, and Vetmedin 1.25mg 2x/day… He is still very lethargic I would think due to not eating enough…I have to force feed him the last two weeks, or he only wants treats… If anyone can supply some advise on how to help with increasing pups appetite….He is still so young for a pom and is breaking our hearts that he will not eat…

    • Sue Huss says:

      I feed my dogs home made food also and my middle Pomeranian won’t eat sometimes either. My best advice is dogs like people get tired of eating the same thing so I constantly have to change recipes from chicken, beef pork or liver with different vegetables like green beans, carrots, peas and rice or orzo with some coconut oil for their healthy fat. It’s a pain but they’re worth it. Sometimes I still have to put cheese on top of her food she is so picky.

  • Amy Greer says:

    I lost my beloved 10 yr. old Chihuahua Priscilla to CHF on May 9th, 2014. I still feel immense guilt & sadness over this loss as I feel it could have been prevented.
    Priscilla was diagnosed with tracheal collapse around age 5. She also started having seizures when she was around 4 yr. old, though they were infrequent. (about 2-4X a yr.)
    The day she passed away I noticed her breathing seemed labored. I brought her into my vet who listened to her breathing, examined her & said she believed it was allergies & gave her a steroid shot & prescribed allergy pills. Her breathing seemed to get worse while we were in there & I even said “are you sure it’s not her heart? It seems 2 severe to be allergies.” She suggested doing xrays but like a fool I agreed to let her do the allergy shot 1st & take her home to see how she did. Within 15 min. home her breathing got worse & she went under the couch to hide. I brought her back up, did Xray, found she had fluid in her lungs & her heart was enlarged. They had to put her on oxygen several times just to get the xray done. they gave her th diuretic shot & sent me home. (they were already closed at this point) I was scared to death at this point to leave & told them I didn’t think she’d make it through the night. I said “don’t you think she needs to be on the oxygen? What am I going to do if her breathing gets labored & I can’t make it to the emergency vet?” They said just try to calm her down. Great! So I left & she started breathing very hard & gasping within a minute down the rd. I turned into my driveway screaming at my husband to drive me back up to the vet as I was trying to breathe into her mouth. I called vet on the way (it’s 2 miles, if that from my house) but vet said they were gone & couldn’t get back up there. said to go to Emerg. vet. WE wouldn’t make it I said. (which we didn’t) she started coughing up liquid with blood in it, gasping in my arms & died quickly after. So within finding out she had CHF my dog was dead less than 2 hrs. later.
    Needless to say, I was devastated! I was hysterical, inconsolable. I didn’t let go over her for my husband to bury her for 2 hrs. It was a nightmare. I’ll never forget it & still cry for her, have nightmares & feel like I’ll never get over it. My eyes r filled with tears now thinking about my poor little princess & how I should’ve done more, known more, not trusted the stupid vet, etc…
    I have since found a new vet, although I still go to this place occasionally as it’s so close, but I always ask for a different vet. they have one I love & trust. My new vet said sometimes it just happens like this & it may have been too far gone. He said he’s put dogs in an oxygen tent only to still watch them gasp & pass away. I feel like if I had had that option maybe I could have treated her with some natural remedies as the other lady mentioned here & my baby may have lived longer. It’s so hard to live with the guilt. I go back & forth from that & anger, blaming the vet. I feel like she should’ve been able to hear the fluid listening to her heart. If she had & we treated for that 1st, rather than giving that steroid shot, maybe she’d be alive today.
    I have adopted a new Chihuahua. I was in such agony I felt I needed another companion. I adopted my Roxie from a shelter with a very high euthanasia rate. She is a love & I’m glad I have her. She came with kennel cough & took over a month to be over it. She does the tell tale honking cough of trachea collapse. Fabulous! Over the last 3 wks. or so she has been retching & spitting up either clear foam & sometimes yellowish foam. I’m scared to death she has CHF. I’m trying to wait until next month to go in for xrays & blood work as it costs a small fortune here. (No VA- DC area) I may take her in for a regular exam in the meantime but it seems both vets just think everything is allergies & want to prescribe steroids and antibiotics for everything.
    Thank you for reading this very long comment. It’s actually the 1st time I’ve written about losing my baby. It was probably 5 wks. b4 I went a day without crying.
    Any advice/insight is definitely appreciated. I’m glad I found this site as it has great info. I found it like 3 months ago but wasn’t able to write my story yet.
    Thanks again,

    • Sue Huss says:

      Oh my gosh!! I couldn’t read your story without tears in my eyes.
      I have to tell you almost the same thing happened to me. I rescued a 6 year old Pomeranian who also had kennel cough forever. She gets excited and coughs all the time. My vet did say she had allergies which I have to agree but she also has the beginning of collapsing trachea. She also has frequent episodes of reverse sneezing which I know many dogs have but they only last a few minutes but hers last hours where I have to take her to the vet for a steroid shot. I have steroid pills to also give if she has an episode on the weekend but sometimes it’s not enough.
      My point of all this is I guess instead of thinking we chose this dog perhaps somehow this dog chose us because they knew what love and commitment we gave to our previous pet. It may be another uphill battle with their health but I know you can do it, as can I.
      Please don’t feel so guilty about her dying on your way home. I like to think that your Priscilla much like my Precious chose that time to make room for your next pet who needs you just as much.
      I thank God everyday for sending me Precious #2, can you believe since she was a stray with no name I named her Precious because she looks just like Precious #1.
      Good luck give Roxie my love.

      • Amy Greer says:

        Thank u so very much for your heartfelt response. Though I cried while reading most of it, it also brought me a lot of peace. I think I really needed to write my story to move on a little. Also reaching out to someone who has been through similar experiences seems to help.
        Your words are so helpful to me. I didn’t think about it in the way you put it but it makes a lot of sense. Priscilla may have left to make room for Roxie. That is a positive way to look at it. Little Roxie had no apps on her when I applied to adopt her & her time was quickly running out. She is an adorable little Chi/Corgi mix with coloring like a tiny German shepherd. She looks like she has black eyeliner around her eyes, has the sweetest face. When I saw her standing in the corner, her whole body shivering I knew I had to adopt her. I just looked at that tiny body & those soulful eyes & I wanted to bring her home. She has been a bit of a handful as she has separation anxiety (understandable) & has a lot of fear of men so the 1st few wks. it was very difficult with my husband. She kept growling, barking & lunging at him. With patience, lots of love, & consistency she has improved dramatically. She rarely ever barks at him anymore, doesn’t try to bite him & is even starting to allow him to pet her. She is very protective of my other dog (a pitbull- yeah, funny!) & my son. If my hubby does any rough housing/playing with them she gets nervous as she thinks they’re going to be hurt. So I have to remind him not to do that in front of her- at least not yet. She’s getting there, but she’s not completely sure of him yet. She is learning to trust, slowly. It’s obvious she was abused by a man. Funny, she has no problems with children at all, fast moving or not.
        My one saving grace with the way Priscilla went is that it was so fast. Strange to say as it was also horrible, but if I had to make the decision to put her down and/or watched her suffer a long time it would’ve killed me. I got her while my son was in the hospital just after he was born as a preemie. She helped get me through that very difficult time & we had a very close bond. So I kind of got 2 babies at the same time. My son is 10 too & he grew up with her. It was a hard time for our whole family. Even my hubby (whom never had pets b4 marrying me) was crying a lot & rather sad for a while. Priscilla was a special & wonderful little dog. She won over everyone who met her. Even my brother in law, whom swore he hated little dogs, loved her dearly. When we went to Maine to visit she’d always run right up to him & camp out in his lap. She was a joy to have around.
        Roxie is here warming my lap. I adore her. So you are right in that she knew I was meant to be her mommy. She gets & will get the best of care. She is part of our family now.
        Thanks again for your kind & very helpful words. I will continue to come here & read all the great comments.

  • Sue Huss says:

    I’m so happy that I have been able to bring you a little peace. Perhaps Priscilla knew how painful it would of been for you to make that decision to put her down and leaving when she did was her last way of thanking you for your love and trying to spare you that pain.
    Blessings to you also.

  • CHERYL says:

    Hi Sue, I understand exactly how you feel,my beautiful Lil 10 year old Pomeranian Chester was diagnosed with heart failure in January this year. It broke my heart literally when the vet told me he had that as well as fluid in his lungs. Chester’s story before he came to me is one of a poor Lil boy who had 3 homes, breeder who didn’t care about the animals just the Money, next the owner who loved him too much, but over fed him so that by the time he was 6 months old he was too heavy for his Lil legs and couldn’t walk. Sorry for interruption, Chester is snoring so loud beside me on the bed I can’t think. Where was I, oh yes, the owner before me wasn’t cruel in any way, they just didn’t understand him. Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of a Pomeranian in their life will understand where I’m coming from. They are not a dog in the sense of a dog, they are your best friend, a most wonderful companion and have a face that lights up your heart with a single smile. He was only 18 months old when I first met him, I had recently lost my two beautiful longhaired Chihuahuas to old age and wasn’t even looking for another dog as yet. Until he strutted his stuff on the end of lead in front of me. I had to ask about him, it was like he was willing me to. Anyway, turned out he was looking for a new home. Now, I also rescued and rehomed cats at that time , I sat down on the grass talking to the lady when he jumped into my lap, looked up at me and smiled. I asked if I could take him home and see how he got on with the mob, who were used to dogs. I put him down in the house, the cats all circled him, looked him up and down, looked at me and walked away, he was approved of,I rang the lady and just said he is staying. That was the start of a love affair to last a lifetime. We have been inseparable,Chester goes everywhere, does everything and has friends everywhere. I can’t post a photo, but he is a red chestnut, and handsome as. Now, back to his heart problems,I actually had him xrayed in January for another problem when we found out about his heart, he died at 9 o’clock that night from complications due to the anaesthetic,I gave him mouth to mouth and CPR, rang the vet and rang a friend to drive us to the vets.By the time we got there he was back in the land of the living. He was put on oxygen for 2 hours and was in intensive care overnight, the vet kept in touch through out the night until he stabilized at 3am, my baby boy was back with me the next day. It was the first time he wasn’t beside me on the bed since he came to stay,even his best mate,Huey, a young cat who since the time he could climb on the bed and snuggle into Chester was lost without him that night. I couldn’t sleep and felt so sick,I wasn’t prepared to lose my best friend,not then, not now. Chester had another bad turn in August, once again another rush job to the vets, more oxygen, this time he had to share with me as I was holding it on him and I started to feel faint. More xrays, this time I just held him, cause he can’t have anaesthetic anymore,he was so good he just laid there looking up at me. Bad news, his Lil heart had enlarged a wee bit more and there was thickening of the lungs, he was in final stage heart failure. I was told every day with him was a bonus and he had maybe 6 months.His weight had dropped to 3.8 kilos, the vet said he would just keep losing weight no matter what I fed him or how much. My life without Chester,I couldn’t and wouldn’t believe it. After a night of crying and cuddling my baby boy I was willing to try anything. I eventually found a site called CANINE HEART HEALTH. The reviews alone made me ring a lady named Amanda in CANADA,by the way I am in Australia. She has cured dogs with heart failure the natural way, I had nothing to lose except Chester. Amanda was wonderful, she had been thru the same thing with two of her dogs. I did everything she said to do until I got his bundle of goodies from her. It’s only been a month and a half since Chester started on his new diets and treatment and he has gone from a listless sick baby to my old friend again, he has gained weight ( 4.1 kilos, the vets are shocked ). He has more energy that I have to slow him down for fear of over taxing his heart. He visits the vets every 2 weeks for checks, when he gets there he struts in with his tail proudly over his back and says look at me, don’t give ME up for dead yet. Now, don’t get me wrong, Chester is not out of the woods yet, but he is happier and so am I, he will continue to take the horrible heart meds until the day the vets say otherwise and he will always be on his natural foods and treatment for life. Hopefully it will be a long healthy life. What I am saying is don’t give up on the Best friend in your life. LOVE CHERYL and CHESTER. PS. I am using a friends email address so please don’t use it. Ta.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Thanks for the website. Unfortunately for me I had to put Precious down last year. It was extremely hard but I know the time had come. I had 3 Pomeranians for so long it just didn’t feel right with only two, so after several months I rescued a Pomeranian who looks just like her. She was a stray with no name so naturally I had to name her Precious. It’s funny when I talk to my friends about her I have to say things like Precious #2 acts just like Precious #1 did.
      Anyway I’m glad your Chester is doing better and maybe others will be helped with your advice. Thanks and blessings to both of you.

  • CHERYL says:


    • Kim says:

      Hi Cheryl, thank you for your reply. I have been pureeing Tucker’s food for about two weeks and he has started to put a few ounces back on! I will also give him some plain Greek yogurt today to see if he will take that. I am hopeful that Mr. Tucker will start enjoying food again and eat on his own. Thank you Kim & Tucker

  • CHERYL says:


  • Sue Huss says:

    Thank you for your beautiful story Cheryl. I do believe our pets return either with reincarnation or what some call soul walk-ins. I don’t talk much about it here on my blog because I don’t want anyone to think I am too far out. I can’t help but think Precious #2 is definitely not just a look alike Pomeranian but truly the same soul inside her. Whatever the facts are my beliefs bring me peace.
    Many blessings to you.

  • Donna Thomas says:

    I have a 14 year old chihuahua that I have had since he was 1, he was just diagnosed with CHF and heart murmur. The vet put him on furosemide 10mg 0.5 twice daily and Vetmedin 1.25mg 1/2 tablet twice daily. His coughing has gotten so much better. He has been on this for about 2 months now. Well 3 days ago he quit eating,until last night he ate some but not a whole lot. He continues to drink water. I called the vet to see if there was anything I could give him to increase his appetite, the receptionist said he would have to see him first and probably give him some fluids, obviously she didn’t know what his condition was , because he has CHF which he has fluid around his heart and doesn’t need anymore, I use to work at the vet for9 years and I thought without stressing him out he could give me some advice without driving an hour to get there. I was going to see if maybe prednisone may help, but of course I have to carry him in for him to answer that question. Just a simple yes or no would of helped. I am not asking for free advice, If the receptionist would of just taken a few minutes out of her so called busy schedule to ask would of been nice. Any suggestions?

    • Sue Huss says:

      Next time ask to talk to your vet directly if that doesn’t work find another Veternairian. My vet will always talk to me on the phone if I need some advice. I know predisone has a side effect of increasing appetite but I don’t feel that is the answer for a pet who doesn’t want to eat.
      What are you feeding him, soft food home made food? I always cook home made food for my dogs but my one Pomeranian can be very picky. I have resorted to cheese or braunschweiger on top of food for her to eat. When my cat wouldn’t eat my vet suggested he could give her an injection of b-12.

  • Donna Thomas says:

    Thanks for your suggestion, I have been cooking everything under the sun it seems, even his favorite rib eye steak. I was able to get him to eat tonight, some gravy out of a can of Alpo Lamb and rice, he went to the bowl I had for another one of my dogs and was licking that so I fixed him some of the gravy and he ate more than he had in the last 3 days. I will nurse him along over the weekend with your suggestions and call my vet again on Monday. God Bless you and, I pray it works.

  • donna crawford says:

    I am so glad I found this site . we have a puppy mill breeder shitzu.. She was 6 or 7 when we got her and shortly after we got her was told she had a grade 4 heart murmer. this past year has been so hard because she was diagnosed as having heart failure. She is the sweetest dog and if she were a person she would be one of those people that took everything in stride and would find something good about it. She has always had trouble drinking water, coughs when she drinks, we have tried raised bowls and now just use ice cubes. to keep this short I will start at where we are now. At this point she is taking 1 and a half vet medin 2 x a day 2 Lasix a day 2 enalapril a day 1/4 theophylin 2 x a day an antibiotic because of throat issues and spirolactin 1/2 two times a day. She has had a cough for a while but this last week it sounded congested. another vet gave me pred. to give her, but after 3 I quit them. Now she is coughing so much and sometimes I sit up and hold her upright which helps some. she coughs more when she anticipates food or attention also. she seems so happy and takes the coughing in stride. trots around the house, wagging her tail. How do you decide to put a pet down when she seems to accept her lot and is still happy? This kills me listening to her , they say they will let you know when they are ready. When I take her to the vet she never coughs there and sometimes if something gets her attention it stops the cough.Her heart is quite enlarged and they say it is compressing the throat area, not sure which part to call it. she loves to eat so that is not a problem. I put her pills in bread and she gobbles them down. Oh and she is on a combination cough syrup that is compounded. She is twelve years old if we were told correctly. I keep telling myself that I need to make that decision soon, I had it in mind for today but I keep hoping the newest meds. will kick in as she has been on them only two days, spirolactin and antibiotic. Please Sue or Allison do you have any suggestions? Would the suppliments be something that I should try? By the way her name is molly.

    • Laurel says:

      Hi Donna,

      My heart goes out to you. I am sending you much comfort and many positive thoughts and well wishes.

      I posted on June 29th, facing the same heart wrenching decision for my Sophia.

      On July 4th, I posted again, after she was at peace.

      The day I brought her in I was still not sure if I was doing the right thing. But, she let me know.

      It is has been 3 months now and I know I did the right thing.

      Our furry ones will hide their pain from us, protect us and love us until the end.

      You will know in your heart when the time is right. Listen to your inner wisdom. It will not fail you.

      Sending you all the support and caring for you and your furry one.


      • Donna Thomas says:

        Laurel, Thank you sooooo.. much for your post, I struggle daily with my Spikie, I just have so much love for this little dog, it is comforting to know that you said that I would know when the time is right. I have sat and wondered how would I know. He has good days then bad days, and the good ones so out weigh the bad right now, I hope and pray I do know when its time. God Bless you.

      • donna crawford says:

        Thank u for your reply. The last couple days have been mostly bad with molly coughing and gaggi ng . I get up with her at night as layimg in bed listening to her struggle is unbearable. If I hold her in an upright sitting up position like wnen they sit up to beg that this usually stops the coughing. Takes about 10 minutes and somtimes when I let her down it controls the cough for a while. Sounds strange but , maybe it relieves the pressure from the enlarged heart making an appointment today, which will probably end in her euthanasia. So hard. Trying to get the crying over now so I dont blubber like a fool there. Iknow anything else is just prolonging the inevitable at this point, they said she was agrade 5 last week. It is weird that she usually doesnt cough on the way there or while there. Then I worry she is trying to show she is not ready. As they say they let u know and with our other dogs we did know, doesnt make it easier even then. I just hope I am doing the right thing if I end this for her. It is like you are putting a death sentence on them. My old vet would gently say he thought it was time. Which I had complete faith in his opinion. Ugh sorry I have rambled on, I have to tell u last night one of thd stray cats I feed was on the porch with molly when I let her out, she laid down and he came over and started kneeding her side like he knew she needed comforting. I could have cried. Thank u for caring enough to reply

        • Donna Thomas says:

          Oh my. The tears are pouring down my face. So sorry that you and your sweet baby have to go through this. I pray that God eases the pain that you are in right now . I just hate that these innocent loving creatures have to experience such things. I know that your baby has been lucky to have experienced the love that you have give her. God Bless you and you will continue to be in my Prayers today and in the coming days. God Bless Molly.

        • Laurel says:

          Dearest Donna,

          Much strength and wisdom your way, today, Donna.

          You are doing the kindest and most loving thing you could do for your Molly. She will be with you in your heart, always.

          Much love,


      • donna crawford says:

        Thank you so much Today has been very hard. Took molly to vet and for the first time she coughed in the office. He said she was having difficulty breatning. He x rayed her and took me back and showed me comparison from a year ago. They took several over the past couple years. He said her heart was the largest he has seen in a dog her size? Very little room left and pressing on her lungs and trachae. He said could try to keep her comfortable a few more days. I said what would you do if she was yours, he said I cant say, but she was in a struggle for breath and lots of belly breathing. She was not herself today and when she was sitting on table she looked at me so sadly, ifelt guilty. My husband left work early to go with me. He knew this one was especially hard for me . I gave them the go ahead and left the room.i could not stay there. Thank heaven for hubby. I have loved all of our pets through the years, but some touch your heartin a special way and this is one of them. I still feel guilty because of the way she looked at me in such a sad way. The vet said he was surprised she had done as well as she has in the past weeks. In two weeks four trips for check ups and new meds.when I got home our other two dogs were looking for her. One is a lhasa, lucy and a pom, chloe. Nine and ten years old. Hope they stay healthy for a long time. No more pills , no more mopping accidents on the floor, stupid me , I will miss that because it was part of her this past couple years. I never saw a mean bone in her little body and being a puppymill breeder dog for six of her twelve years is awful but if her puppies were anything like her they had to be sweethearts. Thank you all for your support and caring about molly and all the others who are going through tough times. This site is awesome.

        • Amy Greer says:

          Dear Donna,

          I’ve been following your story & am so very saddened to hear of your loss today. ): My heart & prayers go out to you. I’m glad you have a supportive hubby who was there with you as you lost your beloved baby. I totally get what you said about some that are just special & touch you more deeply. My Priscilla, whom I lost May 9th was one such pet for me. She was my precious little sidekick. I loved her so dearly & our relationship was very special. I luckily had my supportive loving hubby with me when I lost her also. Although it was very sudden, unexpected & traumatic, he was with me nonetheless. I would’ve been going through exactly what you just did had I known in advance she had heart disease. I’m not sure I’ be able to hold it together very well watching her as you had to & making the decision. I hope you find some healing through communicating with others who share your pain & experience. There are some very supportive & loving people on here. It’s a great resource of info too as people post what has worked for them, supplements, etc, that we can use with our other dogs.
          You are in my thoughts. Virtual hugs sent you way.
          God bless,

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Donna,
      Why did you stop the predisone? As a pet sitter I have cared for dogs have been on Predisone for years. I know there are long term bad side effects but it is about quality of life. If the predisone helped please try it again. If it didn’t and you are unsure of what to do just ask your vet his or her opinion if they think it is time. I know it is always hard to make that decision by yourself. My new Pomeranian, Precious #2 also coughs a lot when she gets excited and I was told she has the beginning of collapsing trachea. It sounds like this is happening to your Molly now since her heart is enlarged. I guess she has a double whammy now for her health. I hope you can find the strength for making the decision that sounds like is near. I really believe that pets who we love this much will return to us again. I think Molly will also find her way back to you.

  • Jen says:

    I am crying like a baby reading through all of this. My 14 year old pallpiolln named Blossom is dealing with Chf. She also is on enalpril and furosemide but I will look into removing the enalpril from her diet. She was diagnosed almost 2 years ago and was doing well on the meds, just the occasional coughing spell. Recently she has gotten much worse and is coughing nonstop and every breath seems to be a struggle. I am going to the vet as soon as possible but she gets extremely stressed out when she leaves home, to the point of anxiety attacks. I don’t want to even think about sending her to heaven yet but looking into her eyes is so hard now… I just see sadness and pain. It is so hard to make this decision as I have had her since I was only 6 years old. She has been there ever since I can remember. I feel that she is telling me that it is her time, but my other family members think otherwise, as she is still walking and eating. Thank you so much for posting this thread it truly did help.

    • Sue Huss says:

      It’s obvious you feel her suffering more than family members. Do what your heart tells you. I know I’ve said it before but I do believe your Blossom will come back to you, how could she not you both grew up together.
      Blessings to you both.

  • donna crawford says:

    Sue I quit the pred because she wasnt putting out the urine as much as before she took it and her cough was getting worse. It was so kind of you to start this site because of what you went through with prec ious. You have certainly helped a lot of us. Thank you . I think I will have to let molly go today as I am afraid she is at the point she is not feeling well at all. Again thank you donna this is so hard and I wish everyone peace over whatever their outcome will be with their precious pets

    • Donna Thomas says:

      Peace be with you and Molly too Dear Friend.

      • donna crawford says:

        Donna , I hope all goes well for your spikie and you have him for many more years. Thank you for your prayers for molly. Sending you my thanks and my prayers for spikie. Sue did such an unselfish thing when she started this site so others could share in the struggle with chf. It helps to be able to talk with someone who knows and cares what you are going through. Some never understand how you can get so attached to what they refer to as just a dog. But for us is part of our family. They dont know the love and comfort our little ones bring. I know we did what was kindest for molly. It is just hard to be sure when sometimes. Thoughts and prayers for you and spikie. Donna c.

        • Donna Thomas says:

          Thank you Soo much Donna. I too am grateful for this site. I am so glad to be able to talk to someone that feels the same way I do when it comes to my pets. They are, as you said, a part of of our families. But I am especially grateful for meeting you. You have really help me. I am truly sorry about Mollie, I wish you could kept her forever. One thing I do know Spike will have the pleasure of Mollie when it is time for him to go. Thanks again. You will continue to be in my Prayers.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thank you to both Donna’s for your kind words. I’m glad it has helped people. My thoughts are with you and everyone who has shared their feelings. Blessings to everyone.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m so sorry Donna I guess some drugs just don’t work for all dogs. I hope you were able to make that hard decision without too much guilt.

  • claudette says:

    Hi Sue,
    Don’t know how or why I ended up on your site but so glad I did.My dog Misty aka precious is 15 years old,and sadly has chf.She is on all 3 meds,lasix,vetmedin,and fortekor.Her cough has gotten worse this last week and I struggle every day wondering if I am doing the right thing or bring selfish keeping her alive.I do not want her suffering,but she is still eating drinking,and going outside to use the washroom.She does have seizures if she gets excited and runs around,and that breaks my heart because that was something she would do a lot.(run around like a like a lunatic,and she loved doing it)I feel so sad that she can no longer run like that,but I feel if I put her to sleep I’m not doing right by her either.I would rather that she died at home surrounded by her family,but fear she will not be comfortable.Its a hard decision that a lot of people do not understand.This little dog has been such a big part of my life,and I’ve been through a lot in my life but nothing has prepared me for how hard this was going to be.I found all your article very comforting as I sit hear crying my eyes out,knowing I’m not the only one going through this helps somewhat.Shes asleep in her recliner and the rescued 15 year old English setter is looking at me.Shes not well either but not so acute as misty.I just hope I have the strength when the time comes.I can’t imagine any day without her.I have increased her lasix today and if the cough doesn’t settle will have to visit her Dr this week.I guess only time will tell,but right now she is with me,appears comfortable and that’s all I can ask for.Thanks so much for sharing your story,it certainly helped me today.Both of her sisters died 2 years ago after being on meds for years,Misty never started lasix until august of this year,and January started the other 2.She us a fighter.I never thought she would make it so long,but however long it takes I will do my best to keep her comfortable.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Claudette,
      Don’t feel too bad if your Misty died at home you probably would feel guilty that if only you could of taken her to the vet he might of been able to do something. I do know some veterinarians will come to your house when it’s time to put her down. Maybe that would make you feel better. I’m sure it would be less stressful on Misty. The problem with that is we always think our vet has some more magic. Thank you for your kind words, I think we all draw comfort from everyone’s story here. Blessings to you and Misty.

      • claudette says:

        Thank you Sue.Misty does not struggle to breathe but the cough is gut wrenching to hear.She doesn’t seem bothered by it,I think it bothers me more,not being able to stop it for her.I have an excellent vet,who has been very kind and compassionate.I actually thought we were going to put Misty to sleep in july but we never tried lasix and with our vets gentle coaxing we went home,and it hasn’t been perfect but I have had some quality time with my precious(its so funny that is the only reason I started reading this,the fact you called your dog precious,and I always refer to Misty has “the precious”)anytime I need advice or help my vet is only a call away.If she is not there when I call,all I have to do is leave a message,and not long after she calls to see how our baby is doing.Since Misty is basically palliative care she will call her prescription in to the pharmacy,and I know will come to my home to administer the needle should I need her to.I live 2 hours away,but have a home in the city near the vet that I can take her for her final days.Right now we are at our country/bay home and Misty can roam outside without boundaries.I actually moved here for the sole purpose both my dogs could enjoy the freedom without fences and leashes.My city cat has even ventured outside and captured his first mouse at the age of 12.Every day has its ups and downs,but to actually talk to someone who has been through this and feels the same about their beloved pet is so comforting.I am a retired nurse,and presently a small business owner who normally is the problem solver,and advice giver,and I find it difficult to be the person who needs to be comforted,if you know what I mean.I have to be the strong one,and it’s very hard for me to let you guard down,so to talk freely about my feelings is very difficult.I do know my heart is broken,and I am crying here now as I write this.I have always had a soft spot in my heart for animals,and have rescued a good few,but this little dog has my heart like no other animal,my faithful friend and companion.I can’t even think about her being gone,but I know it’s not possible for her to stay much longer.So for now I will do everything in my power to make her comfortable and let her know she is loved beyond words.I will keep you updated,and God Bless all of you who are going through this terrible disease with your babies.

  • claudette says:

    Update on Misty.Back to vet last Tues.Decreased lasix and added spironolactone.I know it is only a bandaid,but her coughing has decreased significantly.She did have a seizure today,but was chasing a squirrel and running hard.It was a short seizure and she responded really quick.I started her on a different soft food,Blue,and the difference in her coat and overall appearance is amazing.Wish I had tried her on it long before now.anyway for now Misty is still with me,comfortable and happy.Her vet did do an x-ray to compare,and even though her little heart has gotten bigger her lungs are completely clear.He was amazed she didn’t have any fluid build up.I think the country air has been a key in keeping her lungs so strong,that and chasing squirrels.I discussed euthanasia with her vet and he asked me why since she was fine at the office.He assured me that if he was in my shoes he would continue her care,and would only euthanize her if she was suffering and in his opinion Misty was still treatable and happy.I have to say her vet care has been exceptional and they call regularly to check on”our baby”.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m so happy Misty is doing well. It sounds like she will be here for a long while yet. You are lucky to have a great vet. Give Misty a kiss from all of us.

  • Juliette says:

    I am really struggling with the recent death of my little 9 year old chihuahua x mini foxy. My little guy had been in and out of the ICU for two weeks with CHF. After 4 nights they gave him back to us apparently ‘stable’. But he was skin and bones, could hardly breathe and could hardly walk. I got such a shock when I saw him. He was obviously suffering and I knew the medication wasn’t working anymore. They kept giving us false hope telling us he was stable and eating which he clearly wasn’t.

    We only had him home for 18 hours before he went into respiratory distress. We rushed him back to the ICU where they put him in the oxygen tent. They insisted on doing a whole battery of tests like X-rays, bloods etc which at that stage were really unnecessary and I feel so stupid for agreeing. They told us he was breathing ok and to go home. Three hours later they rang me to get permission to euthanise him immediately as he had ‘suddenly decompensated’. He was in cardiac arrest before the end of that 2 minute phone call and died a horrible, frightening and painful death.

    My little dog was the most precious thing to me in the world and we didn’t even get to say goodbye. I had to leave him with them overnight because he died at 5pm on a Sunday and we couldn’t get in touch with the crematorium. I picked him up the next day in a white plastic bag cold and stiff from the ‘morgue’. I took him out of the bag at the crematorium and he still had the staples in his nose from were they had ventilated him. It was the worst experience of my life and something I feel I will never recover from. I am very angry that a cardiology specialist and ICU vet couldn’t see that my little dog was so sick. I feel like they just gave us false hope and I was too stupid and too desperate to keep my little guy alive to realise.

    My little guy was my constant companion and I feel extremely traumatised by all of this. More than anything I feel so sorry for our little dog. I really feel like I let him down and he died in deplorable (and avoidable) circumstances. I really don’t care about myself at all but I am 5 1/2 months pregnant so I have no choice but to try to get better as fast as I can. Everyone is now relying on me to give birth to a healthy, happy baby but I am completely heartbroken and unable to move forward.

    So many people feel so guilty after euthanising their pets. Believe me, you are the lucky ones. I am currently living the alternative and I wish I could have given my buddy the pain free, respectful death he deserved. Also we were promised 18 months from the cardiology specialist and barely got 3 months. He was on so much medication- Lasix, Pimobendan, Amlodipine, Fortekor, Codeine, Theophylline. He had side effects and I saw him get worse on the Pimobendan. All side effects were reported multiple times and ignored. We thought we were getting the best help for our little fur baby- I now feel very differently.

    I would encourage people to explore holistic remedies and if they have any doubts about their vet please, please get a second opinion as fast as you can. NO ONE knows your pet like you do. You are bonded to them and you are the best observer of their health. Don’t let your vet try to convince you otherwise. Don’t let your pet be treated with statistical evidence rather than individual evaluation. Trust your instincts, listen to your hearts and follow your gut.

    Good luck to everyone whose dog is suffering this horrible disease. I wish you all many more happy, healthy years with your pets.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Juliette, thank you so much for your story. I think it will help so many pet lovers who feel so much guilt when they have to put their pet down. It sounds like that cardiologist was just trying to make more money at your and Foxy’s expense. I’m positive your story can help many. Please take care so you can have a healthy delivery and perhaps another little guy when you are ready. Blessings to you and your unborn baby.

  • Dianna says:

    we have a almost 12 yr. old Chi. that just recently has been Dx with
    CHF. On vetmedin, lasix twice a day and benazapril. in addition to her medication we also put her on a cardiac diet.science diet has wet/dry food with almost no sodium in it. and she loves it. after we started adding up all the sodium in doggie treats her wet food and in the meat and cheese that we would roll her pills up in it was astounding. high levels of sodium given to dogs can make CHF worse just like in ppl. it has definetley made a difference!

    • Sue Huss says:

      You bring up a very good point Dianna, frequently we forget how many calories, sodium and even sugar is in some of the treats we feed our babies. I’m glad your baby is doing better.

  • Debra in Oregon says:

    Hello all – I have tears rolling down my face as I type this, having just found this site last night (actually at 2:00 am because I’m having difficulty sleeping.) We lost our beloved Maltese, Cooper, to CHF, pneumonia, bronchitis? last Tuesday 11/25/14. He was 10.5 years old and developed the nasty cough and goose honking like many of you have described. It was so weird, I brought him to the vet for his annual checkup and he asked if Cooper had started coughing as he detected a heart murmur. He wasn’t coughing then at all. But two days after that visit, the cough started. Cooper was put on the common CHF drug protocol and had multiple blood tests and x-rays. The vet determined his heart was enlarged, and they could see fluid in his lungs. Unfortunately, none of the medicines seemed to help his cough or his lungs. Cooper still ate his food and behaved like normal, so our vet wasn’t too concerned. I kept saying that nothing is helping him get better – should we be doing something different? The vet just kept changing heart meds and/or increasing doses…After nearly $2,500 in vet bills and medicines, Cooper went into respiratory distress early Tuesday morning. He had a rapid, shallow panting breath and he was panicking because he couldn’t get any air. I drove him to the vet ER as fast as I could but I wasn’t sure he was going to even make it to the hospital. He also began spitting up this pink frothy material which was scary. The poor baby was practically collapsed on the side of the car door trying to get more air from the wide open car window. I will never forgot the helplessness and guilt I felt – we had no idea he was so sick, or that his time was so short. It all happened so quickly. I could tell the ER Vet was quite concerned when she came to talk to me – her eyes said more than her words – I knew it was bad. Cooper was put in an oxygen cage and sedated because he was freaking out. I was totally there freaking out with him. He was then transferred to a specialist vet referral clinic (brand new, state-of-the-art facility) where they continued his emergency care.

    Unfortunately, he was not responding well to the medicines and they found that his bronchial tubes had collapsed. No way to repair and because he wasn’t responding to treatment, the vet suggested he be put to sleep. Cooper was put to rest around 7:30 pm that same evening. My two kids begged me to keep him alive overnight because they were so sure he was going to pull through by morning. When the vet called saying that Cooper was going downhill fast, I couldn’t bear to have him suffer any more, so I approved the euthanasia. One of the most difficult things I have ever done – and I have been through hell and back helping my two youngest kids survive pediatric cancers (they are young adults now.)

    I found it interesting that the specialist vet kept telling me that Cooper was not in heart failure. I’m not sure exactly what caused his bronchi to collapse and I was way too emotional to even comprehend what was being told to me. Since we didn’t get to say goodbye, my daughter and I got to hold his frozen body (which was nicely wrapped in a blanket) to say our final goodbyes. And then my son and daughter wanted to say goodbye one last time at the Crematorium before he was cremated. Very hard to see the sadness and guilt in my kids eyes as they have already been through so much. If we had known how sick Cooper was, we would have done things differently in his last days – but this is something we all have to deal with in our own way, in our own time.

    The empty void in our home is palpable – I haven’t had the energy or desire to put away any of his toys, food/water dish, pet beds…We couldn’t even celebrate Thanksgiving dinner until Sunday – and I’m still dealing with eyes that continue to leak….

    My husband read somewhere that grieving takes approximately 120 hours…that is such total BULL*&%$! Like some of you, I am dealing with guilt that I did not research his cough more, that I blindly trusted our family vet when Cooper’s cough did not improve, that I didn’t feed him the very best, natural foods, that I did not supplement his food with nutritional supplements. I don’t think we realize how much our furry companions fill our days with love and joy until it’s gone. No longer is “going to check the mail” or “taking out the garbage” have the same importance as it did when Cooper got so excited to do these simple, everyday things with me. He was the happiest and calmest when our four adult children were all home together…(sorry eyes leaking again….)

    Honestly, I’ve been feeling like our family just was not good enough for him – he loved so unconditionally his loss will haunt me forever.

    I’m trying to re-frame my depressed thoughts and be thankful for the wonderful 10.5 years we shared with him. I am so filled with gratitude that we were able to share his life with our family. We think his time was cut short but he was truly a blessing for our family, especially my two youngest cancer kids. Cooper knew when someone was not feeling well, knew when my kids were recuperating from their many hospital stays; he would actually worry about my daughter if she didn’t come home (like when she had sleepovers.) My daughter is having a hard time sleeping at night because Cooper always slept with her – she misses his breathing and warmth. And my son has lost his constant buddy. My son had a difficult childhood being diagnosed with a brain tumor at the age of ten; and all the surgeries and complications that resulted from the tumor. My son is now 26, and is stable, but he now suffers from some deficits and does not have any friends. Strong family connection helps him there, but Cooper was his only true friend. I’m trying to help them deal with their loss, but it’s something they have to come to terms with on their own, in their own time.

    And I made myself a promise that next time, I’ll do better. We have already begun looking for another male maltese puppy that can join our close-knit family. Allison on this site has some wonderful suggestions on homemade dog food and nutritional supplements that I am taking to heart. I will never go back to our old family vet as I have lost all trust in them, but any future pups will see the new vet that handled Cooper’s final hours with compassion and gentle care (along with that state-of-the-art facility!)

    I know some of you may think it is too soon for a new puppy but it is the one thing that has us thinking positively for the future. I was dreading the upcoming holidays, not even wanting to leave the house, go walking or go to my yoga classes. I feel lighter and hopeful as we might have a fluffy puppy in time for Christmas! I want and need no other gifts, because I cherish the joy and love that Cooper has given us; and all the priceless moments that a new furry companion will bring to our family.

    My son, daughter and I are planning a roadtrip this weekend to meet our prospective new puppy or puppies. Our family has so much love to share we may get two puppies! My husband is fully supportive of whatever decision we make because I think it has been very hard on him to see the genuine, constant sorrow and regret that we feel. He’s sad too, but he took the 120 hours thing to heart! And there is one amazing silver lining to our sad, tear-filled cloud – I have to say that grieving together with my son and my daughter has brought us even closer together.

    Thank you all for letting me share my LONG story. It is therapeutic to be able to share stories, to know others have gone through similar experiences with their beloved pets and that they truly understand how you feel. As of this moment, my eyes have stopped “leaking…” and I’m so glad I have found you! Thank you!

    • Sue Huss says:

      I too have tears when reading your story. I am so sorry for your loss. I do not think it is too early for another pet to share in your family’s love. I do believe any love that strong will return and I know when you get another dog you will be surprised when little things he does have you saying to yourself “That’s so like Cooper”. I have experienced this myself with my last two Pomeranians who have passed and come back to me in another body. And if only I believe this that’s O.K. because it gives me comfort and that’s all that really matters. I hope you will let us know when you get another pet. Blessings to all of you.

    • Shannon says:

      I am so sorry for your loss. Brought tears to my eyes at my desk at work. I have a 10 year old Chihuahua that was diagnosed over a year go with CHF. I am fostering him and he will stay with me for the rest of his life… however long that is. Fortunately for Memi the meds have been helping. I also try to give him the best of everything else… he eats Canine Life Muffins, natural supplements (coconut oil etc.), and I just started him on Dehydrated Red Beats which I read help people in heart failure, so I am hoping the same for him.
      He came to me over a year ago after 9 long years of neglect from his previous owners. They finally surrendered him at 9 years old. He was terrified of everyone and everything. I am spoiling him and giving him enough love to try and make up for those years he wasn’t with me. And I think he appreciates it. The vets never thought he’d be doing so well… I think he is happy so he is fighting a good fight!
      Please don’t feel guilty about what happened with Cooper! You did what you thought was best! Cooper can breathe deeply now and will wait for you all to meet again!
      I dread the day I have to say goodbye to Memi. The thought of him struggling to breathe terrifies me. It must have been so hard for you both, and I am sorry for that. Cooper knows he was loved and he knows you were trying to help him! There is no time limit on grieving so don’t pressure yourself with that. Everyone grieves differently.. you just do what you gotta do and that’s it!
      Good luck with the new pups!.. I bet Cooper loves that someone else will be there to love you all like he did!
      RIP little Cooper… until you meet again!

  • Annette H. says:

    So wonderful to have found a site where other pet parents of CHF pups can exchange tips, info, and comfort when that date with the inevitable rainbow bridge inevitably comes… My 13 y.o. terrier mix Aida (15 lbs) was diagnosed with Stage 3 murmur/enlargement about 2 years ago and had been stable on low sodium diet and Enalapril until late November. Now I can’t seem to get her coughing (intermittent) under control despite high doses of Lasix & Spirolactone. She was prescribed & will go on Pimobendan as soon as it arrives, so I am hopeful. Was searching for home/natural remedies while I wait for the package, and stumbled upon Allison’s list of supplements. Allison It would be fantastic if you see this post and could list the quantities of each supplement that you gave your 10 lb maltese Chase and how often! I printed out your list and and went shopping, but only human suggested dosages are given. Thanks!

  • Janice says:

    I have a 13 year chocolate cocker spaniel. Gibson was diagnosed about two years ago. Our vet is a good friend so I am very fortunate to have his ear whenever I want. The cough has changed in the last few weeks and I think he is having some trouble with his breathing. It breaks my heart to think that his time with me is coming to an end. We are going away for a week and I just don’t know if I should leave him with our sitter. She lives in our home to take care of him when we are away. I don’t know if it is fair to her. My gut tells me that we should help him to go to sleep. So hard to make this decision. . He is on all the meds that everyone has mentioned. He is still eating and does not leave my side. I sure do not want to end his life sooner than I have to.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Janice,

      I think you should go away as planned and just give your pet sitter a little extra for taking good care of Gibson. I really believe if any thing happens while your gone it is because Gibson has decided that leaving then would be easier on him and you. He surely must know how this is stressing you out. Have faith things will happen as they are suppose to happen. Blessings to you and Gibson.

      • Janice says:

        Our doctor changed some dosage of meds and coughing is much better today. He added Vetmedin. We still have 10 days before we leave so I’m hoping I will have an idea how this new med is working. I can’t tell you how much this website has helped me. Thank you. God is working through you to help others with this health issue that we share with our beloved pets. Merry Christmas to you. I will keep you posted on our baby.

        • Sue Huss says:

          Thank you Janice for your kind words. I never expected so much of a response from my post. I hope your right and it has helped others. Try not to worry too much about Gibson on your trip. Happy New Year to you too.

  • Heidi Smith says:

    Hello! I just have to chime in on how crucial the right diet is. My Renny, a 13 year old Papillion was diagnosed with CHF and a significant murmur in November 2013. He was very lethargic, listless. He only wanted to be held and kept his head on my shoulder. I felt such distress. My lively, fun-loving little man was no more.

    After being on vetmedin and lisinopril for a full month he had made no improvement as the vet thought he would. However, after I started him on a raw food diet he began coming back alive! After just three days I saw a difference. After a week he was no longer listless. By the end of a month he was hopping around like a little bunny, eyes shiny and dancing! In fact, his energy level has been so high for the last year that he’s forever getting “romantic” with my female Papillion or a pillow, lol. He hadn’t been like that in years! And yes, they were both altered when young.

    But get this . . . the vet says it’s not the food! Insanity and denial! I saw his partner one day for Renny’s checkup and they readily agreed it was the diet change “it must be.”

    Note the precursor to treatment with herbs, cayenne and hydrotherapy. . . they MUST be on a raw food diet to for this to be effective!

    Best wishes!


    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m glad your Renny is doing better although I feel a raw food diet is very controversial. Both my vets, a regular vet and a naturopathic vet I visit do not recommend it. I do believe real food such as organic meat cooked along with vegetables in a proper balance with supplements and probiotics can also help extend life. I can’t help but wonder what kind of food were you feeding Renny before you changed diets. Was it a product with by-products?

  • Carol says:

    Hi everyone. I need advice. Our little boy is a 12 year old miniature dachshund was diagnosed with an enlarged heart with fluid surrounding it. No heart murmur found. I took him to the vet right before thanksgiving because his breathing was snore like loud and he was throwing up white thick foam. Vet put him on lastix and Vetmedin. Vet thought we would see a huge improvement within a week. Nope. Took Spud back to vet increased lastix and in addition to the vetmedin but him on another heart pill. Enalapril. Spud kept getting sicker and sicker. He was not keeping them in and appeared to make him sicker then he was before. No coughing but stopped eating and lost another 2 pounds in that month between thanksgiving the Christmas. He is at 8 pounds. He used to be a chunk. Took him back into vet again and they put him on Mirtazapine, which increases his appetite, shot him up with vit B did IV fluids. If it were not for that pill Spud would not still be here today. Vet said on Monday Jan 5th that Spud was on a very slippery slope and he would either respond to the meds this week…. Or not. I was sure Spud was going to die Tuesday. He was so weak not eating or drinking. We continued the IV at home for another day but that was not going so well. Long story short. Spud will eat on his own now and drink but he throws up a lot. And the times when he is throwing up the white phelmy foam I think he is going to choke to death. If I could get this white foam stuff under control I might have a chance. My week is not up yet. Any suggestions and prayers would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Carol, I’m so sorry for what you are going through. I know vomiting white foam can be the result of so many things,what did your vet say it was from? As far as Spud not eating I can tell you my other Pomeranian all of the sudden became a very picky eater and would hardly eat even though I cook regular food for them. I found out that they make a product which is a high calorie booster gel. You can squeeze some on your finger and at least know that he is getting enough calories. I think it also is a appetite stimulant because several times when I used it my Pomeranian would decide to eat her food. Can you give him water in a syringe. Has your vet done any tests on him to figure out why he is vomiting the foam all the time?
      I’ve cared for a daschund for the last 5 years who has megaesophagus and her symptoms are so similar. Whenever she would drink too much she would vomit white foam.
      If it is by chance the same condition it is under control with steroids and the dog must eat in a upright position. I would hold her bowl up when she would eat so she would be leaning her two front paws on my leg. Please seek another vet if Spud is not helped.
      Let us know. Our prayers are with you.

    • christal says:

      Hello carol,
      I was drawn to your posts because it reminded me of myself just a few weeks ago..2 months ago I took my 5 year old Chihuahua to the vet because she kept making a awful sound like she had to cough somthing up..she had no interest in playing and just seem sick..first vet said allergies and this was the same vet since she was born after a month i wasnt happy with the way she was doing decided another vet and this time the awful news CHF ..within a few days rushed to vet she wasnt acting right and was told the same as you..increase meds and see how would react but it would only be a temp fix and she would never get better…the selfish part of me was willing to do whatever to keep her alive…medication every 4 hours…had to tear food into tiny pieces and feed her or it would get stuck and she would end up choking and would also have the foam problem real bad..lost so much weight she weighed 3 lbs healthy and drop to 1 1/2..I thought we had finaly got her stable and even made a comment to a friend how she was improving when that night it all changed and in the end my molly had passed..if anything i.wish i knew then what i know now..it was the most horrible thing to go through it wasnt like they just go to sleep..i wish i would have not been selfish and try to hold on..and also would have been better prepared for what comes after..i hope your baby takes to the medicine but remember they never get better they just maintain once diagnosed..

      • Sue Huss says:

        I think everyone including myself just thinks if they can just find the right supplement or the right diet even the right vet our babies will be cured when sometimes it’s just their time to leave us. We need the strength to let them go.

  • Amy Greer says:

    Hi again everyone,
    I wrote after my Chihuahua Priscilla passed from CHF in May. I have since adopted a Chihuahua (Roxy) from a local shelter. Just my luck she also has Tracheal collapse, as my Priscilla did, along with a slightly enlarged heart. I had Xrays done. Vet didn’t think it warranted meds yet but I’m not so sure & am getting very concerned. She coughs a lot, more so than my Priscilla did. Priscilla used to have the honking, loud cough from the Tracheal collapse. Roxy does that sometimes but she also coughs daily, a slight, dry, hacking kind of cough, usually a light cough. It’s similar to what my other dog Brady does, whom has a stage 2 murmur. Sometimes she’ll have a day where she has coughing spells several times a day & others it’s just a few times, but rarely does she have a day with no coughing. This is very bothersome to me & I’m going to bringing her back to the vet. Actually I’m looking into a holistic vet. My question to all of you is, do you have any suggestions for supplements? Also, are there a lot of side effects from heart meds? I don’t want to give her something that will cause more problems. On the other hand I don’t want to wait & not have her on anything only for her to end up with her lungs filled with fluid. That’s what happened to my precious Priscilla. I would’ve given anything to have known sooner & had the chance to help her. I miss my baby girl so much. ):
    I currently give Roxy CoQ10 daily, Niacinamide for blood flow & fish oil. She seems to have poor blood circulation & occasionally gets black crusty spots form on her ear tips. From my research & the vets input I’ve gathered it’s likely Eartip Vasculitis. So the Niacinamide helps. I also put coconut oil on it when she has a flare up.
    Any advice you can offer is greatly appreciated.
    I also need to have her teeth cleaned but am a bit concerned about general anesthesia. Her teeth are pretty brown & it’s apparent they weren’t taken care of. So they should be done.
    Thanks for listening guys.

    • Amy Greer says:

      I forgot to mention… Roxy also vomits foam sometimes too. Wretches, then just foam comes out & some liquid. I noticed it happens less when she eats more frequently & I make a point of giving her a couple treats first thing when I get up before her breakfast.

      • Sue Huss says:

        That is interesting vomiting foam is what the last comment was about. I wonder how many others experience this problem. Perhaps if anyone has had this problem and what they did to help it will please leave us a comment it would be greatly appreciated.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Amy,
      It seems you are giving Priscilla quite a few supplements already. I think finding a naturalpathic vet to give you suggestions on what supplements might help Roxy is really a good idea. Depending where you live this can be a problem finding one. I personally travel 50 minutes to the naturalpathic vet I see. Of course I have a close vet to me also whom I usually go to first.
      I understand your concern about cleaning Roxy’s teeth, my vet could not clean my Precious’s teeth because of the anesthesia and her having CHF but somehow he was able to clean them a little without putting her to sleep. I don’t know if that would work with all dogs she had an exceptional temperament. While I’m not a big fan of the product they do make a product you put in dogs water that is suppose eliminate plaque and tarter. Hope this helps a little. Good luck and please keep us informed on what you discover about supplements.

      • Amy Greer says:

        We just got back from the vets. The xrays showed she actually does NOT have tracheal collapse, as formerly thought. Her heart is enlarged so vet believes it is her heart condition that’s causing the coughing. Darn it! I have to have an ultrasound done now to find out exactly what’s going on. Then we can see what, if any, meds she needs. I just hope & pray it’s not real bad & can be treated at least enough to extend her life & give her comfort. I’ve only had her 6 months & am already so attached to her. She is VERY attached to me. Loves me dearly, follows me everywhere, always in my lap. My devoted little companion. She really helped me a lot after I lost my Priscilla. I miss Priscilla daily & still beat myself up over not having all these tests done with her. Perhaps I could’ve prevented her death. Maybe she’d still be with me.
        The comment you made Sue really helps, although painful to think about. You said “I choose to believe our baby’s leave us to make room for a new pet that needs us.”
        Had Priscilla not passed when she did I wouldn’t have been looking for another baby & wouldn’t have found Roxy. Roxy had been in the shelter 2 wks. & shelter was full. This is a shelter in MD that has a very high euthanasia rate. The animal rescue I work with takes dogs from there. Roxy was an owner surrender so she could’ve been put down at any time. Plus she no applications on her. Also, I can’t help but think if someone else adopted her, with her condition & fears/separation anxiety/behavior issues, they would likely have brought her back. Which means she may have been put down. Soooo…. it probably worked out the way it was supposed. Roxy was meant to be with me. Although I can’t help but feel it’s unfair I adopted a dog that has the same issue my dog had I just lost. ): How bad does that suck? I want to get another Chihuahua, from a wonderful breeder I know in Maine, but feel a bit guilty about it. That’s the reason I adopted rather than buying. I work in rescue. It didn’t seem right or ethical to buy when there’s all these dogs in shelters. However, when you adopt from a shelter you don’t know what you’re getting & it can be very costly, emotionally & monetarily. I want a dog, a puppy, that I get the right way this time. From a great breeder, with show quality dogs, a health guarantee, been tested for genetic conditions, the parents have been tested, decades back. I feel guilty a bit as it seems like I’m saying “this dog is defective, I’m going to get a better one.”
        There’s no way I’ll give up on Roxy. I will love her, treat her, give her the absolute best care & life I can. But after what I just went through & am now going through with Roxy I feel a bit cheated. Priscilla was only 10 when she died. I thought I’d have her until she was at least 15. Chihuahuas are the longest lived breed, usually. Also, Roxy has NOT bonded with my pitbull Brady. My Priscilla was VERY close to him. They were buddies. She slept on his back. Roxy tolerates him, but will never snuggle with him. Brady misses Priscilla. I think Brady & I both need a baby, we can raise that will bond with both of us. (:
        Thanks for listening.
        I have the ultrasound scheduled for Roxy Tues. the 20th. Please keep us in your prayers. I am so worried about her. Trying to be strong. Spending me time looking for a part time job to help with the bills. Thank God for Care Credit.
        I’ll update with the ultrasound results.
        Blessings to you all. Stay strong. I’m so glad we have this site & the support. Thank u Sue

        • Sue Huss says:

          Hi Amy, I glad anything I said could help you. I often wonder why I ended up adopting another Pomeranian with so many problems also. I’ve been calling her my little lemon. I guess we took such good care of our last baby the universe decided we would be a good pet parent to care for the one we now have.
          I’m convinced the new puppy you are meant to have is still in the future. You just have to help Roxy first have the best life with you.
          Don’t feel guilty about wanting a healthy dog caring for a sick dog with CHF or some other serious condition is extremely stressfull as we all know here. I hope the ultrasound goes well. Let us know.
          Blessings to you and Roxy.

  • Carol says:

    Thank u for getting back to me Sue. Vet said from the x rays it is CHF and his foam is a result of complications that comes with that. Liquid pooling around his heart. But I don’t hear alot of people on here complaining that this foam thing is a huge problem for them. Vet did not hear a murmur. Most CHF seems they do. Spud has had a world of health issues sence he was a baby. Nothing life threatening really. He has had 2 breast reductions fatty cysts and a toe removed and teeth pulled many times and eye problems. He’s a piebald with blue eyes. I will research what u said about megaesophagus. Spud just ate a decent dinner and do far is keeping it in. We have to time when he can have water or he looses everything. I’ll get some of that gel too. Thank God… And thank u. This is the second vet we have gone too. First one said he is 12 and life span is about 12.3 but if we wanted him too he would run a battery of tests and go from there. We ran to another vet. Thank u for having this site so we can help each other with our furry best friends.

    • Sue Huss says:

      I too have never heard of that problem but your vet should know especially since he took
      x-rays. Perhaps people reading this who have also experienced this issue could drop you a line. I would of ran to another vet also. Why would he say Spu is 12 and his lifespan is 12.3 implying you are just wasting your time. This comment makes me want to scream. Keep in touch.

    • Laurel says:

      Hi Carol,

      I am sorry you are having such a difficult time and am sending you support and love for your furry one.

      Are you seeing a veterinary cardiologist?

      I had to put my Sophia down 6 months ago from CHF, but the veterinary cardiologist made all the difference in her quality of life and care, especially during the last year.


  • Carol says:

    Hi Laurel, can u tell me what the Cardiolost did to help your baby? And if u don’t mind me asking….when did u know enough was enough. I don’t know how much to put him through.
    Thanks for your support.

    • Laurel says:

      I don’t mind responding, Carol. I was so grateful for the support I felt in just reading the site when I first found it, with tears streaming, many months ago. It is a gift to have the support of others who care and understand.

      I posted here on June 29, 2014 and again on July 4th. If you scroll upwards you can easily find those posts and they may answer more of your questions.

      Had I not had Sophia treated by the cardiologist, however, I doubt I would have had her for that entire last year.

      About five months after she was diagnosed I nearly lost her. The cardiologist not only saved her, she was hospitalized in an oxygen tent, but she was able to stabilize her medications so that her symptoms were managed well and she was once again my “happy girl.”

      The extensive training they have was evident to me, and it definitely impacted Sophia’s quality of life, as well as prolonged her life. It was worth every visit, every penny.

      I do not know exactly how I knew “when” it was time, but I knew. Just trust in yourself and you will know.

      All the Best Wishes,


  • Carol says:

    Hey Laurel I thought more about my question about how did u know. You do not need to answer that. That’s personal. I did a bunch more research and have a better idea about that. I’m sorry I asked. But if u can share what the Cardiolost did to help I’d be grateful..

    Thank you so much

  • Shannon says:

    Carol, don’t apologize. You were just looking for support and comfort. I think it’s a personal thing as in.. you know your dog like no one else does.
    I wish you and your pup the best. And always remember.. you will meet again!

  • Janice says:

    Vetmedin has made a huge difference in our cocker spaniel. We were so close to putting him down. Our doctor asked us to try this. His coughing has stopped totally and he is so much more energetic. I know this is not a cure but it sure is wonderful to have our baby back.

  • brandi says:

    Hello all,

    I would just like to start by saying I have spent all morning/afternoon reading every single post here trying to take in all the advice that has been shared for a pet with CHF.

    I had 2 yorkies however my female passed away unexpededly at the end of November. She was completely fine the day before and fine when I left for work, but when my husband woke up (he was off that day) he found her curled up not breathing. I say she was fine but she would sometimes cough when she tried to bark and had become very lethargic, got cold often, but I never thought anything of it because she was just so little but looking back I’m sure it was her heart.

    A week after she passed, my other yorkie, her brother, started acting really lethargic and his breathing was at like 50 breaths per minute. He did eat a cupcake wrapper the afternoon it started happening so I figured it was that and when I got him home that night he threw it up but his breathing never got better. Monday I took him to the vet and the vet thought it may be CHF and prescribed Lasix, however I didn’t give it to him that night, thinking we would start it in the morning at by 5 a.m. he had severely labored breathing. Rushed him back to the vet Tuesday morning and the vet was sure we were losing him, put him on a lasix IV and 15 minutes later his breathing was much improved. We then put him on medication for bronchitis and pnemonia just in case and kept him on lasix.

    After Christmas we got a second opinion and decided to have him checked out by a cardiologist and he got an echocardiogram done. The cardiologist said he couldn’t find any major heart problems aside from a level 3 heart murmur but instead thought it was an airway disease and took him off of lasix, put him on theopoline and some other meds. After 4 days of this (this past Friday)his breathing took a turn for the worse and I started giving him the lasix, took him in for a lasix shot and we got his breathing back to normal.

    My vet called the cardiologist that afternoon to say she feel like he missed something and spoke to him along with his collegue and upon review they both believed he could have a torn chordae tendineae and put him on Vetmedin. I started the Vetmedin Friday night and his breathing is the best I have seen it since early December and he finally does not look uncomfortable when he sleeps. However, it has caused him to be extremely sleepy and lose his appiteite however he did take quite a bit of boiled chicken for me today.

    I’m pleased with his breathing on the Vetmedin however he is so lifeless I wonder if it is worth it if it is just going to make him a walking zombie? Does it get better after his system adjusts to it?

    I am also heading to the grocery store to pick up meats, brown rice, vegetables so I can try to get him to eat tonight.

    Anyone have any supplements I should give to him? So far from reading this fish oil has really stood out. He is only going to be 9 in May, I’m not ready to let go and aside from elevated breathing and a little less active he has not had any other crazy symptoms.

    Any help or support is greatly appreciated, this is such a scary and stressful road to go down especially after having lost my little girl so recently :(

  • Sarah says:

    Hi. I’ve just read all the comments and its so good to hear everyone’s stories and the support offered.
    Almost 4 years ago I had to make the heart breaking decision to say goodbye to my beloved Springer spaniel Dexter. He had battled with CHF for 18 months after being given a prognosis of 6 weeks. It is so true that you know when the time is right to say goodbye and he sure as hell put up a fight!
    I’m gutted to say that my Springer bitch is now displaying the same early symptoms. You’d think it would be easy to take her to the vet seeing as I’ve been here before…..but I’m terrified! She is such a lively girl for 12 and, having rescued her from horrific conditions at 2, I know that we have given her a wonderful life; but it doesn’t make it any easier.
    Strangely though, having written this down, I now feel better. Thank you for sharing all your stories. Remember fondly those pups who have passed on and treasure those still with us. X

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Sarah, thanks for sharing your story. I’m sorry you have to go through this so soon again. I think there are so many pet owners including myself who find themselves caring for another pet requiring extra care because of their many problems. My newest Pomeranian that I rescued after Precious died has been to the vet so many times with different issues, I have started calling her fondly my little lemon. I often wonder why so many dogs are developing CHF among other things. I can tell you dogs I had back in my 20’s (that was 40 years ago) always seemed to die of old age. My Pomeranian I had back then lived to be 17 and was never sick. Oh well, sorry for going off on a tangent but I guess it helps me also to express my thoughts. Blessings to you and your Springer.

  • Annette H. says:

    LESSON LEARNED (the hard way)- Be careful giving your CHF dog a bath! Mine has been stable on Pimobendan & Enalipril, with Lasix 2-3 times per week as needed. The day before yesterday, she got into something “unmentionable” in the back yard and I promptly put her in the sink to bathe. The water was on the warm side, but not hot, and she became lethargic during the bathing – conscious, but almost so relaxed I had to hold her upright. Looking back I realize this was hypotension from blood vessels dilating in response to the warm water. I towel dried her immediately, but the damage was done – despite double doses of Lasix, she is having coughing spells that can last an hour or more several times per day. Hoping I can get her re-stabilized soon – it is such a fine line to cross into decompensation!

  • Carol says:

    Good morning fellow dog lovers. First time I posted was jan 11. My lil Spud is still amongst the living. We took him off all meds. He was getting so sick and loosing so much weight. He threw up all the pills anyway. He rallied for about a week eating on his own and even kind of begging. Well that has not lasted. I have cooked him everything under the sun to get him to eat. Sometimes I can get life cereal, Chinese food,and beef soup in him. The white foam has stopped. Now if I’m not right by his side he well throw up everything I worked so hard to get in him. Here is a strange thing I have been doing. When he starts to gag I put two fingers on the side of his neck and apply a small amount pressure. It seems to stop the progression of the gag and then I can feel the gurgle as it goes back down. So after he eats I hold him on my chest in a upright position ready to stop the gag. I know this is all temporary. I know he will not be healthy again. We are a hospice house right now. Spud does not seem to be in pain but I know he does not feel well. But the wag in his tail keeps my Husband in denial. He feels very strongly to have him pass on his own. I do not feel the same way….but for now doing it his way. Just sharing if it helps anyone out there. Love to all.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Carol, I’m glad you have figured a way to help Spud keep his food down. If he has been loosing weight you might consider what I mentioned to previous pet lover. Get some of that high calorie supplement that you only need a little and hopefully he can at least stop loosing weight.

  • Pat says:

    I have just come across this website and glad I am not alone. Our Maggie, 12 yrs old Mini Schnauzer just was diagnosed with CHF, severe heart disease, Enlarged heart, stage 5 of heart Murmur. On Heart meds, lasix that makes her pee like a horse! Don’t know how long she has with us but being that bad off I am preparing myself for the worse……Which frighten’s me & and my hubby.
    in Diapers but really don’t work if she has to pee so much. However, we now are taking her out about every 3 hours. She is stable and responding to meds so far. Hard to keep a Schnauzer quiet as she is supposed to but she does get tired. Our only problem is leaving her in the crate all day when we are at work as we are trying to come up with a solution for her bedding in the crate. Come home everyday this week to her bed being soaked, washing it every day but don’t mind the washing just don’t like her sitting in her wet bed. We don’t leave a diaper on her in crate because why bother. Looking at elevated beds online that lets to pee go to the bottom of crate and away from her skin. But then there is no room for water bowl. Thought of a water bottle like puppies would use but would she get enough water from that? Any suggestions in for the crate? Wonder if I should ask the Vet if she has any other suggestions for lasix? I read early on in the posts about someone reducing the amount of Lasix? I know she just started the meds since the last weekend and the Vet at Emergency says we should give it some time.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat,
      How about using a really large crate like one for large dogs and having her bed in one half of it and the half could be where she pees. Maybe you could use pee pads. There would be room for water also. Use a small bed in crate not blankets that could be dragged to other side. I don’t think she would pee in her bed if she had room to pee outside of it. Hope this is helpful.

      • Pat says:

        Sue, Thanks for your advice. We do have a large crate but not enough room for a bed, pee pad & water bowl. However, the very next size up I will have to see. Then maybe I could put a small bed not blanket and would have more room? Have to go do some measurements again. When she was in the oxygen chamber it was bigger than her crate and they had bedding on one side & pee pad on other. Thanks so much!

  • Pat says:

    It’s me again. We are trying out a bigger crate as you suggested Sue. we will see how that works. However, over the weekend maggie developed a rash starting on her back. She is a White Schnauzer and you can see her skin being even more pink too. On the heart meds and lasix. Wonder if the meds are giving her a rash? She is going to the Vet today as my hubby is taking her. So, we shall see. Maggie has been waking up more because she is uncomfortable besides having to pee more. Wonder if we should put her in the crate with her pee pad at night without the diaper. Only thing is our other dog Molly might want to go on it too and make her think she can go potty in her crate. Right now they both sleep in the bed with us. Might just have to resort to Maggie being crated at night so we can all sleep. It has been very stressful. I hope the Vet today has some ideas for us and help her with her rash.

  • Pat says:

    Better news…..Our Maggie has a slight reaction to meds that could cause her skin to look so pink as the blood is pumping in her heart really well with help of meds. Vet said that it could be her body just adjusting to it all and prescribed her with some Dog Antihistamine & she had wax build up in her ear they cleaned out. So, she sleep better last night and so did we!

    • Sue Huss says:

      I’m glad you guys are getting some rest now. Blessings to both of you.

      • Pat says:

        Thank you Sue. Maggie is stable with the meds but sometimes she is restless at night when we are sleeping or jumps down from bed to drink water so I am not getting proper sleep as every time she moves i wake up. And I am a heavy sleeper. Must be the Doggie mommy in me:)

        • Sue Huss says:

          At least she is able to get up and drink her water by herself. My Pomeranian was too small to jump up or down on my bed so in the middle of the night she would wake up and get right next to your face and stare. You know that feeling when someone is staring at you. I would have to reach down and get her water dish so she could drink and then she would let me go back to sleep. Either way neither of us gets much sleep right?

    • Lisa says:

      All of these posts are so wonderful and helpful. We adopted Molly a cocker spaniel from the shelter in December. It took us a week to figure out she was deaf because she is so loving. Her teeth were super horrible so we took her to get them cleaned and they had to pull 14 of them! Shortly after that visit We found a vet we wanted to use for our normal vet and they diagnosed her as having a slight heart murmur guessed her age to be around 10 years old. She had zero symptoms this whole time. A couple of weeks later I noticed Molly breathing really fast and coughing after drinking some. Took her back to vet and they diagnosed her as stage 4 heart murmur and CHF. They put her on lasix once per day and promised to send me results of all the tests the put her through. Well after a week we still hadn’t gotten any results and Molly had another respiratory distress episode so we took her to the emergency vet and they were so much better! They put Molly on Vetmedin and Enalipril along with increasing her Lasix. My first vet finally sent us her results along with two other patients test results. We fired that vet and made the emergency vet our primary. Molly has her good days and bad days now. She seems to be somewhat incontinent when she sleeps. We had her on Science Diet for small dogs – dry, and then tried her on a cheaper food and she started having lots of coughing, vomit,lethargy and breathing distress. I did some research and noticed some mention of low sodium diet helping. I found a list on a vet school website that had Science Diet sensitive skin/stomach as one of the lowest sodium dry commercial foods available. The difference was almost immediate! Molly is so good about taking her pills that we just throw them in her dog food and she gobbles them up. If she misses one of the tiny lasix pills I usually put a small smear of peanut butter in her bowl and stick the pill in it. I firmly believe that all this CHF problems started with the anesthesia and teeth cleaning when we first got her. And I also believe that finding her new vet has changed her life. Sorry for the book but I wanted to share in hopes it can help someone like the posts above helped me.

  • Donna Fox says:

    My dog max is a brindle pit bull and eight years old. He has always been there for me now it is my turn. As I write this he has been diagnosed with CHF in october 2014. He is on vetmedin, 2 diareutics, and another pill twice a day. He coughs some and is doing well but he has had to be drained twice the prescription dog food is for heart and is 70 a bag but seems to help keep usm in your prays as I will your alls.

  • Pat says:

    So Maggie has to be taken out 2-3 times during the night to pee. We have to set the alarm and take turns. It has affected my sleep as not getting my proper sleep time. I could try putting the dogs in their crate at night and let her pee on pee pads and / or her bed as she sometimes leaks on her bed. But the two dogs have always been in the bed with us and afraid Maggie would get stressed out causing a heart attack. I about fall asleep going to work today too! Any suggestions for at night?

    • claudette says:

      I know about losing sleep due to the lasix!My Misty sleeps with me and in bed I use the washable baby water proof blankets.She hated the plastic disposable ones,and will only use them if they are on the floor.Hope this helps.Its so hard at times,but everyday I have left with her is a blessing.God bless you and hang in there.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat,
      I understand more than you know about doing the best for your Maggie, but you have to think about your health also. Without you where would Maggie be? Can you put a crate in your bedroom right next to your bed so they can see you. I think if they have each other Maggie will not be so stressed out that you have to worry any more than you already are doing. They may cry at first because they are used to sleeping in your bed, but you have to be strong and just tell them “it’s ok just go to sleep”. I promise you this has worked more than a few times for me. I’ve been a pet sitter for 12 years and many pets I watch for several days are used to sleeping with their owner. Naturally they want to sleep with me in my bed but it is already filled to capacity with my 3 dogs. So I put a dog bed next to my bed and just keep telling them to get in their bed. It may take a lot of patience the first night because they are used to getting their own way but I promise you the second day it will be much easier. I hope this helps you. Blessings to you and Maggie.

      • Pat says:

        Sue, I appreciate you caring and for my health too! I think I am going to give something like that a try and see if it works for her. I have too big of a crate to put next to the bed as we got a bigger one to put her pee pads in. She wets those but sometimes or most times leaks onto her bed too in crate when we leave her there during the day when we are at work. But the crates are in our bedroom so maybe her knowing were are there steps away in front of the bed and maybeshe will get use to it. Blessing right back at you!

  • Pat says:

    Well, the dog crate thing did not last. We caved in last night and let the two dogs back in the bed with us as they were stressing licking an scratching making too much noise stressing us out. So, now we leave Maggie with diaper on and if she gets up with wet diaper during night I am just going to change it like a baby and have her come back to sleep instead of taking her outside. They were so happy to be back in the bed with us last night she only got up once.

    • Sue Huss says:

      Hi Pat, sorry that did not work for you. I am happy to hear it has been a little easier on you. If the diaper works for you that’s great, do you use pads inside of diaper like human female menstrual products. That could keep her dryer longer.

  • Pat says:

    Maggie is sleeping better in the bed with us. But have noticed she is sleeping more & tired more. Think that is sign of getting worse?

  • Nate says:

    Well at 12:30 today I have to take my 11 year old Boston Terrier to the vet to see what we can do. About two months ago he was diagnosed with CHF. He’s on all the similar medicines spoken of above. I took him to our vet to board for the weekend and got him back in bad shape. He was fine when I took him there, but when I picked him up he was very frail. They promised me they had given him his medicine as I required them to. He’s just not doing well now. I am afraid of what’s to come at 12:30. Everyone here understands the best friend factor. That’s exactly what he has been for me. We’ve been through a lot together. I was hoping he would make it to see my first born child, but that isn’t looking likely. Sounds silly, but he is like a brother. I don’t like seeing him suffer like this and don’t want to be selfish. I hope there is something they will tell me they can do to get him through a little longer. Need some prayers and I appreciate the thread.

    • Shannon says:

      Awe.. maybe he was just stressed at the vets over the weekend. Hopefully they can adjust his meds and he will get back on track. Don’t give up hope.
      It’s not silly at all to think of him as a brother. They are family 100%… my boys are my babies!
      My little one with CHF came to me at 9 years old in bad shape. We just celebrated his 11th bday in Feb. You never know what will happen so try to stay positive and he will feel that positivity. Prayers for him!

    • Sue Huss says:

      Don’t worry Nate I’m sure your Boston Terrier can meet your first born child on the other side and perhaps he can then help watch over your first born child when he is born.
      Maybe instead of an imaginary friend your son will grow to have an imaginary dog friend.
      Blessings to both of you.

  • Nate says:

    Sue and Shannon,
    Thanks for your kind comments. Well I wish I had some positive new, but I have lost my best friend today. It’s still really fresh. Pretty much a hot mess typing this right now. It was like he was waiting on me to show up to pass. My wife and I went to take him to the vet and put him in the passenger seat of my wives car. We had to take separate cars due to my work. I get in my car and my wife starts yelling that he has all the sudden passed out and she thought he was gone. I gave him CPR and he came back shortly. On the way again trying to get him to the vet he passed. I know this was what was meant to happen. I was just not ready to lose my best bud. Been through a lot together in 11 years. I hate that we lose them so soon. I have one more boston and a pug. The pug is 9 and the other boston is 4. The pug and my boston that just passed were never apart for those 9 years. It breaks my heart that my pug has lost her partner in life. She still has the four year old, but those two had a bond like I’ve never seen before between animals. I appreciate finding this thread that I could vent on.

    • Shannon says:

      Awe. I am so sorry to hear this. I believe fully that we will meet them again on the other side. He is still with you.. just in a different way.
      He was loved and had a great life with you and your family I am sure so just remember that.
      RIP little buddy…. until you meet again. I will ask my dogs on the other side to show him around at the Rainbow bridge.

      Rainbow Bridge

      Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
      When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

      All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
      They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

      You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

      Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together….

    • Patty says:

      I am so sorry to hear this of your beloved pet. At least he did not suffer a long drawn out thing but the sudden of it is hard. I am sure your Boston terrier is pain free and playing with other pets on that Rainbow bridge. As much as it would hurt I hope when my schnauzer Maggie’s time is up she goes quickly. My prayers are with you on your loss.

    • claudette says:

      Update on Misty.We said good bye to our precious on March 17th.It was one if the hardest things I have ever had to do but my dear little dog was beginning to suffer,and her meds were no longer working for her cough and she wasn’t eating enough to give them to her on the final days.My heart goes out to each and everyone of you going through this terrible disease with your furry loved ones.I miss my dear little dog so much,there are still times I look in her chair to see if she’s still there.Its been a very rough couple weeks,and I still tear up(as I am now) whenever I talk about her.She was 15 years 7months old and when diagnosed was given 2 months with medication,no more than a year.She showed them,she went past the year and totally amazed the vet on how strong she was.The last few days of her life she still walked down the stairs to go outside.She would not let me carry her,but I knew it was time.Its almost like she was saying she had enough.Our vet was exceptional and made the process so much more bearable for all of us.I have locks of her hair done for a keepsake and for our other 2 pets to have closure.We also have her paw prints done for a walking stone in our garden.This site was a godsend for me the past year and I hope each person who avails of this site will find the comfort I found the first night I stumbled upon it.God bless you all for loving your pets as you do.

    • My heart goes out to you and your wife. The very same thing happened to me & my husband with our tiny maltese “Dusti” last October. I have her sister, she has seemed to have gone down hill since. We both miss her still so much. I wouldn’t trade the world for all of the love and happiness that Dusti brought into our lives. That’s what makes it all worth while. ;) Bless you.

  • Shar says:

    I am so glad to have found your post(s). My heart goes out to all of you and your babies. My 11 year old Shih Tzu was diagnosed with a heart murmur last year, a level 3. No meds right away. But then she started “fainting” in her sleep, I’d be awoken with her scream and then she’d urinate and be laying on her side like she was gone. I could wake her up by rolling her over. Then she was ok, like nothing happened. I told the vet of this and thats when she got on Lasix (furosemide) and Enalapril. So far, no more night fainting (that happened 4 times in 6 months) and only once after the pills. She’s doing well as she can be, however she does cough. Especially after exertion. She vomits liquids up periodically. When that happens I don’t know whether to give her her meds or not. But I always do give her meds unless she absolutely cannot keep them down. Her blood tests come back perfectly normal so the pills are not affecting her adversely. Do any of your pups vomit up liquid? Also my girls appetite was never great but now it’s even less. Unless of course it’s for treats. :-) I’ve begun cooking chicken breasts for my dogs. One of my dogs without heart problems eats the chicken plus dog food, however my heart problem girl just eats a little of the chicken most days, but some days refuses. My vet has never said she has CHF either, but all symptoms point to that. Vet just said Heart Murmur. Other than all this she is as active as she needs to be, happy, barks at passerby and neighbor dogs, and plays.

    • Shannon says:

      Hi Shar,

      My baby was fainting with exertion but there was no screams or urination with it… that sounds so scary. Poor her and poor you!! (My boy was diagnosed with CHF due to Heartworm almost 2 years ago. He was just supposed to be a foster for a few days for me but I couldn’t let him go knowing how sick he was/could get…so almost 2 years later he is still with me!)
      He does vomit sometimes, but I switched his food to a balanced “home cooked” diet (Canine Life Muffins) and he vomits much less now. I would definitely speak to your vet about the not eating/decrease in appetite.. maybe her tummy is upset with the meds and there is something that can be done to help that. If you continue to cook for her she will need more than just chicken or she will lack the vitamins and nutrients she needs to be as healthy as can be.

      Good luck with everything!

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